Suddenly we're concerned about lying.

Ring me up when those with a case of the vapors reach 30,000 President Biden reversals lies like Oranganus.

Like the Casper Milquetoast Senator from Maine, when the total reaches 30,000 I’ll be concerned.

They can pound sand.

This is another mistake from those who are Dems who are afraid of their own shadows. No one who's a regular person, non-DC insider, cares about PJB pardoning his son.

It's like when Al Gore was all worried about B. Clinton's impeachment and went with Joe Lieberman as his VP candidate. Literally *no one* who wasn't an insider cared! Certainly not any serious Dems. And Gore had to deal with that JL albatross who ended up being no friend to Democrats. The election was stolen from Gore but my point stands.

These concern troll Democrats can pound sand (as City Lights said). HB was railroaded and no one cares if he is forgiven for his 'crimes.' Meanwhile in the cabinet nominee group we can call Felon's Row...

Let's get on with important matters rather than feeding the beltway drama queens and "DC mean girls/boys." F--k *all* of those douches. They're the problem.

Trying to claim there is any comparison between what was done to Hunter and what was done to Trump.

If we can't claim there's a difference between prosecuting someone more harshly because of politics (HB) and prosecuting someone who actually committed dangerous crimes then there will be more innocent Democrats going to jail witih felonious Republicans being set free.

I'm not saying we can stop this from happeneing, but speaking out against it is a start.

Enough of this hand wringing bullshit.

Presidential pardons always raise eyebrows. But the nature of how Republicans went after Hunter to get to Joe made this necessary.

Precedent really that ships all ready left the port. Get over it, Biden finally showed some real balls, I was thinking he would wait till Jan 5th you know what Im saying. This could be a good sign of things to come, just kidding. What about the rest of us? You know Trump Shits his pants is going to do a blast of adderol and pardon the fascists. Jared Polis is still using X that speaks for its self

Covering anything from December 2 to January 5--cut them off at the pass.

synonym for courage?

in my opinion couldn't be trusted to keep Hunter Biden safe, if he had went to prison. President Biden has every right to protect him.

In fact they will probably be trump's hitmen against us, just like they were to Hunter.

Link to tweet

the USSC just expanded it!!!

constitutional convention.

I suppose Congress could write a law forbidding a president from pardoning himself, but all that would do is make the Supreme Court decide the issue before Trump brings it up.

But can this man's head be THIS far in the clouds???

And really interest in all things Colorado... but this is a Real Disappointment!

Here's a small sample of Rsponses to Gov Polis' statement on Pres Biden Pardoing his son..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19782734

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Maybe Biden's Day-1 should have been ending pardons for those damn turkeys everything November as well.

In ordinary times it might be seen as out of line, but compared to Trump, it's nothing.

Maybe he was worried about losing a third. Just sayin'.

The loss of a child is something I wouldn't wish on anyone.

Outgoing presidents have done this for several years now. While I can't understand why Joe even brought up not pardoning his son in the first place, it's ok to change his mind. This is not foreign policy or some administrative decision.

The Orange One would have pushed for jail for Hunter...........

I shudder to think what would have become of Hunter if Joe didn't pardon him.

My chief emotion hearing the news of the pardon was RELIEF.

At least Biden showed he has bells!😉

Democrats should follow the MAGA lead and just do ten outrageous things per day. Who cares what anyone thinks, just do what's best for the party and your family. We will never get a fair deal.

...to try to protect Americans and our constitution.

This should be his final 40 days of terror.

Also, a little bit less self-righteousness on the left would be good. Let's keep it real, people.

n/t

Goddamned SHitler set all the bad precedents that could be set, and the FACT IS that he is going to abuse his power regardless of what Biden does or does not do. EITHER WAY, SHitler would have used it against the Bidens.

That whining is so freaking out of touch, it's SHOCKING.

Jesus Christmas.

All of Steve Bannon's co-conspirators were convicted and sent to prison, by the way. Timothy Shea is still in prison.

Kudos on the Jesus Christmas I have used it forever but include the middle initial. Jesus H. Christmas.

Polis has quite a libertarian lean, doesn't he?

Or maybe he just hid it well behind his being gay and out. He's certainly seems to be getting more conservative as he ages and it's not a good look.

and there will be a lot of virtual ink on this in the coming weeks and months. You can bet that the GOP will use this to influence the American public. Just the way American politics now are conducted.

supercedes trying to stop any nazi P.R. B.S.

I would recommend someone close to the first family convince them to leave the country before they're both kanguRoo-courted with made-up fake evidence.

President Biden did the right thing. Maybe he could have been silent or coy when asked if he would instead of saying he wouldn't pardon him. Doesn't matter. It's done and I'm glad it is. He loves his son more than any Dem or magat that attacks him for it.

And that’s what should have happened here. Nothing gained by voicing their displeasure.

S.O.P. in this country.

if they did a poll.

In an age where half the adults can’t read above the 6th grade level, where 40 percent worship the Orange Sociopath, the days of holier than thou as a political strategy just ain’t gonna fly.

That double standard that has existed since Reagan exists because we “fair minded Democrats” keep buying into it.

I’m not suggested criminal behavior is good: no, I am suggesting we call the double standard for what it is, and point out targeting the minute it happens.

It doesn’t pay to be nice anymore.

And maybe, just maybe, this case will point out the need for more resources to help those with addiction issues.


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First he supports RFK, Jr., and now he's bitching about Hunter Biden's pardon? I thought he was a solid human, but but this is some bullshit.

There were so many precedents set in his first term, so many things that the DOJ let slide, he should be known this time as Precedent trump.

and damaging it would be to an individual, would somehow get the Democrats more respected. But the reality of 2016 and 2024 (and some midterms too) shows that's a pipedream. So why sacrifice Hunter for no reason?

Polis, of course, doesn't hold the moral high ground; he's already tarnished his reputation by being too admiring of some Trump appointments, and should never try to pontificate to another Democrat again. This does not set a "bad precedent"; it was preceded by Trump pardoning Bannon for a far more definite crime. Fuck, it was preceded by a pardon for Kushner, which Trump has no turned into farce by proposing him as an ambassador.

pretending we still live in a pre-Trump world.

Fuck em

They fundamentally do not understand the times that we are in.

Democrats have this odd need to wring their hands and cry and whine. The majority of the GOP would either not say anything or strongly support Trump. There's something to be learned from that. Most normal people will either not know or care about this. "This is a bad precedent that could be..." Just STFU. It's already been done to a far greater degree by Trump and other past presidents -- Democrats and Republicans. And I have never cared when the pearl clutching eggheads have emerged. I don't care now either. Most Americans won't. We've got far bigger fish to fry like how we will resist and fight the insanity of a second Trump term.

than the Hunter pardon

The media is all over this, of course, because they still want to tarnish Biden. His promise not to pardon was made when he was still going to run for re-election. When that changed and trump won, he knew that trump would use his freshly-corrupted justice department to keep the pressure on indefinitely, jeopardizing lives. The post-inauguration landscape in the US will be something nobody has seen or can imagine. I would have questioned Biden's sanity if he had NOT issued the pardon.

Saved his son's life.
There WAS a process to be respected, which has been infected.
Disgusted BEYOND ALL LIMITS, by weak-kneed Vichy democrats who EVEN now can't find the strength to stand up.

... is expected from Republicans; lying is all they know how to do. But when the call comes from inside the house, I get very, very pissed off.

The harassment of Hunter Biden after he had agreed to a deal with prosecutors, who subsequently welshed on it, was a political hatchet job of the lowest sort. But that Republicans all over.

For some of our own to take their side is... well, I don't want to get spanked, so just dredge the darkest corner of your imagination, then double it.

Kushner and giving him a six figure job in government?

Hunter Biden would be prosecuted to no end.

This was the only solution.

his son or daughter? What have we become? Irregardless of political side, a President when faced with his own flesh blood being in prison should not have to answer to his decision. Shame on Democrats, republics and Independents who think otherwise. What father would not pardon his son? Dammit it's insanity!!

I’m glad he pardoned him.
Donnie dumbass pardoned Kushner’s Dad and now he’s making him ambassador to France. So, fuck all of them.

has been thoroughly corrupted as a news organization?

JOE BIDEN WAS NOT DISREGARDING THE LAW. He used it as it was meant to be used - to correct the mistakes made by our justice system.

Do they mention anywhere in that screed that Donald Trump was selling pardons FOR TWO FUCKING MILLION DOLLARS A POP?!

He spends his days lying and stealing while pointing fingers at everyone else. It’s like me telling my favorite joke…..but that’s for another day!🤣😁

Hunter Biden would never have been charged with anything if his Dad
wasn’t President.

Instead the Republicans stepped in and interfered because they saw an opportunity to hurt Biden.

As long as we keep allowing the repigs to run all over us while we try to "be better than them," they will continue to stomp us into the dirt. He needs to not only stand by his pardon of his son, but pardon anybody else this evil MF will try to torment, torture, or harass, in my humble opinion. Finally, our boy hits back, and all he gets is flack? Fuck that noise.

Entirely made up from nothing, based upon someone hacking Hunter's iCloud, then dumping the data to a hard drive and calling it "Hunter's laptop". There is no repair receipt, their is nothing with his signature on it, that proves he left it (an Apple computer) at an unauthorized by Apple shop.

The Repubs had to show HB's dick pics on the floor, to try to keep their charade going..

There was nothing to pardon HB from, but a Republican circus.
Remember, he pleaded guilty, got a fine but the Repubs ignored it and tried to blow it up into something they could harm JB with.
Screw the GOP

Now get over yourself and move on.

when I consider all the horrible lies Republicans and right-wing media told about the President and his family members before and throughout his Presidency for which they have not been called to account and for which they've provided no apology or remorse, I think Hunter's pardon is quite fair and equitable.

KY.....

"Some Democrats are saying"

They use this language no matter how small the number in an attempt to stir up or amplify inner-party controversy where little to none actually exists.

Whereas whenever they use the phrase "Some Republicans think/believe...", it's practically always a deliberate attempt to avoid using the word "most", which is almost always the correct word...since they insist on continuing to treat the GOP like a legitimate political party and not the anti-democratic cesspool of fascist filth that it's been for the last 8 years and counting.

The overwhelming majority of Republicans didn't believe (and still don't believe) Trump lost in 2020, and the media still reported it as "Some Republicans," making it sound like they're a minority when the extreme has been running that party for a decade now. The differentiation between "right" and "far-right" also lost all fucking meaning back in 2016. There is NO need to differentiate anymore, but still they insist on pretending. Our media is a goddamn joke.

about any of them!

Hunter Biden should never have gone to trial for what he did! The plea agreement should have sufficed.

Now we know who will replace Manchin as our latest turncoat.

This bothers me but it doesn't matter anymore. The Republicans and their voters have long pulled us across the Rubicon. They have, and will, pardon people who have, and will, do worse. Those they choose to give pardons to will be at their discretion and entirely unfettered by weather they should or shouldn't. No decision they make is ever constrained by the guardrails of morality.No decision we make will provide a teachable example to these people that will make them revisit the unjustness of their positions and the things they choose to do.

Does this mean that we just give up being upright in our choices, no. Which is why this particular act bothers me. However, in light of the fact of what the Supreme court and conservative judges have done to to bend the system in Trumps favor already. In light of the fact that "conservative" voters have given this an enthusiastic green light. I'm absolutely willing to give Biden a mulligan and continue on with the fight. The coming years are going to be packed full of nonsense that this one bad decision will pale in comparison to and will happen weather Joe had pardoned Hunter or not.

Let’s stand strong on that! Turn it around and focus on the pardons Trump sold on the way out of office. The targeting of Hunter Biden on day one and the fact that none of that is normal. Stop normalizing T and his out in far right field appointees!

Hunter is on trump's enemy list. trump has said they will go after him again. trump pardoned over 200 folks. trump will do what he wants no matter what. I'm glad Biden did it.

I would sacrifice my reputation from having my son's junk splashed in the halls of Congress again because of some bitter clowns. Full stop.

These people along with those who supported Muslims voting third party should be shunned by Democrats in Congress.

Biden is a private citizen who was persecuted by the GOP.

To relieve those frustrations take a double dose of caster oil, you will feel better in the morning. Jeez