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BumRushDaShow

(144,212 posts) Thu Dec 5, 2024, 09:53 AM Dec 5

Words found on shell casings where UnitedHealthcare CEO was shot dead, senior law enforcement official says

Source: NBC News

Dec. 5, 2024, 6:37 AM EST / Updated Dec. 5, 2024, 9:11 AM EST

Shell casings found at the scene where the UnitedHealthcare CEO was shot dead by a masked gunman in front of a busy New York City hotel had the words “deny,” “defend” and “depose” written on them, a senior New York City law enforcement official briefed on the investigation confirmed to NBC News on Thursday.

Brian Thompson, 50, was killed in a “premeditated, preplanned targeted attack” outside the New York Hilton Midtown on Sixth Avenue in the heart of Manhattan, police said.

He was on his way to speak at UnitedHealth Group's investor conference when the gunman who had been lying in wait for several minutes approached from behind and fired at least once into his back and at least once in the right calf, Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch told a news conference Wednesday.

Police say they don't yet know the motive of the gunman, who they say is still at large.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-shot-dead-gunman-bullet-casings-rcna182975

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Words found on shell casings where UnitedHealthcare CEO was shot dead, senior law enforcement official says (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 5 OP

From the video, the gunman doesn't seem to be wearing gloves..did he have them on writing on the bullets? Deuxcents Dec 5 #1

Simple, just look at the list of people who were denied legitimate claims by UHC. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #2

Yep...when their rate of denial is at 32% Bengus81 Dec 5 #7

Legally killing people for profit does tend to make some enemies. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #8

Another reason why war is hell. The Grand Illuminist Dec 5 #28

yup, narrow that suspect list down to 10 million or so folks. ZonkerHarris Dec 5 #20

If the killer was denied coverage there could be millions.. yourout Dec 5 #3

Or a wife Rebl2 Dec 5 #11

"Deny, Defend, Depose" is the title of a book about health insurance abuse. 3Hotdogs Dec 5 #4

Actually, "Delay Deny Defend: Why insurance companies don't pay claims and what you can do about it" Nittersing Dec 5 #5

...is murder one of the things to do about it? ColinC Dec 5 #26

Hmmm Abstractartist Dec 5 #6

Just the start of the trump years tonekat Dec 5 #9

Agree Abstractartist Dec 5 #12

I don't condone violence either, yet I find myself less than sympathetic. PortTack Dec 5 #22

That is the perfect emotional response. The Grand Illuminist Dec 5 #29

That's right Nigrum Cattus Dec 5 #24

They didn't get the book title accurately on the bullets? mn9driver Dec 5 #10

An interesting hypothesis NotHardly Dec 5 #13

Or send Cthulu on call Dec 6 #32

I hope its a warning for CEOs Cthulu on call Dec 5 #14

At least if we get copycat killers going after CEOs wcollar Dec 5 #17

If the CEOs -do- take it as a warning... Shipwack Dec 5 #19

The bodyguard/private security business is about to go through a huge boom. ZonkerHarris Dec 5 #21

They will just hire other paid targets to surround themselves with. hadEnuf Dec 5 #23

Investors, healthcare, and CEO all in the first two paragraphs. Hummmm. Magoo48 Dec 5 #15

What is truly sad Dan Dec 5 #16

Sorry, my sympathy requires pre-approval HereForTheParty Dec 5 #18

I know it sounds bad 4catsmom Dec 5 #25

Its like when a major crime boss gets killed. Its not good. And sad for anybody that loved them... ColinC Dec 5 #27

So, the killer shot the CEO in the back!! What a coward!! I admit that riversedge Dec 6 #30

It is becoming a fact The Grand Illuminist Dec 6 #31

Deuxcents

(20,142 posts)

1. From the video, the gunman doesn't seem to be wearing gloves..did he have them on writing on the bullets?

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 09:58 AM

Dec 5

Fingerprints on the bullets will be important, if he’s in the system.

Irish_Dem

(59,700 posts)

2. Simple, just look at the list of people who were denied legitimate claims by UHC.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:00 AM

Dec 5

And all their relatives.

Should only take a couple of decades to sort out.

Bengus81

(7,496 posts)

7. Yep...when their rate of denial is at 32%

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:12 AM

Dec 5

Irish_Dem

(59,700 posts)

8. Legally killing people for profit does tend to make some enemies.

Reply to Bengus81 (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:14 AM

Dec 5

The Grand Illuminist

(1,700 posts)

28. Another reason why war is hell.

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 07:43 PM

Dec 5

ZonkerHarris

(25,425 posts)

20. yup, narrow that suspect list down to 10 million or so folks.

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 02:14 PM

Dec 5

yourout

(8,135 posts)

3. If the killer was denied coverage there could be millions..

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:00 AM

Dec 5

Of suspects.

Rebl2

(14,949 posts)

11. Or a wife

Reply to yourout (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:39 AM

Dec 5

or child.

3Hotdogs

(13,562 posts)

4. "Deny, Defend, Depose" is the title of a book about health insurance abuse.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:03 AM

Dec 5

That these words were found at the scene --- I believe someone was trying to send a message.

I hope the message is received at many corporate offices.

Nittersing

(6,919 posts)

5. Actually, "Delay Deny Defend: Why insurance companies don't pay claims and what you can do about it"

Reply to 3Hotdogs (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:18 AM

Dec 5

Available in Kindle form

https://www.amazon.com/Delay-Deny-Defend-insurance-companies-ebook/dp/B086Z2HGWM/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0

ColinC

(10,944 posts)

26. ...is murder one of the things to do about it?

Reply to Nittersing (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 07:31 PM

Dec 5

Abstractartist

(166 posts)

6. Hmmm

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:03 AM

Dec 5

I am actually surprised this has not happened more. I do not condone violence, but unfortunately some, who may be pushed to far do to healthcare insurance cuts, if Medicare and SS goes on the block, horrendous tax hikes for middle class, rich people getting away with crime and other issues could very easily see more of this.

tonekat

(2,052 posts)

9. Just the start of the trump years

Reply to Abstractartist (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:16 AM

Dec 5

Sure to be marked by mayhem and chaos.

Abstractartist

(166 posts)

12. Agree

Reply to tonekat (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:42 AM

Dec 5

Agree

PortTack

(34,830 posts)

22. I don't condone violence either, yet I find myself less than sympathetic.

Reply to Abstractartist (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 02:57 PM

Dec 5

The right…essentially big money is murdering young women over failed pregnancies, marginalized groups are being shut out of even the most basic of needs, ppl are losing everything and yet they are silent when we suffer and die for no good reason.

A dead rich dude….nothing more, nothing less

On edit: I do have one strong emotion…I wish the f..k it could have been “him!”

The Grand Illuminist

(1,700 posts)

29. That is the perfect emotional response.

Reply to PortTack (Reply #22)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 07:47 PM

Dec 5

Don't condone yet don't condemn. There are people that have passed through the barrier of no hope.

Nigrum Cattus

(230 posts)

24. That's right

Reply to Abstractartist (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 05:25 PM

Dec 5

That old saying applies - when you ain't got nothin you got nothin to lose

mn9driver

(4,594 posts)

10. They didn't get the book title accurately on the bullets?

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:38 AM

Dec 5

Perhaps this shows someone who is trying to create a distraction from the real motive. When you have a 3 word manifesto and get one wrong…

NotHardly

(1,370 posts)

13. An interesting hypothesis

Reply to mn9driver (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:48 AM

Dec 5

Cthulu on call

(37 posts)

32. Or send

Reply to mn9driver (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 6, 2024, 12:40 PM

Dec 6

A message. "Defend", i see this as a calculated killing sending a message to for profit insurance that the killing of people for profit will be met with an eye for an eye.

Cthulu on call

(37 posts)

14. I hope its a warning for CEOs

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:17 PM

Dec 5

They are now targets for their greed that kills thousands of people every year by denial of coverage. In fact i hope they are all afraid.

wcollar

(196 posts)

17. At least if we get copycat killers going after CEOs

Reply to Cthulu on call (Reply #14)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 01:09 PM

Dec 5

It will probably lead to meaningful gun control legislation.....

Shipwack

(2,340 posts)

19. If the CEOs -do- take it as a warning...

Reply to Cthulu on call (Reply #14)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 02:11 PM

Dec 5

Their only reaction will be to increase personal security.

Changing the way they do business will not cross their minds.

“I have never killed any one, but I have read some obituary notices with great satisfaction.”
- Clarence Darrow (similar quote commonly attributed to Mark Twain)