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muriel_volestrangler

(102,693 posts)
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 09:09 AM Dec 6

Romanian court annuls result of presidential election first round

Source: BBC

It means the process will be restarted from scratch, with the government due to decide a date for a new vote.

The results of that first round saw Calin Georgescu, an almost unknown far-right Nato-sceptic who has previously praised Vladimir Putin, win the most votes.

The court said it made the ruling "to ensure the correctness and legality of the electoral process".
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It comes after documents were ordered declassified from Romania's intelligence agencies, detailing what they said was a mass influence operation – conducted from abroad – to interfere with the result of the vote.

Read more: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4x2epppego



See https://www.democraticunderground.com/113346007 from yesterday about the Russian operation.
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Romanian court annuls result of presidential election first round (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Dec 6 OP
A country reacts against Russian attempt to install an asset as president. sinkingfeeling Dec 6 #1
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If the Romanian election was rigged with the votes, by all means cancel it Polybius Dec 7 #14
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Thank God that a "mass influence operation - conducted from abroad" could not happen in an oligarchy like ours LiberalArkie Dec 6 #3
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I think a few things need to be changed in the voting methods. LiberalArkie Dec 6 #5
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Romanian court annuls result of presidential election first round MLWR Dec 6 #7
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It's not a recount, they're going to hold the first round of voting again muriel_volestrangler Dec 6 #11
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Dec. 17 (meeting of electors) and Jan. 6 (counting of electoral votes) are the last chance of changing anything Polybius Dec 7 #15
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There's an example to follow. malthaussen Dec 6 #8
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Polybius

(18,360 posts)
14. If the Romanian election was rigged with the votes, by all means cancel it
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 12:43 PM
Dec 7

But canceling because of misinformation on social media?

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LiberalArkie

(16,655 posts)
3. Thank God that a "mass influence operation - conducted from abroad" could not happen in an oligarchy like ours
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 10:01 AM
Dec 6

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LiberalArkie

(16,655 posts)
5. I think a few things need to be changed in the voting methods.
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 11:54 AM
Dec 6

Like mandating that all voting machines produce the card like this one


I would feel pretty good if the machine had a slot where the voter could reinsert the card and get a list of what the person voted for. (Or a different device)

The card is interred into a tabulator that may or may not be hacked in tabulating the actual cards. The cards (ballots) are stored in the tabulator. In many states a random audit is conducted by taking the cards out and tabulated in a different machine which is good.

The equipment is good and it is a good system as long as bad actors do not have access.

I think the Democrats main problem is the voter registration drives. Naturally it is nice if everyone can and does vote. But what it the majority of the population has been so indoctrinated by bad people and vote against their own interest. In the past the only people who usually vote are were the knowledgable people.Not so much any more. I do not think that a perfect voting system can overcome the stupidity of people. It will only amplify it.

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MLWR

(22 posts)
7. Romanian court annuls result of presidential election first round
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 01:00 PM
Dec 6

It's nice to know that some countries have a functioning High Court.

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muriel_volestrangler

(102,693 posts)
11. It's not a recount, they're going to hold the first round of voting again
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 02:38 PM
Dec 6

As far as I can tell, all candidates will still be able to run - they haven't said anyone is banned. But Georgescu will presumably be targeted as "the Russian candidate" in the hope that more people will turn out to vote for others. Whether or not that will be enough to kick him out of the top two to go forward to the second round, who knows (I'd imagine that most people who voted for him will do so again, because few people like admitting they were duped), but it should mean his chances of winning the second round are lower.

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Polybius

(18,360 posts)
15. Dec. 17 (meeting of electors) and Jan. 6 (counting of electoral votes) are the last chance of changing anything
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 12:47 PM
Dec 7

After that, there's nothing anyone can do.

Response to Polybius (Reply #15)

malthaussen

(17,786 posts)
8. There's an example to follow.
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 01:06 PM
Dec 6

But I think a marriage can only be annulled if it hasn't been consummated, and we've already had DJT once already.

-- Mal

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