Is Trump so condescending to his followers he thinks they don’t care if he’s lying for the 40,000th time?

He’d be right.

But it’s the job of the media to inform those dumbfucks Putin’s lying on the world stage. Like fat Nixon, the commercial media won’t stop him they’ll normalize him. Or bothsidesism the issue so a blood-thirsty tyrant is welcomed on-the-air equally with legitimate humans.

by refusing to furnish any more weapons or aid under his administration.

other NATO countries? We're not the only ones in play here.

Send troops if needed. To continue the fight. They know what putin has in mind. He has to be thoroughly defeated or he’ll be back.

Irritating that the orange goon and putin act as if Ukraine and the EU have no say.

Did his head explode? Unbelievable that the stenographers didn't convulse with laughter.

I'm sure he'll find a way to brag about how far he threw Ukraine under the bus.

2 - tsf is a traitor to our country and a tool of Pooty
3 - tsf hates Ukraine and it's leaders
4- A few lives might be saved for a few years but once Pooty no longer cares about using tsf, WW111 will be started by Russia taking Ukraine and moving on to invade Poland.
5 - NATO will move against Russia but tsf will have already ended our participation and he or President Musk will side with Russia.

in that little discussion.

That was my first thought.

Trump is gonna try to make Ukraine give up their land to make peace with a man who
is just as bad as Hitler.

Russia withdraws from all Ukrainian territory.

part of their country.

Namely, "Fuck the fuck off".

that support is going stop shortly after January 20 2025.

I pointed out that the poll had been posted on DU before, the headline was misleading, and asked him what percentage said they'd be willing to give up territory in such negotiations. He didn't reply, so here's my answer a few weeks ago:

Thank you.

Which would mean a majority oppose surrendering territory in exchange for peace

depending on the circumstances.

But I could NEVER forgive an evil dictator for slaughtering hundreds of thousands of innocent Ukrainians and hundreds of thousands of his own soldiers.

The total destruction of a peaceful independent country.

Not the orange maniac.

I think Vice-President of the European Commission Kaja Kallas (who scares the crap out of the Russian warmongers) would be a good negotiating team member, which team must inevitably include one or more representatives from Ukraine.

Somebody from NATO itself might be too provocative, but it's worth bearing in mind since it's likely NATO and EU troops may be involved in policing whatever aftermath there might be from a settlement. The UN's been useless in this conflict, so I don't see much point in looking to them.

Turkey might have some constructive input, but maybe not politically acceptable to Russia right now given what's happening in the Middle East. Erdogan has indicated they want Ukraine's original boundaries respected, and it holds the key to entry to the Black Sea.

A role for Qatar might be an idea. It's respected as a negotiator and I believe has been involved in some successful POW swap negotiations between Russia and Ukraine.

and "saw a soul." That led a massive expansion of Russian oligarch's wealth by buying extracted commodities (oil, natural gas, minerals, etc.) at what were then Russian prices (below market) with US money. It enriched a lot of wealthy Americans as well as Russian oligarchs. That begs the question: what does the next fool want to happen? Remember, Trump isn't JUST a Russian asset, he's the asset/lackey of the ultra-wealthy in the U.S. too.

COULD THEY KISS HIS FASCIST ASS ANY HARDER?

Nut they do have tsf who is ready to capitulate to him. Tsf will fold and say he thinks Putin is being fair si ce they were winning. ( we all know that's bot true. The reason putin is "ready" is because they are running out of options. ) turns out when NKoren soldiers run into real soldiers they get killed. NKorean soldiers are play soldiers. They have done nothing but play act their whole lives.

Right?

the ISW's Russian Offensive Campaign Report for 19 December 2024. That goes especially for the first four paragraphs, but there's more further down.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-december-19-2024

Nor will giving up Ukrainian territory sit well with surrounding NATO countries.

They remember well the 'Domino Theory', the one idea the USA used to start the Vietnam War.

BTW...that little school yard "fight" that fat Hitler and Puti have been having for the last month or so is BS propaganda. Their little bromance will resume on Jan 20th.

"author of the 1987 book "Trump: the Art of the Deal"

I'd wager Stump has never read a book much less written one? I honestly hope (for the sake of the people caught in the crossfire) that the war does come to an end. But if Putin is allowed to keep one square mile of stolen land he won't stop there, we've seen this movie before.

These two act they they are the only party in this conversation. They seem to think that Ukraine is going to be willing to go along with any deal they make, I don't think the Ukrainians are willing to give up the land or resources that Putin wants.