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BumRushDaShow

(144,524 posts)
Fri Dec 27, 2024, 02:25 PM Friday

NPR and PBS Stations Brace for Funding Battle Under Trump

Source: New York Times

Dec. 27, 2024, 10:26 a.m. ET


Elon Musk is gunning for public media. In his new role advising President-elect Donald J. Trump, Mr. Musk has floated sweeping cuts to the federal government, including the elimination of entire departments and the firing of agency leaders. One of the most concrete proposals on his list is eliminating hundreds of millions of dollars in annual funding that the government funnels to PBS and NPR stations, home to cultural touchstones like Elmo, Big Bird and “Fresh Air.”

For decades, NPR and PBS have overcome similar threats. But this year, “the attention and intensity” of the calls to defund public media seem greater, said Michael Isip, the president and chief executive of KQED, which operates NPR and PBS stations in the San Francisco Bay Area. NPR and PBS stations are bracing for the fight. After the election, leaders of NPR’s biggest member stations circulated a report that warned “it would be unwise to assume that events will play out as they have in the past,” with regard to their federal funding.

PBS received an update on the situation from political consultants at a board meeting in early December. And station directors in some states are already making their case to legislators. Internally, NPR is preparing for a variety of funding possibilities, including that government money will be clawed back immediately, according to two people briefed on the network’s planning.

While many Americans know NPR and PBS by popular programs like “Sesame Street” and “All Things Considered,” those national organizations are merely the most visible part of a network of local stations crisscrossing the United States — a network that depends on public funding for local news, educational programming and emergency alerts. More than 98 percent of the U.S. population lives within listening range of at least one of the more than 1,000 public radio stations that carry NPR programming, and many stations use government funding to buy shows and pay for their newsrooms.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/27/business/media/npr-pbs-funding-trump-musk.html



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NPR and PBS Stations Brace for Funding Battle Under Trump (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Friday OP
Leave my PBS alone you greedy assholes ☮ walkingman Friday #1
I'm with you. They're greedy, vulgar, and fiscally dishonest... CBHagman Saturday #23
K&R Solly Mack Friday #2
The institutions of a free society mahina Friday #3
NPR died years ago, but has enough funding for a century getagrip_already Friday #4
PBS has excellent programming but the masses would much rather watch WWE or Nascar or Fox News. walkingman Friday #5
They're worth our support, as is FSTV, Brennan Center, CMD, Propublica.. CousinIT Friday #6
I am a PBS sustaining member but the real truth is the GOP does not want walkingman Friday #7
I think you mean the maga masses, not the general public. ificandream Friday #10
PBS hate started a long time ago - bert and ernie were just a start getagrip_already Friday #13
I recall some bipartisan support for public broadcasting... CBHagman Saturday #24
So many are cutting the cord. Can you even stream the channel? jimfields33 Monday #28
Yes, it is of course a OTA channel but you can also stream with the PBS app. walkingman Monday #31
My Rebl2 Friday #9
If NPR has that large of an endowment, why do they need taxpayer funding? n/t MichMan Friday #17
"If NPR has that large of an endowment, why do they need taxpayer funding?" BumRushDaShow Saturday #20
Begs the question - why does the government subside fossil fuel companies? walkingman Monday #32
Why do they need to show a profit with $100 million endowment just sitting there ? MichMan Monday #33
Ever since W and the Iraq war Scubamatt Monday #27
In some cases, fortunately, funding for some of these PBS/other channels is secured already by large amounts of SWBTATTReg Friday #8
Planning to add some amount to my sustaining membership. elleng Friday #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Friday #12
Musk is a maniacal maniac!!!!!! ReRe Friday #14
Try is the key word. Just like tsf first term, he screwed things up, but didn't get done near what he wanted to PortTack Friday #15
Thank you ReRe Saturday #18
They've been eating GOP shit for so long that they're not worth saving Prairie Gates Friday #16
Isn't... littlemissmartypants Saturday #19
Both feature greatly on Australian SBS - special broadcasting service - Aussie105 Saturday #21
main stream media elliesmandt Saturday #22
Kick ck4829 Monday #25
"Elon Musk is gunning for public media." J_William_Ryan Monday #26
Huge NPR fan DeepWinter Monday #29
I know I used to watch BumRushDaShow Monday #30
I haven't listened to terrestrial radio Unladen Swallow Monday #34

CBHagman

(17,168 posts)
23. I'm with you. They're greedy, vulgar, and fiscally dishonest...
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 06:30 PM
Saturday

...because U.S. spending on public broadcasting is not so much as a teaspoonful in a barrel of federal spending.

mahina

(19,096 posts)
3. The institutions of a free society
Fri Dec 27, 2024, 02:58 PM
Friday

Last edited Fri Dec 27, 2024, 04:21 PM - Edit history (1)

deserve our support Right now more rhan ever. I hope DU gives as we can. May they endure. We need them. I need them.

getagrip_already

(17,574 posts)
4. NPR died years ago, but has enough funding for a century
Fri Dec 27, 2024, 03:00 PM
Friday

They received a $100m endowment several years ago, but havent really tapped into because they have other funding sources.

It has become just another right of centrr outlet in the meantime. A few good shows, but a conservative shadow of what they erre, and definitely tsf supporting.

Pbs not so much, but their viewership isnt what it was.

walkingman

(8,590 posts)
5. PBS has excellent programming but the masses would much rather watch WWE or Nascar or Fox News.
Fri Dec 27, 2024, 03:42 PM
Friday

CousinIT

(10,520 posts)
6. They're worth our support, as is FSTV, Brennan Center, CMD, Propublica..
Fri Dec 27, 2024, 03:55 PM
Friday

...The Guardian, The Atlantic, etc.

I went off NPR years ago though, myself. PBS is awesome. You can be a subscriber via 'Passport' - probably wouldn't make up the funding gap though.

walkingman

(8,590 posts)
7. I am a PBS sustaining member but the real truth is the GOP does not want
Fri Dec 27, 2024, 04:05 PM
Friday

public funding for anything...anything. In their opinion, if you are not a for-profit organization, then there is no reason for your existence. They have no problem subsidizing farmers, oil companies, auto - steel - chip - airlines, even (believe it or not) Amazon - all making record profits.



ificandream

(10,816 posts)
10. I think you mean the maga masses, not the general public.
Fri Dec 27, 2024, 06:09 PM
Friday

The maga idiots watch all that crap.

getagrip_already

(17,574 posts)
13. PBS hate started a long time ago - bert and ernie were just a start
Fri Dec 27, 2024, 08:07 PM
Friday

The right has been driving viewers away since before newt started attacking funding.

Woke shows, gay characters that arent, support of lib issues. Commies in fake fur.

Middle america has been bathed in hate for shows on public broadcasting. Its all pure bs, but it all works.

CBHagman

(17,168 posts)
24. I recall some bipartisan support for public broadcasting...
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 06:33 PM
Saturday

...alongside the usual raging from the usual suspects. Rural areas depend on public broadcasting, as they do on the USPS.

walkingman

(8,590 posts)
31. Yes, it is of course a OTA channel but you can also stream with the PBS app.
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 01:40 PM
Monday

If you contribute to PBS you get "Passport" which allows you to watch PBS shows on demand and allows for example series before they air or if they have aired in the past. Some of my favs are "Austin City Limits" and all of the Masterpiece series. They have excellent programming.

Rebl2

(15,000 posts)
9. My
Fri Dec 27, 2024, 05:49 PM
Friday

local npr has been begging for money this week. I listen to the early morning news, but other than that I don’t listen to it.

BumRushDaShow

(144,524 posts)
20. "If NPR has that large of an endowment, why do they need taxpayer funding?"
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 05:27 AM
Saturday
S.1160 - Public Broadcasting Act of 1967

It was authorized by law as they provide a valuable service for the nation, and the funding would be to supplement (and subsidize) the cost of carrying the "public service" programming.

E.g., during Watergate, PBS stations and public radio (NPR stations) broadcast those congressional hearings and of course during the 2 45 Impeachments and the J6 hearings, PBS broadcast (and streamed) them live.



"PBS NEWSHOUR"



They are available when the OTA broadcast networks refuse to cut away from their sports or entertainment programming to cover government-related programs and the public stations don't require any consumer subscription to watch, while cable broadcasts of that programming would have a cost to have access to that programming.

walkingman

(8,590 posts)
32. Begs the question - why does the government subside fossil fuel companies?
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 01:52 PM
Monday

When they make billions of dollars profit every year?

In the case of NPR it encourages a business that would otherwise be unprofitable in the free market.

Otherwise some billionaire would just control all of our media - which is actually pretty much what the situation is these days.

MichMan

(13,620 posts)
33. Why do they need to show a profit with $100 million endowment just sitting there ?
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 05:51 PM
Monday
Post #4, NPR died years ago, but has enough funding for a century

They received a $100m endowment several years ago, but havent really tapped into because they have other funding sources.


Scubamatt

(94 posts)
27. Ever since W and the Iraq war
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 10:54 AM
Monday

NPR has bent over backwards to drive the now traditional "Democrats in disarray" ; "This is a problem for Democrats" and "Democrats need to reach out to the other side" messaging. All I can say for NPR now is that it's better than Faux News.

SWBTATTReg

(24,393 posts)
8. In some cases, fortunately, funding for some of these PBS/other channels is secured already by large amounts of
Fri Dec 27, 2024, 04:08 PM
Friday

donor funds. Hopefully the rest of these channels can cover any shortages by the same process, more $ from donors, etc.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

ReRe

(10,940 posts)
14. Musk is a maniacal maniac!!!!!!
Fri Dec 27, 2024, 08:57 PM
Friday

NPR, PBS and Wikipedia. Next, it's going to be all public libraries!
He is trying to change reality for the whole world!
He wants to dumb us all down all at once!
The man is fucking bonkers!!!
Life has become a science fiction book that won't end!

PortTack

(34,872 posts)
15. Try is the key word. Just like tsf first term, he screwed things up, but didn't get done near what he wanted to
Fri Dec 27, 2024, 11:27 PM
Friday

All this shit is going to make a big dem house majority in’26.

ReRe

(10,940 posts)
18. Thank you
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 12:53 AM
Saturday

I was going over the edge. But you give me a smidgeon of hope to hang on to. Yeah, after a couple years of total chaos, the "voters" will likely come back to the Party of Man. I need to find my copy of Barack's "Audacity of Hope" and read it again.. That might do us all some good, if you think about it.

Prairie Gates

(3,581 posts)
16. They've been eating GOP shit for so long that they're not worth saving
Fri Dec 27, 2024, 11:53 PM
Friday

Let these fuckos reap what they've sown.

littlemissmartypants

(25,991 posts)
19. Isn't...
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 01:45 AM
Saturday

The amount miniscule comparatively? If they want to DOGE it, they won't make much of a dent in the debt or pay for the tax cuts to the top 1% or whoever.

It's the content. Public media isn't telling enough lies. Not spreading enough disinformation (the deliberate sharing of misinformation) to support the ideals of authoritarianism.

Keeping the electorate confused and off balance using intentionally contradictory information and routinely bombarding the public with it relentlessly is a foundation of authoritarianism.

Authoritarianism and disinformation: the dangerous link
Snip...
This rise of authoritarianism is accompanied by polarisation and the use of disinformation by autocratic governments to shape domestic and international opinion. Disinformation can become a problem for democracies when a wide and free media environment lacks oversight and fact-checking, enabling the uncontrolled spread of false information.
Snip...

https://theloop.ecpr.eu/disinformation-in-autocratic-governance/



Imo, this is the only necessary justification for EarlG to consider for the creation of a "designated area for Trump Lunacy" discussions.

This newly formed group should also come with a preemptive statement to that effect.

Allowing disinformation to continue unabated and unchallenged here is just showing support for having our country devolve into strongman oblivion. Not explicitly stating such suggests a degree of naivete about the dangers that we as a nation currently face and is disturbing in its telegraphed ignorance on the subject.

❤️

Aussie105

(6,506 posts)
21. Both feature greatly on Australian SBS - special broadcasting service -
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 07:53 AM
Saturday

plus feeds from other public broadcasting sources around the world.

I imagine a lot of countries do.

Is this America shutting the door on the rest of the world?
Hopefully, it doesn't happen.

elliesmandt

(13 posts)
22. main stream media
Sat Dec 28, 2024, 03:33 PM
Saturday

With many facets of "main stream" media already caving under pressure from Trump, it is essential that NPR and PBS remain viable information entities.

DeepWinter

(615 posts)
29. Huge NPR fan
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 11:03 AM
Monday

As I've lived and traveled around the States, I've always had NPR there. Outside of the news/shows, it's typically classical and jazz music which is not the easist to find depending where you are.

PBS just doesn't offer much to keep me tuned in. Antiques roadshow is always interesting though. To be fair, I really don't watch very much TV at all.

BumRushDaShow

(144,524 posts)
30. I know I used to watch
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 11:18 AM
Monday

"This Old House", "The French Chef" (with Julia Child), MacNeil/Lehrer Report, and Wall $treet Week (with Louis Rukeyser & his dad, who would make an occasional appearance) on PBS back in the day - before HGTV, Food Network, and obviously YouTube.

Agree about the TV watching - I haven't watched much on TV at all (finally forced myself away to watch "Beetlejuice Beetlejuice" (the sequel of the original "Beetlejuice" ) yesterday, which I did want to see. Want to drag myself away to watch "Twisters" too (missed it in the theaters - when I was finally ready to go, it had already left the theater near me ).

Unladen Swallow

(133 posts)
34. I haven't listened to terrestrial radio
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 06:04 PM
Monday

or watched syndicated or network television in over a decade, maybe more. Hell, I haven't even turned on my TV in months. I lived without one for years, it was the greatest time ever. Then a TV moved in with a former partner of mine, and it never left. I really should get rid of it.

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