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BumRushDaShow

(146,295 posts) Mon Dec 30, 2024, 02:29 PM Dec 30

Retired Army general declares Musk a 'national security risk' in brutal NYT op-ed

Source: The Independent

Monday 30 December 2024 16:20 GMT

Elon Musk has been branded a “national security risk” by a former U.S. army general, who cited his concerns over the tech billionaire’s close ties with the Chinese government. Lieutenant General Russel L. Honoré, who retired in 2008, highlighted Musk’s history of appeasing and praising the Chinese Communist Party and his multiple business deals with the party, particularly in the modern space race.

In a scathing op-ed, published in The New York Times, Honoré noted that Musk and his company SpaceX already face federal reviews for failing to provide details of meetings with foreign leaders, but said that such infractions were “just the beginning of my worries.”

Musk has previously borrowed at least $1.4 billion from banks controlled by the Chinese government to help build a “gigafactory” in Shanghai for Tesla. The factory was responsible for more than half of Tesla’s global deliveries in the third quarter of 2024.

“China does not tend to give things away,” Honoré wrote. “The country’s laws stipulate that the Communist Party can demand intelligence from any company doing business in China, in exchange for participating in the country’s markets. “This means Mr. Musk’s business dealings in China could require him to hand over sensitive classified information, learned either through his business interests or his proximity to President-elect Donald Trump.”

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-nationl-security-risk-nyt-op-ed-b2671611.html

Link to NYT Op-Ed - Elon Musk Is a National Security Risk

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Retired Army general declares Musk a 'national security risk' in brutal NYT op-ed (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 30 OP

Yay for Honore...still trying to help the American people !!!!! Karadeniz Dec 30 #1

And he's not COL Mustard Dec 30 #12

Isn't it time to just hand the country over to Putin? dem4decades Dec 30 #2

The irony here BumRushDaShow Dec 30 #3

I guess that explains the riff in MAGA, another irony, neither wants to actually dem4decades Dec 30 #5

Anyone who adopts or encourages a MAGat philosophy BumRushDaShow Dec 30 #6

Might as well ck4829 Jan 20 #14

Even Ramaswamy has raised concerns Abolishinist Dec 30 #4

Well, that national security "risk" jumped like... Justice matters. Dec 30 #7

His work after Katrina is so appreciated. Tom Dyer Dec 30 #8

We were north of NOLA BOSSHOG Dec 30 #13

Never was one named better. mahina Dec 30 #9

Always retirees Trexmaster Dec 30 #10

That is what a patriot looks like MAGAT assholes. Thank you General Honore Evolve Dammit Dec 30 #11

Not to mention an illegal immigrant. travelingthrulife Jan 20 #15

So? maxsolomon Jan 21 #16

Why didn't any retired military generals come out and declare the orange one a domestic enemy as in their oath? nt Hotler Jan 21 #17

It violates The Uniform Code of Military Justice for a Commissioned Officer, including those of us who are retired, from 24601 Jan 21 #18

Karadeniz

(23,677 posts)

1. Yay for Honore...still trying to help the American people !!!!!

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 02:35 PM

Dec 30

COL Mustard

(7,128 posts)

12. And he's not

Reply to Karadeniz (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 04:39 PM

Dec 30

Stuck on stupid.

dem4decades

(12,151 posts)

2. Isn't it time to just hand the country over to Putin?

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 02:50 PM

Dec 30

It's the ultimate "owning the libs", which is ironic, seeing we're the ones that were supposedly un-American, don't you think?

BumRushDaShow

(146,295 posts)

3. The irony here

Reply to dem4decades (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 02:57 PM

Dec 30

is that we know 45 belongs to Pootie but apparently Muskrat belongs to Xi!

dem4decades

(12,151 posts)

5. I guess that explains the riff in MAGA, another irony, neither wants to actually

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 03:28 PM

Dec 30

Make America Great Again.

BumRushDaShow

(146,295 posts)

6. Anyone who adopts or encourages a MAGat philosophy

Reply to dem4decades (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 03:34 PM

Dec 30

is a natural born opportunist and will "use this 'opportunity'" to enrich themselves (even if is contrary to another's taking advantage of their own "opportunity" ).

ck4829

(36,472 posts)

14. Might as well

Reply to dem4decades (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 01:19 PM

Jan 20

Abolishinist

(2,140 posts)

4. Even Ramaswamy has raised concerns

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 03:00 PM

Dec 30

about potential national security concerns surrounding Musk and China.

In May 2023, Ramaswamy publicly stated, “I have no reason to think Elon won’t jump like a circus monkey when [Chinese leader] Xi Jinping calls in the hour of need. “The U.S. needs leaders who aren’t in China’s pocket,” he wrote in a separate post on X, although he did not name Musk.

Justice matters.

(7,725 posts)

7. Well, that national security "risk" jumped like...

Reply to Abolishinist (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 03:52 PM

Dec 30

a circus monkey with a neo-nazi-font cap at the felonious rapist's rally in Butler...

Vivek has premonition powers but nothing will be done about it, thanks to the stupid magats.

Tom Dyer

(101 posts)

8. His work after Katrina is so appreciated.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 03:58 PM

Dec 30

BOSSHOG

(40,805 posts)

13. We were north of NOLA

Reply to Tom Dyer (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 09:47 PM

Dec 30

Muddling through the aftermath. Remember Heckuva job Brownie? LGEN Honoree An Officer, A Patriot, A Professional, A Hero. And a Coonass to boot.

mahina

(19,296 posts)

9. Never was one named better.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 04:02 PM

Dec 30

Well put!

Trexmaster

(29 posts)

10. Always retirees

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 04:05 PM

Dec 30

Always.

“Retired”, “Former”, “Ex-”, never “The”...

Evolve Dammit

(19,624 posts)

11. That is what a patriot looks like MAGAT assholes. Thank you General Honore

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 04:07 PM

Dec 30

travelingthrulife

(1,340 posts)

15. Not to mention an illegal immigrant.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 02:13 PM

Jan 20

If we had a functioning legal system he could be long ago deported. Let him wreck his own country.

maxsolomon

(35,612 posts)

16. So?

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jan 21, 2025, 12:42 PM

Jan 21

We're post-accountability now.

NYT Op-Eds have the same impact as a DOJ Special Prosecutor in a Democratic Administration. None.

Hotler

(12,577 posts)

17. Why didn't any retired military generals come out and declare the orange one a domestic enemy as in their oath? nt

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jan 21, 2025, 06:45 PM

Jan 21

24601

(4,045 posts)

18. It violates The Uniform Code of Military Justice for a Commissioned Officer, including those of us who are retired, from

Reply to Hotler (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 21, 2025, 11:21 PM

Jan 21

"using contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present..."

The truth of the statement is irrelevant. The standard of proof is that the words were used and that in the context used, the words were contemptuous.

The UCMJ is Federal Law, and the specific reference is Article 88, Contempt Toward Officials. The maximum punishment is dismissal, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and one year of forced confinement. Dismissal is the Officer & Cadet equivalent of a Dishonorable Discharge.

]https://www.mymilitarylawyers.com/ucmj-article-88-contempt-toward-officials/

You may recall that in 1993, the Air Force fined and retired Maj. Gen. Harold N. Campbell who called President Clinton a "pot-smoking," "womanizing" and "draft-dodging" Commander in Chief. If only he had added, "...and we fighter pilots admire most of these qualities," then the context might not have been contemptuous.

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