Trump says U.S. may turn to allies for shipbuilding efforts
Source: Yonhap News Agency
WASHINGTON, Jan. 6 (Yonhap) -- U.S. President Donald Trump said Monday that the United States may use allies in its efforts to build naval vessels, amid expectations that his second administration might seek cooperation with South Korea's shipbuilding industry after taking office later this month.
Trump made the remarks in an interview on the Hugh Hewitt Show, a conservative radio program, amid calls for America to bolster its shipbuilding capacity amid an intensifying rivalry with China. China is known to have over 230 times the shipbuilding capacity of the U.S.
During a call with now-impeached President Yoon Suk Yeol in November, Trump said the U.S. seeks to work with South Korea in the shipbuilding industry, particularly in naval shipbuilding, exports, repairs and maintenance, Yoon's office has said.
"We are going to do something with ships. We need ships and we may have to go a different route than you would normally go," Trump said.
Read more: https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20250107000351315
What happened to "Proudly Made in America"? And all the good union jobs that are going to be shipped overseas?
Trump lied. Surprise! Surprise!
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JoseBalow
(6,371 posts)Why else would he care?
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JoseBalow
(6,371 posts)They sail.
brush
(58,710 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,068 posts)Building ships on the other side of the world is a license to steal. There would be absolutely no meaningful oversight, so the operation would be rife with corruption from day one.
LudwigPastorius
(11,525 posts)There is no such thing as a win-win deal in Trump's rotting brain.
Walleye
(37,479 posts)Great piss off our allies and then get them to build a US Navy ship. What could possibly go wrong?
Unladen Swallow
(491 posts)in a shorter amount of time. Parallel manufacturing in multiple nations at once maybe? The Navy will remain hyper-critical in the next 25 years.
Snoopy 7
(610 posts)putin gave him a ball with a listing device, so whoever builds the ship will, not can but will, install listening and tracking devices thru out the ship. No they won't be able to locate them. The guy with the blond squirl on his head doesn't care it's exactly like everyone believes it's the GRIFT for his self enrichment and nothing more.
jgmiller
(485 posts)This is him trying to take credit for something he didn't do, so par for the course just on a different angle.
Biden allowed a South Korean company to purchase the company that took over part of the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard so that they could improve it and increase capacity. The Navy has been talking about using South Korean yards for over a year as well.
Unfortunately when the cold war ended and we rushed head long into closing bases we also closed shipyards. Closing an army or air force base is a big deal but in the end it's just flat land, if you need to build a new one of those bases there is plenty of land especially in the west where you can do it. A shipyard is an entirely different animal, you need a port on a bay and the last time I checked we've built up cities and marinas around pretty much every port in the US. So when they closed Long Beach, Hunter's Point, Mare Island and the Philadelphia Navy Yard we lost most of that capacity. That doesn't just mean the ability to build new ships, it means the ability to repair existing ones as well. Right now on the West coast the navy can only drydock carriers in Bremeton, WA for instance.
It was a stupid shortsighted decision and one you can't go back from unless you take all that land back but nobody is going to do that.
angrychair
(10,096 posts)All over the country. From San Diego California to Newport News Virginia and everything inbetween.
The smaller ones for the Coast Guard, Navy and Army can be built in Mississippi or Louisiana or Connecticut. Not counting the Naval shipyards in Virginia and Washington.
So we do have the capacity
It's skilled labor and the transitory nature of the trades that can hurt us.
Not to mention General Dynamics Bath Iron Works as well.
Shipwack
(2,435 posts)When a shipyard closes you lose a lot of skilled specialized labor.
That's why we still have two companies building submarines, even though we could get by with one, given our current rate of production.
Well, that and safety in not having all our eggs in one basket.
Buddyzbuddy
(308 posts)Does he mean his allies Russia, China and
N. Korea?
republianmushroom
(18,656 posts)convicted felons "allies".
Sanity Claws
(22,106 posts)Do we have any left?
SARose
(1,105 posts)How many ship building employees are undocumented or here under asylum?
How do you build a ship with no one to weld? Asking for a friend
TNNurse
(7,211 posts)maxrandb
(16,195 posts)equals - "I have no fucking idea what I am taking about".
Scratch that! It's not just building ships that he has no fucking clue about.
Actually, this might be a great idea.
Send Hegseth to Wanwol-dong in Busan and he'll get so drunk we may never see him again.
Igel
(36,527 posts)And when we build, there are meaningful delays and large cost overruns.
SK has capacity.
https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2024/february/united-states-must-improve-its-shipbuilding-capacity
They probably also don't have the same delay and cost overrun issues, either.
summer_in_TX
(3,422 posts)skills, and manpower to build ships here seems to me to be very much a national security concern.
We lost capacity after World War I that slowed us down and hurt us in the early part of WWII.
angrychair
(10,096 posts)By law all ships have to be made in America and with only American sourced parts.
Also I have a feeling that Republicans controlled states like Louisiana and Mississippi might have a word. Not to mention California, Washington, Connecticut and Virginia. Not to mention that some ships source their parts from all 50 states.
Not to mention that some parts only have a single source and without orders for that part with go out of business and then we won't have a source for that part.
relayerbob
(7,093 posts)Figarosmom
(4,181 posts)The allies will do anything for us?
I'm guessing that he's saying yeah we will continue to protect you for ship's. Pay up. Extortion plain and simple. Yet I'll bet it will be spun as deal making
PSPS
(14,282 posts)Our former allies will be too busy reinforcing their own fleets.
mahina
(19,367 posts)Ford_Prefect
(8,262 posts)rampartd
(1,416 posts)all my old ibew brothers in pascagoula are overjoyed.
Hope22
(3,440 posts)Maybe we could outsource our president. We would have a better chance of finding a sane one!
Miguelito Loveless
(4,785 posts)to a South African.
OAITW r.2.0
(29,289 posts)They've been building cutting edge Destroyer technology for 100 years.
Historic NY
(38,388 posts)dchill
(41,144 posts)I'll just bet.
iemanja
(55,417 posts)Old Crank
(5,183 posts)LizfromRI
(4 posts)My son works for General Dynamics. He always says he's surrounded by idiots at work. They are all MAGAs so he basically has to hold his tongue and it's been very stressful these last few months. RI would be devastated if we lose those high paying jobs. General Dynamics in RI is not unionized. Makes me sick that the idiot MAGAs are going to bring us all down with them.
Miguelito Loveless
(4,785 posts)The ones you are getting ready to knife in the back by leaving NATO, or your Russian allies?