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riversedge

(74,077 posts) Sun Jan 12, 2025, 04:19 AM Jan 12

Vance Says Violent Jan. 6 Protesters Shouldn't Be Pardoned

Source: bloomberg.com

By Wendy Benjaminson January 11, 2025 at 7:33 PM CST

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President-elect Donald Trump repeatedly vowed during his campaign that on his first day in office he would pardon the protesters who stormed the Capitol to stop the certification of the 2020 election, which President Joe Biden won.

Five people died as a result of the violence and the hundreds injured included 174 police officers. Some 127 defendants were convicted on at least one charge related to the riot.

“If you protested peacefully on January 6, and you had Merrick Garland’s Department of Justice treat you like a gang member, you should be pardoned,” Vance said in an interview to air Sunday on Fox News Sunday. “If you committed violence on that day, obviously you shouldn’t be pardoned.”

Trump has begun to modify his promise since winning election, saying that “many” will be pardoned and that there could be exceptions for people who “got out of control.” But he hasn’t made the clear distinction that Vance made between violent and non-violent protesters......

Read more: Capitol Rioter on Way to Prison Predicts Trump Will Pardon Him

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-12/vance-says-violent-jan-6-protesters-shouldn-t-be-pardoned

Vance has not elaborated on what he means by non-violent either!!

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Demonstrators attempt to breach the U.S. Capitol building on Jan. 6, 2021.Photographer: Victor J. Blue/

As the Jan 6 community was celebrating today because Suzanne Monk TOLD them everyone was getting pardoned, here comes JD Vance claiming if you committed violence, no go.

Who is he talking about? I’ll start-Copeland. List your thoughts.

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Vance Says Violent Jan. 6 Protesters Shouldn't Be Pardoned (Original Post) riversedge Jan 12 OP

"If you protested peacefully on January 6, and you had Merrick Garland's Department of Justice treat you like elleng Jan 12 #1

That's easy enough then, because the people who protested peacefully on Jan. 6..... Think. Again. Jan 12 #2

This is a promising development, showing that insiders can actually disagree with Trump and survive (so far). TheRickles Jan 12 #3

Vance is the only one that Trump can't fire Polybius Jan 12 #11

True, but I bet DJT could find a way. TheRickles Jan 12 #12

Vance is a lot of things, but he's not an idiot Polybius Jan 12 #13

I meant that Trump could force the resignation - "Lovely daughter you got there, it'd be a shame if...." TheRickles Jan 12 #15

Trump controls Attorney General Nasruddin Jan 12 #17

I wonder if J.D. cleared that with his big boss man? ReRe Jan 12 #4

Vance must be thinking -- well, dreaming maybe -- ahead to a Vance-Thiel-Musk triumvirate. KPN Jan 12 #5

Interesting. I wonder if he's trying to appear the sane alternative. NH Ethylene Jan 12 #6

That ship sailed when he objected to fact-checking during the debate. n/t intheflow Jan 12 #8

Nobody (except us) is going to remember that a couple of years down the road. n/t NH Ethylene Jan 12 #18

Perhaps, and he was the only Republican who clapped when Harris announced the Electoral Votes for her and Walz Polybius Jan 12 #10

Who? Dem2theMax Jan 12 #7

Pfffttt....he's just claiming they all protested "peacefully" as Trump has Bengus81 Jan 12 #9

Perhaps some day I'll give a fuck what JD thinks or says JoseBalow Jan 12 #14

Did Trump get Vance to float this position as an excuse to reneigh on his promise to issue blanket pardons for Jan 6th? patphil Jan 12 #16

Maybe because someone told the felon these convicted felons Justice matters. Jan 12 #19

elleng

(137,821 posts)

1. "If you protested peacefully on January 6, and you had Merrick Garland's Department of Justice treat you like

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2025, 04:42 AM

Jan 12

a gang member, you should be pardoned,” Vance said in an interview to air Sunday on Fox News Sunday. “If you committed violence on that day, obviously you shouldn’t be pardoned.”

Vance suggests there's a grey area in there. Thing tmp agrees?

Think. Again.

(21,156 posts)

2. That's easy enough then, because the people who protested peacefully on Jan. 6.....

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2025, 04:55 AM

Jan 12

....would not have left the permitted rally site and so would have not have illegally been anywhere near the Capital building, and certainly not past the barricades that the violent protesters broke down and stormed through.

TheRickles

(2,559 posts)

3. This is a promising development, showing that insiders can actually disagree with Trump and survive (so far).

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2025, 08:18 AM

Jan 12

Polybius

(18,997 posts)

11. Vance is the only one that Trump can't fire

Reply to TheRickles (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 12, 2025, 01:11 PM

Jan 12

Like Trump, he was elected to serve for 4 years.

TheRickles

(2,559 posts)

12. True, but I bet DJT could find a way.

Reply to Polybius (Reply #11)

Sun Jan 12, 2025, 01:20 PM

Jan 12

Behind the scenes pressure to resign and spend more time with family, etc.

Polybius

(18,997 posts)

13. Vance is a lot of things, but he's not an idiot

Reply to TheRickles (Reply #12)

Sun Jan 12, 2025, 01:25 PM

Jan 12

He knows that there's a good chance that Trump might not have the cognitive ability to serve all 4 years. He has an excellent chance of becoming President. It would be incredibly stupid to resign.

TheRickles

(2,559 posts)

15. I meant that Trump could force the resignation - "Lovely daughter you got there, it'd be a shame if...."

Reply to Polybius (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 12, 2025, 05:11 PM

Jan 12

Or something along those lines.

Nasruddin

(926 posts)

17. Trump controls Attorney General

Reply to TheRickles (Reply #15)

Sun Jan 12, 2025, 06:03 PM

Jan 12

Vance controls his breakfast menu
Cf Agnew, Spiro

ReRe

(11,095 posts)

4. I wonder if J.D. cleared that with his big boss man?

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2025, 09:39 AM

Jan 12

Anyone who crossed over the threshold of a broken window or door of the US Capital is guilty in one way another as far as I am concerned.

KPN

(16,299 posts)

5. Vance must be thinking -- well, dreaming maybe -- ahead to a Vance-Thiel-Musk triumvirate.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2025, 11:11 AM

Jan 12

NH Ethylene

(31,027 posts)

6. Interesting. I wonder if he's trying to appear the sane alternative.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2025, 11:14 AM

Jan 12

Vance might be trying to separate himself from Trump's craziness. If Trump goes down in a ball of flames of his own making, Vance won't want to be sucked down with him.

intheflow

(29,235 posts)

8. That ship sailed when he objected to fact-checking during the debate. n/t

Reply to NH Ethylene (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 12, 2025, 12:14 PM

Jan 12

NH Ethylene

(31,027 posts)

18. Nobody (except us) is going to remember that a couple of years down the road. n/t

Reply to intheflow (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 12, 2025, 08:38 PM

Jan 12

Polybius

(18,997 posts)

10. Perhaps, and he was the only Republican who clapped when Harris announced the Electoral Votes for her and Walz

Reply to NH Ethylene (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 12, 2025, 01:10 PM

Jan 12

Feel free to skip to 0:53 for Harris' votes, and Walz's at 1:48.

Dem2theMax

(10,551 posts)

7. Who?

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2025, 11:58 AM

Jan 12

Bengus81

(7,771 posts)

9. Pfffttt....he's just claiming they all protested "peacefully" as Trump has

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2025, 12:24 PM

Jan 12

so basically let em all out UNLESS you can *gasp*...find someone who was violent that day in the eyes of Fuhrer Trump.

JoseBalow

(6,280 posts)

14. Perhaps some day I'll give a fuck what JD thinks or says

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2025, 01:30 PM

Jan 12

Today ain't it.

patphil

(7,326 posts)

16. Did Trump get Vance to float this position as an excuse to reneigh on his promise to issue blanket pardons for Jan 6th?

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2025, 05:50 PM

Jan 12

Justice matters.

(7,785 posts)

19. Maybe because someone told the felon these convicted felons

Reply to patphil (Reply #16)

Sun Jan 12, 2025, 09:11 PM

Jan 12

would side with convicted felon bannon against him and his oligarchs...

He's a coward, so... better let the violent ones with guns and pipe bombs behind bars for decades.

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