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Jose Garcia

(3,031 posts) Mon Jan 20, 2025, 05:25 PM Jan 20

Alexander Vindman's wife says 'no pardons were offered or discussed'

Source: The Hill

The wife of retired Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman said “no pardons were offered or discussed” only a few hours before President Trump’s official return to the White House.

“Whatever happens to my family, know this: No pardons were offered or discussed. I cannot begin to describe the level of betrayal and hurt I feel,” Rachel Vindman said in a Monday morning post on the social platform Threads.

Alexander Vindman, alongside his brother Rep. Eugene Vindman (D-Va.), blew the whistle on the 2019 phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that led to Trump’s first impeachment.

Former President Biden announced pardons to people including Anthony Fauci, Gen. Mark Milley, and former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), all of whom have been targets of Trump’s ire in the past, on Monday.

Read more: https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/administration/5096251-alexander-vindman-pardons-offered/amp/

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Alexander Vindman's wife says 'no pardons were offered or discussed' (Original Post) Jose Garcia Jan 20 OP

Did they apply? Ocelot II Jan 20 #1

Was it necessary to apply? mwf Jan 20 #2

It's not necessary, though it's usual - just wondering if they'd requested one. Ocelot II Jan 20 #3

This is disappointing news. N/T lapucelle Jan 20 #4

Jack Smith is also SOL MichMan Jan 20 #5

What is sol? Rebl2 Jan 20 #8

"Shit out of Luck" n/t MichMan Jan 20 #9

s**t outta luck Marthe48 Jan 20 #10

"Shit, out'a luck." 3Hotdogs Jan 20 #11

Might there be a pocket veto? m/t off-the-clock Jan 20 #6

On no. mzmolly Jan 20 #7

Sorry to hear this Marthe48 Jan 20 #12

Total Agreement. BamaRefugee Jan 20 #14

Shameful and disgusting. Just leave him twisting in the wind. WTF????????????????????????????? BamaRefugee Jan 20 #13

President Biden pardons brother James, other relatives for unspecified crimes before leaving office republianmushroom Jan 20 #15

Someone should have raised it with the White House. They may not have been know the why and the how question everything Jan 20 #16

For f*ck sake, they were the whistleblowers that led to asswipes questionseverything Jan 21 #17

You wonder what Ukrainian President Zelensky is thinking about this oversight. C0RI0LANUS Jan 21 #18

Ocelot II

(122,453 posts)

1. Did they apply?

Reply to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 05:31 PM

Jan 20

mwf

(36 posts)

2. Was it necessary to apply?

Reply to Ocelot II (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 05:34 PM

Jan 20

Did Fauci apply? Liz Cheney?

Ocelot II

(122,453 posts)

3. It's not necessary, though it's usual - just wondering if they'd requested one.

Reply to mwf (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 05:39 PM

Jan 20

Some people got pardons they didn't ask for; did some others ask and not get them? Personally, I think the Vindmans should have been on the list, don't know why they weren't.

lapucelle

(19,668 posts)

4. This is disappointing news. N/T

Reply to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 05:51 PM

Jan 20

MichMan

(13,946 posts)

5. Jack Smith is also SOL

Reply to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 05:55 PM

Jan 20

Rebl2

(15,356 posts)

8. What is sol?

Reply to MichMan (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 06:01 PM

Jan 20

MichMan

(13,946 posts)

9. "Shit out of Luck" n/t

Reply to Rebl2 (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 06:06 PM

Jan 20

Marthe48

(19,844 posts)

10. s**t outta luck

Reply to Rebl2 (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 06:07 PM

Jan 20

My parents used the phrase

3Hotdogs

(13,767 posts)

11. "Shit, out'a luck."

Reply to Rebl2 (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 06:07 PM

Jan 20

off-the-clock

(243 posts)

6. Might there be a pocket veto? m/t

Reply to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 06:00 PM

Jan 20

Last edited Wed Jan 22, 2025, 04:36 AM - Edit history (1)

Oops I meant pocket pardon

mzmolly

(51,809 posts)

7. On no.

Reply to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 06:01 PM

Jan 20

This is not good.

Marthe48

(19,844 posts)

12. Sorry to hear this

Reply to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 06:12 PM

Jan 20

I kind of wish that President Biden would have issued a blanket pardon to cover every person who is or might be on traitor felon's shit list. That'd be half the country, but it probably would have highlighted the lengths traitor felon will go to pay back every single person he sees as an enemy.

The idiots who let this happened have unleashed hell on America and the world.