Kim Davis pleads with appeals court to let her off the hook for $100,000 owed to same-sex couple she denied a marriage
Source: Law & Crime
Jan 30th, 2025, 5:36 pm
Kim Davis, the former county clerk from Kentucky who infamously refused to grant marriage licenses to same-sex couples after the U.S. Supreme Court legalized gay marriage, is now asking a federal appellate court to nix a jurys $100,000 civil judgment against her.
Previously the clerk for Rowan County in the Bluegrass State, Davis refused to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, citing her religious beliefs. This refusal flew in the face of the landmark 2015 decision in Obergefell v. Hodges as well as an executive order by the governor directing all county clerks to comply with the ruling.
In turn, two couples sued Davis: David Ermold and David Moore, and James Yates and Will Smith. Each couple had been repeatedly denied a marriage license by Davis who would go on to serve six days in jail before losing reelection to a Democrat in 2018.
In March 2022, U.S. District Judge David Bunning, a George W. Bush appointee, granted the plaintiffs motion for summary judgment finding that Davis had knowingly violated the law.
Read more: https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/her-arguments-are-again-meritless-kim-davis-pleads-with-appeals-court-to-let-her-off-the-hook-for-100000-owed-to-same-sex-couple-she-denied-a-marriage-license/
Full headline: Her arguments are again meritless: Kim Davis pleads with appeals court to let her off the hook for $100,000 owed to same-sex couple she denied a marriage license
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Botany
(73,112 posts)What is she @ 4 marriages and ? of kids?
Fuck her.
groundloop
(12,485 posts)(As far as I've ever been able to find not one single word.)
Maraya1969
(23,147 posts)against 2 women having sex. And there was one other fact that I cannot remember
I think the 2 men sex thing is all about procreation. Israel is filled with excavation's showing how one tribe concurred another and built upon the land. 2 men having sex would not help in increasing their man power so they were label "abomination" Same way shell fish were - I think some people died and that is how they dealt with losing the man power - label it an "abomination"
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Botany
(73,112 posts)are nasty to LGBT people on earth.
elleng
(137,952 posts)soldierant
(8,163 posts)NBachers
(18,286 posts)tanyev
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SleeplessinSoCal
(9,853 posts)boonecreek
(484 posts)This is still knocking around in the courts? Couldn't remember who Kim Davis was until I read the article.
perdita9
(1,208 posts)This incident happened years ago, the verdict happened years ago. The court should have enforced the ruling long before now. The plaintiffs shouldn't have to wait so long for justice.
Deuxcents
(20,798 posts)bluestarone
(18,707 posts)Seems like the appeal process never ends for these type of monsters.
rurallib
(63,403 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(7,100 posts)We need to start saying that anyone who would dispute a lawful court order is like those illegal immigrants we keep hearing about. Both are breaking the laws of this great country!
(If they can paint with such a broad brush, so can we! If they even make a face at a government agency or official, we need to start screaming about how 'unpatriotic' it is and how they must be 'the enemy' of such a great nation.)
Oopsie Daisy
(5,175 posts)state of stupid
(118 posts)Oopsie Daisy
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Maraya1969
(23,147 posts)Bengus81
(7,873 posts)niyad
(121,998 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(62,697 posts)Embattled Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis will return to work on Monday, and her lawyers refuse to clarify whether she will allow her deputies to continue issuing marriage licenses as they have since last Friday. If she doesnt, it could restart a new cycle of contempt and send her back to jail for again violating a federal court order.
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Mat Staver, head of the Liberty Counsel, the anti-LGBT legal organization that represents Davis, has made numerous claims in the press about the validity of licenses issued by her deputies and the accommodations she could be provided. For example, in a new interview with the Heritage Foundations Daily Signal, Staver claims that Gov. Steve Beshear (D) could simply print new marriage license forms that take her name and title off, which costs nothing to the commonwealth. Every aspect of this is untrue.
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But the legislature doesnt actually have to change anything to accommodate Davis. Kentucky law specifically states that anything a ministerial officer can do may be performed by his lawful deputy. This, combined with the laws numerous references to deputy county clerks issuing marriage licenses and filing marriage certificates, suggests that nothing actually requires Davis to interact with a marriage license.
This question similarly came up during the contempt hearing as {U.S. District Judge David Bunning} was considering requiring the deputies to issue licenses. Can deputies issue valid marriage licenses without Davis presence or approval? William Ellis Sharp, an ACLU attorney representing the same-sex couples who filed the complaint against Davis, explained to the court that it made little sense that she could actually prevent deputies from performing their duty. ... We dont think her authority extends that far, Sharp explained, insofar as the office, apart from Kim Davis, exists to perform certain public functions. Kim Davis does not have to personally touch every marriage license. She employs people for the purpose of carrying out the duties of that office. To the extent Kim Davis has an erroneous instruction of her ability to block them from doing that, that, nonetheless, does not mean that they cannot perform those functions.
Fri Sep 11, 2015: The Kim Davis Saga May Last Until At Least January, If Not Longer
BumRushDaShow
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Solly Mack
(93,803 posts)I would not be surprised to learn that some of them even promised her they would help her out if she just stuck to her guns.
usaf-vet
(7,234 posts)I remember that the last time she lost a court case, that is precisely what happened. Some rich entities just wrote her a check.
I could be wrong!
In any case, I don't believe she has really suffered because of her actions. She might have benefited from the pain she inflicted on others.
barbtries
(30,153 posts)and it breaks her.
Hekate
(96,033 posts)IIRC, his reason for doing so was that a line-up of SCOTUS decisions (starting with Griswold, I think) had hinged on a presumptive Constitutional right to privacy, and he name-checked them. He only left out Loving vs Virginia.
https://www.courthousenews.com/thomas-didnt-mention-interracial-marriage-and-thats-worth-talking-about/
riversedge
(74,162 posts)will eventually win--and it will go to the SC.
Hekate
(96,033 posts)Everything is on the line. The commonalities are adults making personal decisions about who they love and about their sexual behavior, including contraception.
Alito referenced a 12th Century Christian monk and a 16th Century witch-hunting British jurist, and in a not at all final smack down of non-fanatics threw Roe back to the 50 states, letting States Rights rear its ugly head once again. Thomas, in his concurrence, must have looked in a mirror before deciding to leave Loving vs Virginia out.
So what's to stop another court from going after other unenumerated rights by employing the same legal framework that was used to overturn Roe v. Wade?
Justice Samuel Alito for one tries to allay that concern in the lead Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization opinion, taking care to distinguish abortion from other rights, only to have Justice Clarence Thomas pull the rug out.
In future cases, we should reconsider all of this Courts substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell, Thomas wrote in concurrence. Because any substantive due process decision is demonstrably erroneous, we have a duty to correct the error established in those precedents.
For court watchers, almost as notable as the hit list of cases the conservative justice explicitly names was the one he left out. Loving v. Virginia which in 1967 established a right to interracial marriage was cited by every other opinion in the Dobbs case when discussing substantive due process.
https://www.courthousenews.com/thomas-didnt-mention-interracial-marriage-and-thats-worth-talking-about/
riversedge
(74,162 posts)............
So what's to stop another court from going after other unenumerated rights by employing the same legal framework that was used to overturn Roe v. Wade?
Justice Samuel Alito for one tries to allay that concern in the lead Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization opinion, taking care to distinguish abortion from other rights, only to have Justice Clarence Thomas pull the rug out.
In future cases, we should reconsider all of this Courts substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell, Thomas wrote in concurrence. Because any substantive due process decision is demonstrably erroneous, we have a duty to correct the error established in those precedents.
For court watchers, almost as notable as the hit list of cases the conservative justice explicitly names was the one he left out. Loving v. Virginia which in 1967 established a right to interracial marriage was cited by every other opinion in the Dobbs case when discussing substantive due process
IdiotsforPalin
(190 posts)Is she still banging Mike Huckabee?
yardwork
(65,368 posts)malthaussen
(17,886 posts)There is something wrong with our justice system.
-- Mal
twodogsbarking
(12,599 posts)turbinetree
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DallasNE
(7,667 posts)When she ran for the office she knew that she would be required to take an oath that she knew she could not keep. She choose to break the oath and so there should be consequences and a jury said $100,000.