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Eugene

(63,594 posts)
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 10:46 AM Feb 11

Trump rolls back standards for water-using appliances, light bulbs

Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON, Feb 11 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump on Tuesday moved to revert to older standards for light bulbs as well as toilets, showers and other water-using appliances, a day after signing an order promoting plastic straws and rescinding a plan to reduce single-use plastics.

Trump said he would call on the Environmental Protection Agency to go back to water standards from his first White House term that would also affect sinks, washing machines and dishwashers.

In a post on his private social media platform, Trump wrote that he was directing EPA Secretary Lee Zeldin "to immediately go back to my Environmental Orders," calling them common sense.

"I look forward to signing these orders," Trump added.

-snip-

By Reuters
February 11, 2025 7:47 AM EST Updated 2 hours ago


Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-roll-back-appliance-light-bulb-standards-2025-02-11/



Alternate link: https://www.yahoo.com/news/finance/news/trump-roll-back-appliance-light-122050090.html
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Trump rolls back standards for water-using appliances, light bulbs (Original Post) Eugene Feb 11 OP
I feel a drought coming on sakabatou Feb 11 #1
Dirty Thirties dust bowl arriving early? To go along with DunceOld Hoover TrumPain economics? Bernardo de La Paz Feb 11 #5
He is also appointing a commission of Republicans to confirm that the light in the refrigerator stays on even when the twodogsbarking Feb 11 #2
It goes off? NT mahatmakanejeeves Feb 11 #11
That would be the Yahoodi Commission, yes? Backseat Driver Feb 11 #16
Really? Igel Feb 11 #22
I'm a NYC'r. Also lived in 2 strongly Jewish neighborhoods. I don't think I've ever heard (of)this word, definitely... electric_blue68 Feb 12 #24
Mad King Trump travelingthrulife Feb 11 #3
Yes! Yes! Doodles Feb 11 #4
Well, he damn sure knows what a toilet does. He wears them out like M @ M's chouchou Feb 11 #6
The rest of the world is laughing at American stupidity. From American exceptionalism to American stupidity in sinkingfeeling Feb 11 #7
Grr. City Lights Feb 11 #8
Some of this stuff has been in effect for almost 20 years BumRushDaShow Feb 11 #9
Are manufacturers really going to Ilsa Feb 11 #10
ROFLOL!! They'll ignore your ass on this one Trump Bengus81 Feb 11 #12
No thanks... Unique Like Everyone Feb 11 #13
How much freakin' ink does this cretin have? JohnnyRingo Feb 11 #14
I remember that like it was yesterday. Idiot Republicans bitching about LED light bulbs Bengus81 Feb 11 #20
Minor correction LovelyStuff Feb 11 #21
What a fucking moron. Vinca Feb 11 #15
Kerosine lanterns will be installed in The White Only House. twodogsbarking Feb 11 #17
not going to do anything he wants these to do 4catsmom Feb 11 #18
Three words that do not belong together lonely bird Feb 11 #19
Nobody has lower standards than Trump. milestogo Feb 11 #23
Nobody is going back to the old standards Deminpenn Feb 12 #25
So more electricity and higher bill..................... Lovie777 Feb 12 #26
So let's go back to forcing all documents The Madcap Feb 12 #27
What's next ? rickford66 Feb 12 #28
What the fuck does he know... purr-rat beauty Feb 12 #29
Lightbulbs Johnny2X2X Feb 12 #30

twodogsbarking

(12,961 posts)
2. He is also appointing a commission of Republicans to confirm that the light in the refrigerator stays on even when the
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 10:50 AM
Feb 11

door is closed.

Igel

(36,615 posts)
22. Really?
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 06:15 PM
Feb 11

"Yahoodi"?

In some parts of the Internet and population, that's just the Arabic adjective for "Jew" or "Jewish", sometimes borrowed into languages with Muslim speakers, and very often has a seriously derogatory meaning.

electric_blue68

(20,237 posts)
24. I'm a NYC'r. Also lived in 2 strongly Jewish neighborhoods. I don't think I've ever heard (of)this word, definitely...
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 12:57 AM
Feb 12
not in what it means, nor it derogatory connotation.

So if I who has certainly has heard much of the various negative stereotypes, and insulting words said against Jews hasn't heard of it; it's possible for others to not know this.

sinkingfeeling

(54,460 posts)
7. The rest of the world is laughing at American stupidity. From American exceptionalism to American stupidity in
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 11:18 AM
Feb 11

my lifetime.

City Lights

(25,575 posts)
8. Grr.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 11:46 AM
Feb 11

Only when the last tree has died, the last river been poisoned, and the last fish been caught will the GOP realize it cannot eat money.

BumRushDaShow

(148,645 posts)
9. Some of this stuff has been in effect for almost 20 years
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 11:51 AM
Feb 11

(the lightbulb standards were from a 2007 law (which has been updated/amended over the years but has pretty much stayed intact) despite his nonsense during the 1st term) -

H.R.6 - Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007

Similarly, and over 30 years ago, a law had been passed dealing with water usage standards -

H.R.776 - Energy Policy Act of 1992

These companies are not going to waste money rejiggering their manufacturing process every time he demands it.

Ilsa

(62,584 posts)
10. Are manufacturers really going to
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 11:53 AM
Feb 11

retrofit equipment to comply with much easier standards after complying with stricter standards for years? Are managers going to store newer install stuff that was headed to recycle.

Bengus81

(8,283 posts)
12. ROFLOL!! They'll ignore your ass on this one Trump
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 12:06 PM
Feb 11

Reminds me of when he told car makers to forget about CAFE standards and start making gas guzzlers again right before the election in 2020. NO ONE will buy incandescent bulbs so their electric bill can be even higher not to mention their short longevity.

I just did the math on just my garage lights (2) that are 100W LED's using 15W each and on for eight hours per night avg. I save $92.75 per year on my bill from just those TWO LIGHTS using LED bulbs. And of course people save even because they're not endlessly replacing those incandescent bulbs.

So....FUCK YOU TRUMP!!!

13. No thanks...
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 12:42 PM
Feb 11

I'll keep my Kohler 1.28 GPF with 360 swirl flush and my LED bulbs (Daylight) which are significantly brighter than incandescent and at the same time use 75% less electricity.

JohnnyRingo

(19,723 posts)
14. How much freakin' ink does this cretin have?
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 12:46 PM
Feb 11

He should at least have a cramp from undoing America.
The first time his new showerhead hits him, his toupee will be on the back wall.

I remember when low energy bulbs flooded the market thanx to govt subsidies. Pennsylvania Rep Michelle Bachmann gave all her relatives incandescent light bulbs for Christmas. I bet they got some use out of those. It was the stupidest thing I'd ever heard of then, but now she's watching as she holds DJT's beer.

Bengus81

(8,283 posts)
20. I remember that like it was yesterday. Idiot Republicans bitching about LED light bulbs
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 02:48 PM
Feb 11

for what reason? They were more expensive when they came out but their longevity made up for it.

It was more of the same,they didn't want Guberment telling them how to save money. Dammit!! I want to pay my energy company as much as possible!! I also want dirty water,air pollution and a coal plant near my home!!

4catsmom

(597 posts)
18. not going to do anything he wants these to do
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 01:51 PM
Feb 11

going to still use energy saving appliances. when you know better you do better.

Deminpenn

(16,606 posts)
25. Nobody is going back to the old standards
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 08:15 AM
Feb 12

Not consumers or manufacturers no matter how many EOs Trump issues.

Lovie777

(17,254 posts)
26. So more electricity and higher bill.....................
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 08:26 AM
Feb 12

also what is shithole musk republicans doing to lower the prices?

The Madcap

(1,023 posts)
27. So let's go back to forcing all documents
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 09:11 AM
Feb 12

To be chiseled into stone. Also, eliminate cars and revert to horses for transport. What is this moron "thinking?"

rickford66

(5,788 posts)
28. What's next ?
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 09:18 AM
Feb 12

Seat belts, tamperproof drug packaging, building codes and most pesky regulations ?

purr-rat beauty

(676 posts)
29. What the fuck does he know...
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 10:48 AM
Feb 12

...about appliances that use water and light bulbs?

he most likely has never touched nor operated either

Johnny2X2X

(22,519 posts)
30. Lightbulbs
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 11:16 AM
Feb 12

I remember the giant freakout over LEDs, even creeped onto DU . 'the color just is off, I don't like them." Today, no one would think of using an incandescent bulb in their house, they're wasteful and burn out way to fast.

We take it for granted that you don't have to change lightbulbs but once in a great while now. Moved into my current home 7-1/2 years ago, there are bulbs I've never even touched and there are ones that I will never replace. They last 50 times longer now.

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