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BumRushDaShow

(148,526 posts)
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 06:24 PM Feb 14

JD Vance Says U.S. Troops Fighting Russia In Ukraine Is 'On The Table' In Stunning Reversal

Source: MEDIAite

Feb 14th, 2025, 11:11 am


Vice President JD Vance told The Wall Street Journal on Thursday that the U.S. sending troops to fight Russia in Ukraine remained on “the table” – the latest stunning statement from inside the Trump administration on their strategy to end the war this week.

The Journal reported, “Vance said the option of sending U.S. troops to Ukraine if Moscow failed to negotiate in good faith remained ‘on the table,’ striking a far tougher tone than did Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who on Wednesday suggested the U.S. wouldn’t commit forces.”

Hegseth, the former Fox News morning show host, walked back comments he made during the NATO summit earlier in the week. On Thursday, he clarified that Ukraine joining NATO was still a possibility as part of peace negotiations — just a day after suggesting it was unlikely and argued that Europe should instead guarantee Ukraine’s security by building up its military capabilities. Hegseth also raised eyebrows across the globe by saying Ukraine returning to its pre-2014 borders was an “unrealistic” goal, effectively conceding territory to the invading Russians.

Senate Armed Services Chair Senator Roger Wicker (R-MS) sharply criticized Hegseth’s “rookie mistake” in making pre-negotiation concessions to Russia. Wicker, who shepherded Hegseth’s confirmation through his committee, told Politico that Hegseth’s comments sounded like “the kind of thing Tucker Carlson could have written.”

Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/news/jd-vance-says-u-s-troops-fighting-russia-in-ukraine-is-on-the-table-in-stunning-reversal/

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JD Vance Says U.S. Troops Fighting Russia In Ukraine Is 'On The Table' In Stunning Reversal (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 14 OP
What is he smoking?.............. Lovie777 Feb 14 #1
He is so stupid that I'm sure he probably meant to say fighting... Justice matters. Feb 15 #21
His word about anything is from a lying dog-faced pony soldier. He gins quotes for the occasion. marble falls Feb 14 #2
What? Lulu KC Feb 14 #3
Come to heel. GETTINGTIRED Feb 14 #4
After this, who would believe anything anyone in the Trump gang says about Ukraine? sop Feb 14 #5
Why would anyone have believed them on day #1? OKIsItJustMe Feb 14 #16
I feel his reasoning is to get American citizens to bluestarone Feb 14 #6
And he's never, ever told a lie plus justified repeating it either... littlemissmartypants Feb 14 #7
What is he saying? bucolic_frolic Feb 14 #8
I'll file this under the "them immigunts is eatin' y'alls pets!!11!!11!1" PSPS Feb 14 #9
Might need a few return to a military draft. multigraincracker Feb 14 #10
Hope they like barracks rooms that smell like a hot box! Crowman2009 Feb 14 #13
But seriously though, the military will turn into the last years of US involvement in Vietnam. Crowman2009 Feb 14 #14
The only way that would happen DENVERPOPS Feb 14 #11
A lot of them are so eager to be in heaven that they'll deliberatly jump out of a foxhole and look to the sky. Crowman2009 Feb 14 #17
He doesn't even seem to talk to Trump. iemanja Feb 14 #12
Remember: Every day is an opportunity Turbineguy Feb 14 #15
WHAT????? Daleuhlmann Feb 14 #18
I sure as hell wouldn't take orders from some god damn desk jockey HQ squadron corporal! Crowman2009 Feb 14 #19
"Rookie mistakes" are an essential qualification to protect us from DEI IronLionZion Feb 14 #20
I suspect good faith doesn't include Russia withdrawing and offering to pay reparations. cstanleytech Feb 15 #22
Neither Vance nor Hegseth has any idea about Deminpenn Feb 15 #23
The Clown Car Has Arrived DallasNE Feb 15 #24
I'd expect to see them fighting against Ukraine before I'd expect to see that. malthaussen Feb 15 #25
Yeah - wondering if he meant to say... regnaD kciN Feb 15 #26
Gee, maybe the steady leadership Biden provided wasn't so bad after all. Bleacher Creature Feb 15 #27
"Negotiate in good faith"? The orange blob will never do that. louis-t Feb 15 #28

Lovie777

(17,223 posts)
1. What is he smoking?..............
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 06:26 PM
Feb 14

anyways, that is to frighten Americans into giving into putin.

Justice matters.

(8,079 posts)
21. He is so stupid that I'm sure he probably meant to say fighting...
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 02:55 AM
Feb 15

with Russian soldiers against Ukraine soldiers.

Remember when TSFCF approved what Putin told him after his secret meeting with the war criminal in Helsinki, then he walked it back the next day after the widespread disapprovals in the medias?

The left hand doesn't know what the right hand does and they both don't care as long as billions come their way!

OKIsItJustMe

(21,196 posts)
16. Why would anyone have believed them on day #1?
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 07:14 PM
Feb 14

It’s part of an intentional campaign of confusion.

bluestarone

(19,098 posts)
6. I feel his reasoning is to get American citizens to
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 06:32 PM
Feb 14

go against Zelenzky. I can just see it, Oh No not war against russia. That's the plan i bet.

littlemissmartypants

(26,780 posts)
7. And he's never, ever told a lie plus justified repeating it either...
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 06:33 PM
Feb 14

Does he think that we're all as dumb as his boss?

Good Lord!

Hahahahahahaha!

❤️

bucolic_frolic

(49,111 posts)
8. What is he saying?
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 06:39 PM
Feb 14

He plans to strong arm Putin?? We're in for a nuclear showdown if this is fouled up.

Crowman2009

(2,983 posts)
13. Hope they like barracks rooms that smell like a hot box!
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 07:05 PM
Feb 14

BTW, a hot box is when you seal the doors and windows, then proceed to fill the room with weed smoke.

Crowman2009

(2,983 posts)
14. But seriously though, the military will turn into the last years of US involvement in Vietnam.
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 07:09 PM
Feb 14

People are going to get high, nazis & Confederate flag wavers are going to get punched (which they deserve), and a few uber-MAGA christo-facist platoon leaders are going to get fragged.

On a side note, let's sing a song:

DENVERPOPS

(11,236 posts)
11. The only way that would happen
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 06:49 PM
Feb 14

is if they rounded up a big bunch of Trumphumping loyal U.S. military soldiers, and sent them over to covertly spy and report back to Trump/Putin what the Ukraine military is doing.....

Crowman2009

(2,983 posts)
17. A lot of them are so eager to be in heaven that they'll deliberatly jump out of a foxhole and look to the sky.
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 07:20 PM
Feb 14

Daleuhlmann

(392 posts)
18. WHAT?????
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 07:40 PM
Feb 14

Vance sounded like he'd been told to do damage control for Hegsweth. I think we all know who is the real ventriloquist behind these two puppets!

Crowman2009

(2,983 posts)
19. I sure as hell wouldn't take orders from some god damn desk jockey HQ squadron corporal!
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 08:16 PM
Feb 14

Especially since I was in close proximity to that fucker in Iraq.

cstanleytech

(27,470 posts)
22. I suspect good faith doesn't include Russia withdrawing and offering to pay reparations.
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 05:22 AM
Feb 15

As well as turn over anyone for war crimes.

Deminpenn

(16,603 posts)
23. Neither Vance nor Hegseth has any idea about
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 08:21 AM
Feb 15

how little real industrial capacity the US has to fight and sustain a war.

DallasNE

(7,708 posts)
24. The Clown Car Has Arrived
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 01:28 PM
Feb 15

Last edited Sat Feb 15, 2025, 06:14 PM - Edit history (1)

It was Trump himself that put things in motion when he revealed that he called Putin and they had a 90-minute conversation that was mostly about Ukraine. The details Trump shared showed him throwing Ukraine under the bus by giving Putin pretty much everything he wanted. When the backlash was strong Hegseth stepped in and doubled down, making matters worse. VP Vance then stepped in and reversed everything the other two had said, even going so far as to say that American troops on the ground were on the table. Who told Vance to make this statement? I doubt it was Trump himself. Was it Gen. Kellogg (ret) that is Trump's point man on all things Ukraine?

But where was the one person with direct responsibility to be found and here I am talking about our Secretary of State Rubio? Process should matter but not with this gang that can't get together and communicate a unified message. Instead, it is diplomacy by clown car.

malthaussen

(18,009 posts)
25. I'd expect to see them fighting against Ukraine before I'd expect to see that.
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 04:50 PM
Feb 15

The way DJT kisses up to Vlad, a US Expeditionary Force to support his just cause seems like a great idea. And please, don't tell me the US People or the politicians wouldn't stand for it. Susan Collins would express "concern" and vote to use tactical nukes against Ukraine if she was told to.

This Administration really does seem to be at loggerheads with itself. Unfortunately, Elon Musk has a consistent vision and the energy to actually see it through.

-- Mal

Bleacher Creature

(11,492 posts)
27. Gee, maybe the steady leadership Biden provided wasn't so bad after all.
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 05:03 PM
Feb 15

It's obvious what's going on here. Trump got played by Putin (again), and he, Vance, and Hegseth go out and make statements that clearly show Trump's capitulation. So to prove that they are not weak, Vance goes out and makes the most provocative statement any American has made since the war started.

louis-t

(24,026 posts)
28. "Negotiate in good faith"? The orange blob will never do that.
Sat Feb 15, 2025, 05:59 PM
Feb 15

Yet he expects everyone else to. A drunk and a lunatic who is on his 3rd alias walk into a bar.......

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