Furious Trump Sics Musk on Boeing to Deliver New Air Force One Jets
Source: Daily Beast
Updated Feb. 23 2025 3:49AM EST | Published Feb. 22 2025 7:06PM EST
A furious President Donald Trump has deputized Elon Musk to badger Boeing into delivering two new Air Force One jetsa project that has been been derailed by PR nightmares and technical issues, according to a report. The president has urged Musk to take drastic measures, such as rolling back security clearance standards for those working on the presidential planes, The New York Times reported earlier this week.
According to several inside sources, Trump is reportedly livid about having to fly in the same presidential planes that have been in use for more than 30 years, dating back to George H.W. Bushs term. Trump has pushed for the new planes to have a patriotic red, white, and blue color schemerather than the current light blue and white colordespite thermal issues raised by the dark blue.
During his four years out of office, Trump kept a model version of the new presidential jet in his office at Mar-a-Lago, the Times reported. Theyve been building this thing forever, Trump said during his joint Fox News interview with Musk this week. I dont know whats going on. Boeing originally signed the contract for the project in 2018, during Trumps first term. The jets were supposed to be ready for use in 2024. It now looks as if they wont be finished until near the end of Trumps second stint in office.
The endeavor has been beset by a series of disasters. On the PR side, the company has dealt with lapsed security clearances for its workers and an instance where empty tequila bottles were found onboard one of the planes. In one technical setback, the team working on the project had to repair tiny cracks discovered in the structures for the two planes. The COVID pandemic also contributed to the delays by making it harder to find workers and causing supply-chain issues.
Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/furious-trump-sics-musk-on-boeing-to-deliver-new-air-force-one-jets/

LearnedHand
(4,489 posts)
Rebl2
(15,627 posts)DENVERPOPS
(10,918 posts)Cut as many corners as on the 737's...............Maybe use the same defective auto pilot vertical stabilization system used on the 737-800? (that they didn't tell the pilots about)........
Actually it is PUTIN pushing on Trump to get it done. The new plane has Blue White and Red horizontal stripes.
Co-incidentally just like the Russian Flag......
forgotmylogin
(7,745 posts)Rebl2
(15,627 posts)Attilatheblond
(5,178 posts)What could possibly go wrong?
nilram
(3,076 posts)At least, I hope he will.
lonely bird
(2,102 posts)The window will blow off with him sitting there with no seatbelt?
Im sorry, did I say that out loud?
Rebl2
(15,627 posts)hear what you said.
lonely bird
(2,102 posts)😉😁
niyad
(122,224 posts)Response to Attilatheblond (Reply #2)
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Bayard
(24,289 posts)Yes, have them inspected by Musk's little minions to cut costs and raise efficiency.
Irish_Dem
(64,295 posts)After all, taxpayers will cover all the costs.
MadameButterfly
(2,491 posts)will pay for it. The new plane will have nice colors (Russian). Ok for the next 4 years but then we'll need another one that actually keeps POTUS safe.
VMA131Marine
(4,851 posts)I suspect they will lose even more than $1 billion
For comparison a Ford-class carrier costs $13 billion
A Standard Boeing 747-8I cost around $400 million. Of course they are no longer in production which is why Boeing had to start with aircraft that had already built for Transaero, who went bankrupt before they could be delivered. It probably would have been cheaper to have started with complete new builds for the new VC-25Bs as there would have been a lot of work in ripping out an reconfiguring existing systems to meet the contract requirements for security, durability, and survivability.
SeattleVet
(5,642 posts)The 747 line was still operational when the order was originated, but someone decided that it would be cheaper to retrofit the existing airframes. (It wasn't.)
All wiring throughout the airframe had to be removed and replaced with hardened materials to help mitigate EMP. There was also a whole shit-ton of rework required to meet the security and safety criteria. There were also several changes that the Orange Turd demanded during his first mis-administration ...like removing the mid-air refueling capability. Many of the things he demanded be removed required a lot of additional deconstruction and reconstruction. The dark paint scheme he mandated also screws with the thermal characteristics.
A lot of the extra costs were his own damn fault. And now they are actually talking about 'retrofitting' other existing airframes to serve as the presidential aircraft, which will incur additional untold costs just to meet the security and survivability criteria, n to to mention the communications and defensive attributes that are in the current aircraft. It's obvious that this idiot has no concept whatsoever about what is actually involved in this type of manufacture.
Wifes husband
(305 posts)Why was the mid air refueling capability eliminated?
VMA131Marine
(4,851 posts)Ocelot II
(123,084 posts)Trump shouldn't have to be inconvenienced by bothersome roadblocks like checking to be sure all the parts are where they should be, tools weren't left inside the engines, and FAA inspections (since the FAA won't have enough inspectors anyhow). Speed tape works fine for a lot of things. Get 'em put together and out the door ASAP; just try not to fly them over populated areas.
test run with Vance, Trump and musk on board? What do you think.
MadameButterfly
(2,491 posts)willl have to use it. Oh, wait, the very existence of a next POTUS would be a good thing. Never mind.
Buddyzbuddy
(362 posts)Do we know where Hegseth has been?
orangecrush
(23,179 posts)genxlib
(5,796 posts)Just because he doesn't care, doesn't mean that future presidents won't.
If we aren't careful, Russian microphones will be everywhere.
On a completely different subject, this is yet another huge conflict of interest for Musk. Boeing and SpaceEx are competitors for federal contracts. Anything he does to undermine Boeing is of enormous benefit to him.
orangecrush
(23,179 posts)Would fly in it.
WestMichRad
(2,048 posts)
theyre harmless!
Polybius
(19,196 posts)I actually find that quite surprising. I would have thought that Air Force One would have been much newer.
Deminpenn
(16,536 posts)undergo maintenance, repair, modifications or upgrades, they use all new parts for the job.
NotHardly
(1,647 posts)

niyad
(122,224 posts)LearnedHand
(4,489 posts)Just wondering how many need to be on that flight.
MadameButterfly
(2,491 posts)in the midterms, then just 2.
SarcasticSatyr
(1,309 posts)I would be ok with maybe them skipping every third bolt . . . .
in2herbs
(3,499 posts)in air White House.
Maybe F47 wants a new plane so that when he flees the country he can do so using a new plane with security technology that will appease Putin.
EarthFirst
(3,435 posts)
he picked them up in Saudi Arabia last week.
DOGE approved efficiency!
thesquanderer
(12,491 posts)tinymontgomery
(2,773 posts)Emrys
(8,242 posts)His strategy at SpaceX is that rapid unscheduled disassemblies are valuable learning moments and not to be shunned or mourned. Maybe he'll move fast and break things.
All these backup systems - are they really necessary?
Wings? That's so 20th-century.
slightlv
(4,877 posts)Let trump feel the effect of his rulings directly. Of all the planes currently falling out of the skies right now, I think this is one that could really do us some good. trump is too stupid and egotistical to realize that some things can't be speeded up if you want it done right, and being done right is a matter of life and death. So, give him a life-learning lesson!
Deminpenn
(16,536 posts)delivers it tomorrow.
FakeNoose
(36,654 posts)What's the big deal ... he's the "richest man in the world." Am I right?
bucolic_frolic
(48,783 posts)Would you fly in that thing?
jeffreyi
(2,252 posts)marble falls
(63,383 posts)... Lord do not let anyone get seriously hurt because of the South Afrikan poster boy for the Dunning Kruger Effect being an even worse aeronautical engineer than he is automotive engineer. Or running a tunneling company. Or running a social network.
IA8IT
(6,050 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(119,067 posts)I live in the city where the 747 is manufactured. Come to Everett and enjoy some hospitality from the locals.
BumRushDaShow
(147,532 posts)(and eventually went across into Canada to Vancouver)
Boeing and Microsoft all over the damn place and the whole area is nothing but A LOT of trees! Just billions of acres of conifers.
mtngirl47
(1,134 posts)Figarosmom
(4,531 posts)And just let it go down with him on it.
He asked for it.
Aussie105
(6,753 posts)Trump should buy a season Amtrak ticket.
Leave security at home.
Money saved, DOGE team will love the idea!
MadameButterfly
(2,491 posts)(and $2 ea. for his security detail)
NBachers
(18,311 posts)If only I had the Photoshop skills to reproduce what's in my head.
Augiedog
(2,606 posts)RockRaven
(16,869 posts)and delivery of c) current Boeing aircraft.
That is actually a GREAT idea. A+B+C = very stable genius thinking.
Bigly brained very good idea, sir, with tears in eyes.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,103 posts)What could go wrong?
"I am the new supervisor in charge of installing Top Secret communications equipment in the airplane, comrade. Could you show me where the classified documents are located? It's Mar-a-Lago? I'll have Ivan take care of it -- he works the front desk checking in 'guests.' "
Klarkashton
(2,956 posts)Shit if passing this along to that other asshole?
Initech
(103,707 posts)Holy shit, this 78 year old toddler is going to kill a whole lot of us!