'Somebody has to go down': Trump allies take aim at Michael Waltz
Source: NBC News
March 26, 2025, 8:55 PM EDT
A growing number of Donald Trump’s allies are calling on the president to fire his national security adviser, Michael Waltz, to try to mitigate the political fallout from revelations that the nation’s top defense officials discussed sensitive military operations in a commercial app — and inadvertently included a journalist in their chat group.
According to screenshots published by The Atlantic, a Signal user named “Michael Waltz” initially invited Jeffrey Goldberg, the magazine’s editor in chief, into the conversation on the app Signal. The group, according to The Atlantic, appears to have included Vice President JD Vance, several other members of the Cabinet involved in national security issues, Trump chief of staff Susie Wiles and deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller. Some of the people were identified only by their initials.
Trump and his aides have insisted that none of the information about strikes against Yemeni Houthis — a group the United States has designated as a foreign terrorist organization — was classified when Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth shared it with the group.
On Wednesday, however, Trump was less definitive. "That’s what I’ve heard. I don’t know. I’m not sure. You have to ask the various people involved. I really don’t know," Trump replied when reporters asked him whether still believes nothing classified was shared.
Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-allies-take-aim-michael-waltz-rcna198289

C_U_L8R
(46,820 posts)When none of them should have been on Signal in the first place. And what have they done to ensure the country that they are never on Signal or other covert messaging platform or burner device again?
femmedem
(8,500 posts)Bengus81
(8,448 posts)That's really,really secure.........
AllaN01Bear
(24,432 posts)blue-wave
(4,539 posts)Every high ranking holder with national security clearance, who have a duty to protect us all, know better. Not one of them should have been in that chat.
wyn borkins
(1,175 posts)Simply based upon the massive administration obfuscation thus far, why not let the entire fiasco simply slide (as is) directly into the history books.
Implicate no one (as in, move along, nothing to see here).
Ray Bruns
(5,086 posts)
Bengus81
(8,448 posts)starts throwing his ass kissing loyalists under the bus.
Baitball Blogger
(49,611 posts)And Tulsi and Ratcliffe need to face perjury charges, because the next time might not be as clear as this one was.
Hugin
(35,946 posts)The non-participant always gets the fishing trip in the cheesy mob flicks.
magicarpet
(17,861 posts)... tha alternate avenues of communication should be used by Team trDUMP,... like the signal app.
This scheme was encouraged as a method for Team trDUMP to avoid any future FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) & PRA (Presidential Records Act requests to see the day to day documents about the workings of our government.
The Heritage Foundation recommended the use of unclassified public internet applications such as Signal for their internal communications. Being that Signal has an expiration mode where the communication can be made to poof disappear from any records of having ever happened because the communications electronically erase and disappear on a preset expiration/ erase time clock preset by the communicans. Thus no record of the comminication exists or records of action taken any longer exists.
Try making a FOIA request for something that does not exist. You get zip,.. zero,... and zilch. Just what The Heritage Foundation wanted - presidential secrecy behind a three foot thick stone wall. No transparency,.. no oversite,... and no public input or review. Bye bye American Democracy,... hello drowning in chest deep Fascism.
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If the documents don't exist the crime never happened. Just erase your fingerprints and footprints from the scene of the crime,.. then you are golden.
The Presidential Records Act (PRA; 44 U.S.C. §§2201-2209) set forth requirements regarding the maintenance, access, and preservation of presidential and vice presidential information during and after a presidency.
Hugin
(35,946 posts)Remember those? Yeah, nobody does.
neohippie
(1,221 posts)Violates the Federal Records Act as well 44 U.S.C Chapter 31
The Federal Records Act (FRA), enacted in 1950 and codified in 44 U.S.C. Chapter 31, establishes the framework for federal records management, requiring agencies to create, maintain, and dispose of records accurately and efficiently, ensuring the preservation of vital historical, fiscal, and legal information for public access and accountability
louis-t
(24,114 posts)administration in the history of the world'.
IronLionZion
(48,219 posts)so it looks like they'll throw Michael Waltz under the bus since he's the main screw up for this incident. But really they need to stop using Signal.
johnnyfins
(1,883 posts)"I don't know" is not an answer. WTF?
YodaMom2
(78 posts)If it makes him look bad, he doesn’t know anything about it. If he thinks it makes him look good, he knows *everything* about, more than anyone else. (Remember “I know more than the generals”?)
Dulcinea
(8,091 posts)But I doubt he will. This loser's in waaayyy over his head, & he knows it.
Historic NY
(38,704 posts)Renew Deal
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BumRushDaShow
(149,756 posts)But now they are in a quandary about going on and filing suit against The Atlantic for (allegedly) "releasing 'classified information'" (in quotes) and how they "should have known".
patphil
(7,583 posts)I think it was done to blow the lid off the whole idea of using Signal as a means of covert communication between high ranking Administration officials. I'm sure Signal is used all the time by these people to prevent any permanent record of their conversations from being made. Project 2025 suggested this means of covert communication.
We know it's not an accident. The idea of Mr Goldberg, senior editor of The Atlantic, being invited to this sensitive chat group by mistake is simply ridiculous.
Look to see if any member(s) of the chat group get fired. That might be an indicator of who it was. I understand there were actually 19 members of the group, but I don't think the identities of all of them have been revealed.
This is a much bigger scandal than anything Hillary Clinton was excoriated for.
louis-t
(24,114 posts)But in fact, they really, really are that stupid.
patphil
(7,583 posts)to blow the whistle on their operation.
There is no chance this was an accident. None!
This wasn't more of the same stupid we've been seeing in the Trump Administration.
This was deliberate.
orangecrush
(23,908 posts).crossed my mind not long after the story broke.
Somebody was fed up with their shit.
bronxiteforever
(10,222 posts)
louis-t
(24,114 posts)then it will be back to business as usual. Protect der fuhrer at all cost. Rape, pillage, plunder.
Deminpenn
(16,672 posts)Dems can't be satisfied with just one person fired or resigning. It has to be the whole nest of them.
Docreed2003
(18,125 posts)While ignoring the fact that USING THE DAMN APP IN THE FIRST PLACE IS A HUGE BREWCH OF OPSEC, is absolutely infuriating and sadly, this kind of crap is on brand for Trump.
bmichaelh
(757 posts)Problem with this strategy in the long run is that there will be a lot of replacements because there will be many scandals in part due to incompetence and malevolence.
Rebl2
(15,970 posts)they will go after him
sakabatou
(44,395 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(11,113 posts)thought crime
(43 posts)I doubt anyone will take the fall. They will just stonewall / gaslight until the press moves on to the next distraction. But it’s certainly a big mask-off moment. Trump has surrounded himself with another cast of clowns like the ones he did before Jan 6.
No one selected by trump can be taken seriously.
Montauk6
(8,975 posts)According to Fox News, everything is fine and Hunter Biden's laptop. PIZZA-PIZZA!!
AdamGG
(1,651 posts)that they'll drop Waltz for being dufus enough to add the Atlantic editor, and the fact that the Dump administration has moved wholesale to using private apps rather than government communication systems to avoid accountability will get largely overlooked.
Karasu
(842 posts)And they know as much, but refuse to entertain the thought.
poozwah
(302 posts)going down to get a job usually end up this way.
COL Mustard
(7,309 posts)It kind of reminds me of all those scandals during Obama's terms, or during Biden's term. You know, like......well, maybe nothing.
johnnyfins
(1,883 posts)Underling added Jeffrey Goldberg to the chat because he/she hates the admin amd disagrees with all of the chaos?
BGRD
(14 posts)Most likely it was a screw-up by these right wing "MERIT hires" ??? from the from the right wing special needs college. Just a suggestion but did they invite the wrong Goldberg to the "chat". I just wonder if they confused Jeffrey Goldberg from the Atlantic and Jonah Goldberg the right wing political pundit from National Review.