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riversedge

(75,204 posts)
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 07:20 AM Mar 29

Canadian Lawmaker Spots 'Something Deeper' Brewing Amid Trump's Trade War

Source: msn




Story by Ben Blanchet • 5h


Canadian lawmaker Charlie Angus................

Angus, when asked by Ben Meiselas of the MeidasTouch Network if Trump is “scared” by how Canada and the EU have responded to his plans of further tariffs, spotted “something deeper” brewing in America that Canadians are focused on: “watching our nearest neighbor slip into totalitarianism.”

“When we see people being pulled off the streets, when we see people at universities being grabbed, detained, rendered and kidnapped, and when we see Kristi Noem doing this really disgusting video in front of half-naked men in an overcrowded El Salvadorian prison cell,” Angus said.

“We’re looking at a nation that we don’t understand anymore and we don’t want to be like that nation and we’re thinking, ‘If we go down the road with this regime, we’re talking about the disappearance of the rule of law.’”

Angus — a fierce critic of the U.S. president — argued that if America can’t respect the “rule of law” of its citizens then how could people expect the country to respect international law.

“And it certainly doesn’t respect us as Canada,” he added.




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Canadian Lawmaker Spots 'Something Deeper' Brewing Amid Trump's Trade War (Original Post) riversedge Mar 29 OP
Canada doesn't want to become like the US, ruled by Russian Nazis. Irish_Dem Mar 29 #1
Charlie Angus is great Easterncedar Mar 29 #2
Being inside this proverbial pot of warming water is frightening enough. Bumbles Mar 29 #3
And such a long border to defend. erronis Mar 29 #16
Yes, Charlie, we know. 😟 ShazzieB Mar 29 #4
Exactly! I want to say, yeah, dude, we're freaking living it! paleotn Mar 29 #12
I'm a 75 year old geezer. I'm mystified where the younger generations who are SO connected NoMoreRepugs Mar 29 #5
The majority aren't paying attention to anything important. Silver Gaia Mar 29 #13
I think a lot of them Hornedfrog2000 Mar 29 #15
No they aren't Cirsium Mar 29 #20
Once we go to war with former allies, it may take a draft to wake them up n/t AntiFascist Mar 29 #21
Saturday, April 5, HANDS OFF protest rallies across the nation. Let's see how many turn out and their ages. wnylib Mar 29 #22
Europe needs to understand what the Canadians seem to realized. We are not an ally. * 617Blue Mar 29 #6
USA and Canada were allies a short time ago, and we will be again Martin Eden Mar 29 #8
A European leader said it best during the election... 617Blue Mar 29 #18
As I recall, the NATO Charter was invoked only once: Martin Eden Mar 29 #19
Even US citizens are no longer safe. Lonestarblue Mar 29 #7
Scary times my friends Bayard Mar 29 #9
It is staggering... GiqueCee Mar 29 #11
Plantation mentality . . . leanforward Mar 29 #28
Musk said those who are vandalizing the Tesla cars could be sent to a prison in El Salvador. NH Ethylene Mar 29 #24
Got that right. I'm looking at a nation I don't understand anymore and I freaking live here. paleotn Mar 29 #10
I don't think that's deep at all Beck23 Mar 29 #14
I agree. Even stupid people should be able to see that Trump's words and actions are devastating to the US. patphil Mar 29 #17
Donald Trump 'recruited by KGB in 80s and even has codename', claims former Soviet spy Justice matters. Mar 29 #23
Yes, he is a traitor, and yes, he's been lucky...so far. patphil Mar 29 #27
I don't support Trump obviously BrianTheEVGuy Mar 29 #25
Can you show us this "celebrating" or "support"? muriel_volestrangler Mar 29 #26
Thankful for these comments DaBronx Mar 29 #29

Bumbles

(370 posts)
3. Being inside this proverbial pot of warming water is frightening enough.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 07:48 AM
Mar 29

It must be extremely frightening to look in and see and know what is happening to your formerly neighborly neighbor and be helpless to do anything about it.

ShazzieB

(20,360 posts)
4. Yes, Charlie, we know. 😟
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 08:09 AM
Mar 29
Angus, when asked by Ben Meiselas of the MeidasTouch Network if Trump is “scared” by how Canada and the EU have responded to his plans of further tariffs, spotted “something deeper” brewing in America that Canadians are focused on: “watching our nearest neighbor slip into totalitarianism.”


Believe me, we know.

NoMoreRepugs

(11,233 posts)
5. I'm a 75 year old geezer. I'm mystified where the younger generations who are SO connected
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 08:58 AM
Mar 29

through social apps to EVERYTHING that is happening EVERYWHERE are in all this. I don’t see college campus protests or hear about gigantic “movements” happening online. Are they waiting ONCE AGAIN for the BOOMERS to lead them by the hand and rescue their future???

WTheSeriousFUCK people, we can hardly get around anymore.

Silver Gaia

(5,052 posts)
13. The majority aren't paying attention to anything important.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 09:54 AM
Mar 29

Nor do the majority have a shred of critical thinking skills. They are tuned primarily into entertainment and sports news, fashion and makeup trends, etc. and only "see" their algorithmically created bubble on social media: primarily friends, influencers, and celebrities they follow.

Ask them where they get their news? They will tell you they get all they need to know from influencers they follow on TikTok. Politics? They say they don't concern themselves with that. It's not something they care about. Too depressing. Seriously.

This is the reality created for them by the TechBros who created and manipulate social media technology. So, they are absolutely not connected to EVERYTHING, only to a limited bubble of their own shallow creation. By design. They do not think deeply about much of anything. They serve their purpose as consumers.

How do I know this? I try to teach them how to use critical thinking. These are things they tell me. It ain't easy. I reach a few, but I know it's only a small dent. And now many use AI to do their homework for them, so who knows how much they are actually learning. THAT is the grim and depressing reality of what I'd say is the majority of the youngest of our younger generations, the ones who have never known a world without social media. It IS their limited reality.

Hornedfrog2000

(134 posts)
15. I think a lot of them
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 10:01 AM
Mar 29

See this as your generation did this. You also are the most loyal voting segment, to republicans. WTF indeed.

Cirsium

(2,363 posts)
20. No they aren't
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 12:53 PM
Mar 29

"Boomers" are not the most loyal Republican voting segment. Where did that myth come from? Yes, older people from every generation skew Republican. Know why? Because rich white people live longer and rich white people tend to vote Republican.

Martin Eden

(14,176 posts)
8. USA and Canada were allies a short time ago, and we will be again
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 09:18 AM
Mar 29

But I don't think our longtime allies will ever trust American voters again.

I certainly don't.

617Blue

(1,902 posts)
18. A European leader said it best during the election...
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 10:57 AM
Mar 29

Not sure who said it but basically it was - we can't sit around waiting for voters in Wisconsin to determine Europe's future security.

Americans are ignorant as to how NATO has protected us.

Martin Eden

(14,176 posts)
19. As I recall, the NATO Charter was invoked only once:
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 12:51 PM
Mar 29

After 9/11 when multiple nations (including Canada) fought and died with us in Afghanistan.

Whether or not GW's invasion and 20 year military engagement in that country was intelligent or moral is a separate topic.

Lonestarblue

(12,563 posts)
7. Even US citizens are no longer safe.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 09:14 AM
Mar 29

CPB is forcing travelers entering the US to unlock their phones and computers so agents can read their social media posts, messages, and email to find comments critical of Trump. If you’re a foreign traveler, you are denied entry. But what happens if you’re a US citizen? How long before the CPB goes after citizens critical of Trump? The first citizen targets re-entering the US are likely to be minorities and those with Hispanic or unusual names that to ICE would look un-American since “real” Americans only have white names like John Smith or Mary Edwards.

A recent article described how travelers to the US should backup their files and delete all messages, social media posts, email, and searches that are critical of Trump before traveling to the US. The writer recommended not deleting other messages or using a burner phone because that would arouse suspicion. We are in crazy new territory here where no one is safe.

Bayard

(24,788 posts)
9. Scary times my friends
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 09:36 AM
Mar 29

I'm only on DU on my old desktop. I'm in trouble if they start seizing those. I'm sure there's already people spying on every left-leaning website.

GiqueCee

(2,149 posts)
11. It is staggering...
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 09:50 AM
Mar 29

... that we find ourselves at the mercy of a petulant child whose overinflated ego is so fragile, and his mindset so pitifully transactional, that he thinks it's perfectly reasonable to demand that a governor say nice things about him on Sunday morning blather shows in exchange for federal disaster assistance. And he's pushing the limits to see what he can get away with when he orders his goons to detain legal permanent residents who don't toe the approved political line, or who just have some tattoos, and threatens the funding of universities over his obscenely bigoted DEI edicts.
As distressing as his performative politics are, what's more distressing by several orders of magnitude is the undeniable fact that Trump is just the Court Jester, distracting attention away from what his REALLY evil puppeteers are up to. The Heritage Foundation is a domestic terrorist organization, and you'd better be watching those fuckers like a mouse trying to escape the talons of a hawk.
If you read the Project 2025 – only a little at a time, or your blood pressure will blow the top of your head off – you'll start to get an inkling of what absolute monsters these people really are. They all have more money than they could spend in 20 lifetimes, but they still want yours, and total dominion over your life while they're at it. And they are NEVER satisfied.

leanforward

(1,105 posts)
28. Plantation mentality . . .
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 08:54 PM
Mar 29

then add monopoly thoughts from the 1900s (the railroads across America).
Then, this freedom of speech “restrictions” , yes there is a right to be concerned. The Canadian points it out well.
I have not read the Project 25. I read with critical thought of others comment. What I have picked up on is pre 19th Amendment for many, then pre 1865 for all of us.
Time to reverse Citizens United or something like that or let us get back to “ . of the people, by the people, and for the people . . “.
No where does it say billionaires or corporations! ! !

NH Ethylene

(31,106 posts)
24. Musk said those who are vandalizing the Tesla cars could be sent to a prison in El Salvador.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 07:09 PM
Mar 29

I'm betting they are all or mostly US citizens committing these crimes - which are fairly petty.

paleotn

(20,295 posts)
10. Got that right. I'm looking at a nation I don't understand anymore and I freaking live here.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 09:48 AM
Mar 29

I'd caveat that though. I don't understand PARTS of this nation. My part? I understand. We haven't changed. California, Oregon, Washington, Maryland, Hawaii? Still under rule of law. The "red' parts? Absolutely not.

Though I agree with Angus on the surface, they need to understand, this is a tale of two Americas. The Blue parts didn't do this. Nor are we going to stand for it one way or another.

patphil

(7,718 posts)
17. I agree. Even stupid people should be able to see that Trump's words and actions are devastating to the US.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 10:18 AM
Mar 29

It's as if he's working for Russia to destroy the United States, and weaken Europe.
And, he is.

BrianTheEVGuy

(697 posts)
25. I don't support Trump obviously
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 07:20 PM
Mar 29

But Charlie Angus is an outspoken Hamas supporter. It’s a bit rich of him to call out people being pulled off the streets in America while celebrating people being murdered in their homes by Hamas.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,488 posts)
26. Can you show us this "celebrating" or "support"?
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 07:28 PM
Mar 29

I can show you him condemning the crimes of Hamas:

History was made tonight.
Parliament voted for an immediate ceasefire,
and end to arms funding to Israel,
a denunciation of the crimes of Hamas and Israel, calling out settlers violence,
a return of the hostages
and work towards recognition of Palestinian state.
Thanks to #NDP


DaBronx

(694 posts)
29. Thankful for these comments
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 09:05 PM
Mar 29

I feel it’s so important for Americans to hear these comments from our old allies. It carries weight and comes from outside the chaotic bubble we are in. Important reality assessment.
Oh Canada, we are so sorry.

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