Christ, I hate these bastards.

I think there's something in the GOP energy (based
chiefly on greed) that turns people into monsters.

Radix malorum est cupiditas.

….. Russia’s help in 2016. Thomas should have never gotten out of the Senate too. 3
other women were ready to testify that Thomas had done the same sort of behavior
to them that he did to Anita Hill but were blocked from testifying too.

The GOP knows that demographically they are under water so they have had a long
term program to control America via the courts.

These guys don't study history. They don't know about Stalin, Caligula, the French Revolution. They don't know that power corrupts, or that this corruption will be turned against them, too.

And the rich power brokers in the GOP are just as dumb about this as the uneducated masses.

What does Putin have on that creep?

Originalist lying sack of crap.

He should have issued penalties to the idiots that sent him illegally in the first place.

rights.

Roberts is a Handmaiden to tyranny.

El Salvador did something to this guy.

extra time to kill him. Neither Trump nor El Salvador are going to allow him back in the country where he can talk to the press.

Roberts has his orders.

Since he fled El Salvador with acceptance into the US, he might have been in danger if he remained there. I have been wondering all along if the reason for resisting arranging his return was because he was no longer living.

Was there a political reason he came to the US?

Bullets might be cheaper than prison food. For all of the evacuees.

Is because he was being targeted by a Salvadorian gang, and his life was in eminent danger.
Therefore, yea... he's likely dead. That's why they are pretending they have no power to bring him back. What they mean is... no power to bring him back to life. And of course Roberts is called upon to give cover.

it's truly got me convinced something has happened to him already, and they're desperate to keep the public from finding out about it. If they can just "disappear" him from the news for long enough, trump figures we'll forget all about him (and he's probably right in a large majority of cases). The only question I have left is who did the deed? Was it El Salvador or American ICE who killed him. That, I really want to know because it seems like ICE has no moral or ethical boundaries any longer. They always were short on "service", let alone compassion. But now? They're as evil incarnate as their big boss.

They also want the ability to disappear anyone for anything at any time, including "dissident" American citizens. He's following Hitler's playbook and no one is calling him on it. Thanks to police immunity, we've had busted in doors at 2am for many years. But now that's about to expand to another faceless fascist institution. This is where we completely lose our right to speak or think for ourselves. The fear will become too deeply ingrained for most of the populace. They'll find it easier to just keep their mouths and their minds shut. If they can maintain this fallacy that there's no way to legally bring this poor American home again, they'll have set up the perfect gulag... it's in another country where we have absolutely no oversight and America is not responsible for it or any of the atrocities that occur there. And now, Roberts seems just as easy with this decision as he was with Bush's "enhanced interrogation." Is there no limit to the evil these people think and do? Damn!

Just as bad as their stupid fucking immunity bullshit!!

WTF?
3:05 PM
Citizen's United
Presidential Immunity
Now this?

(his majority opinion)

what a bunch of bullshit.

Link to tweet

If this case hasn't gone before the Supreme court how does the Chief Justice Roberts have to power to interfere with another courts ruling in a case that hasn't even come before him?

See right above your post for what was ordered.

Roberts is in charge of the emergency petitions brought from Districts under the 4th Circuit & D.C. Circuit (all Justices are assigned a Circuit to do similar).

If it went to the SUPREME COURT.

Don't be alarmed.

SCOTUS just legalized the Mango Mussolini sending people to foreign torture prisons.
The United States has fallen. We are officially a dictatorship.

What possible compelling legal questions could possibly need to be addressed that wasn't already addressed by the lower courts?

The only reason is for SCOTUS to overrule the lower courts and give him legal cover to send US to foreign torture prisons.

And I do not agree with putting this case on hold. However, all it is is a hold. This type of order has nothing to do with legislating anything as you claimed. It is merely a temporary hold. Such actions whether you agree with them or not are routine. Nowhere in his order did Roberts indicate that the government's action is legal.

This is fucking BS............

to the post above by LetMyPeopleVote, where a copy of the order was included.

I.e., responses are due by tomorrow.

The shame of it all though, is the same old same old "delay" while an innocent person is suffering. I know realistically that even if they did cough up money to "buy him back" (which is what they would probably have to do), it wouldn't happen by midnight tonight.

They each supervise/oversee one or more of the circuits and can temporarily block something until the full court can consider whether to hear the case.

They very frequently consult with each other before doing so - but they don’t have to

No due process no nothing. The End!

It’s about time for the military to protect the Constitution they’ve sworn to uphold.

It will be taken up by the whole court.

This is fucking outrageous.

If you can grab a person from the US and ship them to a penal colony to torture and enslave : there is no law and no justice.
Roberts and his minions have killed Justice by drowning it in a bathtub.

The lamps are going out.

The Lights are Going Out

I avail myself with relief of the opportunity of speaking to the people of the United States. I do not know how long such liberties will be allowed. The stations of uncensored expression are closing down; the lights are going out; but there is still time for those to whom freedom and parliamentary government mean something, to consult together. Let me, then, speak in truth and earnestness while time remains.

...

Dictatorship – the fetish worship of one man – is a passing phase. A state of society where men may not speak their minds, where children denounce their parents to the police, where a business man or small shopkeeper ruins his competitor by telling tales about his private opinions; such a state of society cannot long endure if brought into contact with the healthy outside world. The light of civilised progress with its tolerances and co-operation, with its dignities and joys, has often in the past been blotted out. But I hold the belief that we have now at last got far enough ahead of barbarism to control it, and to avert it, if only we realise what is afoot and make up our minds in time. We shall do it in the end. But how much harder our toil for every day’s delay!

Is this a call to war? Does anyone pretend that preparation for resistance to aggression is unleashing war? I declare it to be the sole guarantee of peace. We need the swift gathering of forces to confront not only military but moral aggression; the resolute and sober acceptance of their duty by the English-speaking peoples and by all the nations, great and small, who wish to walk with them. Their faithful and zealous comradeship would almost between night and morning clear the path of progress and banish from all our lives the fear which already darkens the sunlight to hundreds of millions of men.

Winston Churchill
October 16, 1938
The Defence of Freedom and Peace (The Lights are Going Out)

The GOP will swallow anything, and then will make everyone else in the U.S. swallow it too.

Elaborate your reasons for allowing this innocent person to remain incarcerated without evidence from the government.

They are in on the reich wing plot to destroy American democracy.

Edited for clarity.

They sent Abrego Garcia to Hell, they can damn well get him back. Now.
And it's on our dime, too.
Roberts, you're a putz.

The courts order his return. That pressures the government to use diplomatic influence, pressure, or any other negotiating tactic at their disposal. They have established and ongoing rapport with the government currently holding the detainee. This most likely gets resolved if everyone does their job. SCOTUS casting this however they're going to frame it - executive privilege, diplomacy, unitary executive, DOJ prerogative - makes no difference. These are rights of every citizen and non-citizen. Habeas corpus. Bill of Rights level stuff, the foundations of the social contract. Citizens give up their rights to the state which agrees to protect everyone - citizens, non-citizens, foreigners, visitors, those charged, those in jail for that matter. Roberts Court is insane.

garcia does return in a body bag,
then dna tests should be required
to make sure it's him

we the people is all that is left

Pure evil, anyone of us could be next.

Who can disappear any of us at any time now.

America is over. And ANYTHING goes.

An innocent man is in a prison where he should never have been sent, one noted for torture and inhumane treatment, and Roberts decides that the SC needs a few days, or maybe weeks or months, to decide whether to let Trump leave him there to rot in violation of US law and human decency. They are all monsters.

and a 3rd generation US citizen, until there is a Democratic President I will not fly on an airplane, travel to a red state or leave the US. Once they rendition you there is no coming back. I am not going to give them the opportunity to make a mistake with my freedom.

If it were possible, I would recommend leaving to a country that can give you permanent residency and still has due process and human rights.

Trump’s already said he plans to send U.S. citizens next. And, if he invokes the Insurrection Act in a couple of weeks, he can decide who can be designated a “terrorist” subject to rendition. (And, now, the government has untold numbers of photos of last weekend’s protests with which to use facial recognition for identifying such “terrorists.”)

They can’t disappear you if you’re not on U.S. soil.

To the ElSalvadoran gulag. Maybe even SCOTUS judges...jus sayin.

how long and what comes next.

Most folks here have no experience with, and thus no understanding of Supreme Court procedure. FWIW, I have both.

If Roberts had denied the administrations emergency stay request -- keeping the district court order in place, Trump could've immediately re-flied the request with any Justice he chose. It doesn't take a crystal ball to know that he would've gone to Thomas and that Thomas would have granted the stay. Roberts has fast-tracked the matter, requesting a response by 5 pm tomorrow. If it had been put into Thomas' hands, he could have slow-rolled the case.

So, this probably is the best outcome one could expect. What the full court decides -- and where Roberts is on the question -- is yet to be known.

Most of us here haven’t been to prison. And the ones who have, haven’t been to Salvadoran gangster torture prison.

That man’s life is hell until we can get him out of there. Whatever you imagine he’s going through, it’s a thousand times worse.

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DOJ's appeal to SCOTUS was done separately/in addition to its appeal of the original ruling to the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals. Had he not referred it to the full court, DOJ could have appealed it again to another individual justice.

Also, shortly after the stay was released, a decision was issued by a 4th Circuit's three judge panel, which unanimously upheld the lower court's decision. The panel included judges appointed by Reagan, Clinton and Obama. I'm not a mind-reader, but that bodes well for an ultimate decision, as frustrating as this is.
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Supreme Court Pauses Midnight Deadline
CNN, via WTTW (Chicago)

"The Supreme Court on Monday temporarily paused a court-imposed midnight deadline to return Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, a Maryland man mistakenly deported to El Salvador, agreeing to a request from President Donald Trump to give both sides more time to make their arguments.

Chief Justice John Roberts granted the “administrative stay” on his own, a move that will extend the deadline until the court hands down a more fulsome decision – probably within a few days. Roberts handles emergency cases rising from the federal appeals court in Richmond, Virginia.

[...]

Appeals Court Declines to Block Order

"The request to the Supreme Court came minutes before a ruling from the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals denying DOJ’s request to lift the lower-court order.

The panel rejecting the appeal was: Judge Stephanie Thacker, an appointee of former President Barack Obama, Judge Harvie Wilkinson III, an appointee of former President Ronald Reagan, and Judge Robert King, an appointee of former President Bill Clinton."
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This may only be a procedural stay

'Don’t look too much into it': Expert downplays SCOTUS ruling as MAGA cheers 'huge win!'

www.rawstory.com/supreme-cour...

— lucasmundus (@lucasmundus.bsky.social) 2025-04-07T21:34:35.924Z

Link to tweet

https://www.rawstory.com/supreme-court-2671687442/

I'm wondering if some billionaire with his own military and jetliner could arrange for some of his enemies to be held there - or, could we raise enough through "Go Fund Me" to send some of our own picks?

Are El Salvador incarcerations just sold to the U.S., or is it an open market?

Just asking for a friend.

Like that time he didn't see the word "Insurrection."

Smarmy little turd is a traitor.

Bull Shit!!! I am so sick of these lying ass hats.

They aren't giving ANYBODY due process. This isn't a case of mistaken identity or anything like that. You can't deport 20 million people if you stop to see who they are.

Do they have dark skin? Do they have a name you can't pronounce? Do they have an accent?
Close enough.

Kilmar Abrego was sent to the gulag without any judicial proceeding and the government admitted it.

That up 160 (?) ppl in that roundup by ICE had no criminal record . I wonder what will become of them also .
If scotus rules that Abrego Garcia must stay , then I suppose the others are condemned as well .
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143435704

derriere!

forget this judge. I hope he looks in his mirror tonight and can't stand the guilt and kills himself.

They just need a little more time for him to "fall ill."

Predictably.

So, partisan politics are more important than mere justice to this hack.

What the hell is wrong with our legal system? The rich have no boundaries.

of this admin's policy that is worded strongly enough that it will resonate and force them to comply. But I will not hold my breath either.

He said the 5-4 decision involved how the case was filed in court, if it was filed under the correct statute or writ. He pointed out that all 9 Justices agreed that anyone potentially being deported had to have due process and a chance to argue their case against being deported. He also said Roberts' ruling pausing the lower court order on returing the wrongly deported MD man was adminstrative and that MD man's attorneys has already filed its brief to Roberts/SCOTUS.

and they are to blame for the U.S. becoming Argentina. We need to stop this now!