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BumRushDaShow

(165,151 posts)
Thu May 8, 2025, 02:20 PM May 2025

FAA announces new air traffic control system in hopes of taming busy skies

Source: NBC News

May 8, 2025, 1:32 PM EDT / Updated May 8, 2025, 2:34 PM EDT


The FAA will embark on an ambitious three-year plan to modernize America's air traffic control systems and phase out the "outdated technologies that are unable to meet" modern demands, officials said Thursday.

The federal government has been under pressure to address mounting traveler concerns in the wake of fatal crashes, ongoing delays and an embarrassing, recent revelation that the Newark airspace controllers lost all contact with pilots last week after a failure of the copper wiring that transmits radar data from New York to Philadelphia TRACON.

President Donald Trump said he sympathizes with passengers trapped in airports due to air traffic delays. "I'm sorry what you’re going through with the terminals, but we’re going to get them fixed up," Trump said in a phone call with Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy. Trump said too much air traffic data and communications run through "equipment that’s from the 1960s if you can believe it, doesn’t even mesh with the plane."

Duffy acknowledged the administration will need considerable assistance from Capitol Hill. "I need help. I can’t do it by myself and it’s going to take the help of the Congress to make that happen," he said. "So to do it in three or four years, we need all of the money up front."

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/faa-new-air-traffic-control-system-rcna205612



They have been saying this for decades.
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FAA announces new air traffic control system in hopes of taming busy skies (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2025 OP
Guess the stupid, non-rated fuck Aviation Pro May 2025 #1
"We need all the money up front," Bayard May 2025 #2
How come it was working fine and then started getting bad when he orange hitler became president? kimbutgar May 2025 #3
EXACTLY. You just KNOW Eloon is going to profit from this. groundloop May 2025 #8
And he probably isn't the best guy to do it. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2025 #13
What could possibly go wrong there? Initech May 2025 #24
Clearly a conspiracy to make dim donnie look bad. /s Grokenstein May 2025 #10
I worked in a factory electricmonk May 2025 #27
They fired the engineers and technicians that maintain and facilitate the infrastructure. yellow dahlia May 2025 #14
Of course, Miguelito Loveless May 2025 #4
via Starlink, of course! hedda_foil May 2025 #5
Yes, they are so full of bullshit. ananda May 2025 #6
We are still waiting for him to deliver the autonomous driving capability Bluetus May 2025 #12
Then there's Hyperloop Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2025 #16
Yup BumRushDaShow May 2025 #7
I think the timing and created emegency are way too "coincidental". yellow dahlia May 2025 #15
Eloon intends to run it and krasnov most likely approves. lark May 2025 #9
We need all the money up front DENVERPOPS May 2025 #11
"doesn't even mesh with the plane" Skittles May 2025 #17
Playoffs!??!! Playoffs!??!! ;) n/t Cheezoholic May 2025 #18
"I just hope we can land another plane!" Prof. Toru Tanaka May 2025 #19
". . . phase out the "outdated technologies that are unable to meet" modern demands, . . . " AverageOldGuy May 2025 #20
" an ambitious THREE-YEAR plan to modernize America's air traffic control systems" Grins May 2025 #21
just let big balls fix it mdbl May 2025 #22
Meanwhile, the FFA has fired hundreds of employees. I will be very surprised if we don't have several serious accidents Martin68 May 2025 #23
And if a few more planes crash not fooled May 2025 #25
AI?............... Lovie777 May 2025 #26

Aviation Pro

(15,197 posts)
1. Guess the stupid, non-rated fuck
Thu May 8, 2025, 02:33 PM
May 2025

Has never heard of ACARS (Aircraft Communications, Addressing and Reporting System), CPDLC (Controller Pilot Data Link Communications) and FANS (Future Air Navigation System), but since he's only a fucking pax how would the stupid fuck know?

kimbutgar

(26,679 posts)
3. How come it was working fine and then started getting bad when he orange hitler became president?
Thu May 8, 2025, 02:49 PM
May 2025

Grokenstein

(6,240 posts)
10. Clearly a conspiracy to make dim donnie look bad. /s
Thu May 8, 2025, 05:10 PM
May 2025

Three years, huh? Just enough time to either (a) drop it in someone else's lap to clean up, or (b) get a weary, impoverished serfdom to "just accept" it.

electricmonk

(2,015 posts)
27. I worked in a factory
Fri May 9, 2025, 04:15 PM
May 2025

That tried to install new enterprise management software that was supposed to manage and integrate all aspects of the plant into one system. This was a single plant with 300 or so employees. It took them well over a year to get it operational and it still had so many issues they ended up scrapping the whole thing and starting from scratch. I can't for the life of me seeing them redesigning a system as complex as air traffic control in 3 years. But hey, at least someone is going to get paid upfront, that will surely encourage them to get it right faster.

yellow dahlia

(4,281 posts)
14. They fired the engineers and technicians that maintain and facilitate the infrastructure.
Thu May 8, 2025, 07:46 PM
May 2025

They are the support systems that the ATC's rely on.

ananda

(34,305 posts)
6. Yes, they are so full of bullshit.
Thu May 8, 2025, 03:17 PM
May 2025

If this is for Musk, it will be nothing but a clusterfuck.

Bluetus

(2,188 posts)
12. We are still waiting for him to deliver the autonomous driving capability
Thu May 8, 2025, 07:07 PM
May 2025

he said would easily be demonstrated by the end of 2017. But instead, crickets. But that didn't stop Musk from getting many billions of dollars from his stock fraud operation -- all up front, of course.

BumRushDaShow

(165,151 posts)
7. Yup
Thu May 8, 2025, 03:23 PM
May 2025

As noted in this thread, the timing of these catastrophic failures seems to align with the incoming administration. I expect the DOGE boys slid some kind of code into some of the systems and this is the result. I know Muskrat was adding stuff to the Atlantic City, NJ airport facility - apparently StarLink related.

lark

(25,850 posts)
9. Eloon intends to run it and krasnov most likely approves.
Thu May 8, 2025, 04:23 PM
May 2025

Billionaires profiteering while cutting jobs for regular working folks and anything that helps the disabled and or disadvantaged thrive or even survive.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
11. We need all the money up front
Thu May 8, 2025, 06:28 PM
May 2025

Maybe ALL of Trump's contractors should have said that...............

AverageOldGuy

(3,279 posts)
20. ". . . phase out the "outdated technologies that are unable to meet" modern demands, . . . "
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:23 PM
May 2025

TRANSLATION: Turn air traffic control over to Musk and his whiz kids.

Grins

(9,214 posts)
21. " an ambitious THREE-YEAR plan to modernize America's air traffic control systems"
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:26 PM
May 2025

Beyond ambitious. More like fantasy.

From whose ass did they pull this? The ATC system is MASSIVE. You don’t just make changes without testing and testing and testing.

And where is the competitive RFP outlining the requirements? Who are the potential bidders? How long will that take, Mr. Duffy?

And #1: Where’s the money????

Like his first administration, his second is staffed with malcontents who have no idea what the government does, how it works, nor its complexity.

Martin68

(26,940 posts)
23. Meanwhile, the FFA has fired hundreds of employees. I will be very surprised if we don't have several serious accidents
Fri May 9, 2025, 10:42 AM
May 2025

before this is over. Understaffed and waiting for a new system to be set up? What could go wrong?

not fooled

(6,590 posts)
25. And if a few more planes crash
Fri May 9, 2025, 03:04 PM
May 2025

that's a small price to pay to "con"-vince the 'Murican publick that letting F-eloon run ATC is a good thing.

After all, red don's idol putin has been known to down an airplane now and then.


USA, meet toilet.



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