Trump asks the Supreme Court to neutralize the Convention Against Torture
Source: VOX
Trumps lawyers claim theyve found a loophole that will allow Trump to ship immigrants overseas to be tortured.
Federal law states that the United States shall not expel, extradite, or otherwise effect the involuntary return of any person to a country in which there are substantial grounds for believing the person would be in danger of being subjected to torture. This law implements a treaty, known as the Convention Against Torture, which the United States ratified more than three decades ago.
Federal regulations, moreover, provide that even after an immigration judge has determined that a noncitizen may be deported to another country, that judges order shall not be executed in circumstances that would violate Article 3 of the United Nations Convention Against Torture. And those regulations also establish a process that immigrants can use to raise concerns with an immigration judge that they may be tortured if sent to a specific country.
The Trump administration, however, claims it has discovered a loophole that renders all of these legal protections worthless, and is now asking the Supreme Court to explicitly give it the authority to make use of that loophole in order to enact its immigration policies.
According to President Donald Trumps lawyers, the administration can simply wait until after an immigration judge has conducted the proceeding that ordinarily would determine whether a particular noncitizen may be deported to a particular country, and then, if that noncitizen is allowed to be deported, announce that the immigrant will be deported to some previously unmentioned country even if that immigrant reasonably fears they will be tortured in that nation.
Department of Homeland Security v. D.V.D., the case where the Trump administration asks the justices to neutralize the Convention Against Torture, is unlike some of the more high-profile deportation cases that reached the Supreme Court such as the unlawful deportation of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia to El Salvador in that no one really questions that the immigrants at the heart of this case may be deported somewhere.
Read more: https://www.vox.com/scotus/416163/trump-supreme-court-deport-immigration-convention-torture
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— Ian Millhiser (@imillhiser.bsky.social) 2025-06-09T22:49:49.676Z

hildegaard28
(553 posts)These people are just plain evil.
ananda
(32,363 posts)Every time I think they can't go lower,
they do.
sinkingfeeling
(55,654 posts)slightlv
(5,909 posts)I still believe they should be tried for war crimes. Trump isn't even using the illusion of war to justify his sadistic desire. And I don't doubt for a minute these "techniques" will be turned against American Citizens sooner rather than later. And we must insist on a Truth and Reconciliation committee when we finally get him out of the WH. Him, and his nazi friends.
duhneece
(4,363 posts)republianmushroom
(20,299 posts)Is this where it started ?
ananda
(32,363 posts)It was bad enough then, but now it's so much worse.
republianmushroom
(20,299 posts)Last edited Mon Jun 9, 2025, 09:20 PM - Edit history (1)
OMGWTF
(4,791 posts)That this mofo and his puppet GeeDumbya escaped a trial in The Hague for war crimes is a travesty.
trusty elf
(7,501 posts)
Solly Mack
(95,137 posts)uppityperson
(115,946 posts)Kablooie
(18,917 posts)Watch the Stepford SCOTUS give him the power to Hitlerize everything in the US.
Martin68
(25,989 posts)OMGWTF
(4,791 posts)karin_sj
(1,218 posts)... but not surprising at all.
Orrex
(65,374 posts)get the red out
(13,814 posts)Trump will survive by his evil will alone, and to fuck with J. D.
bdamomma
(68,596 posts)onto this thought "he is making enemies everyday".
angrychair
(10,732 posts)This is fucking insane. I mean batshit crazy fucking insane.
This asshole is literally asking for the ability to torture people or have them tortured in another country. What the hell is going on. This is not the world I hoped for as a kid. Literally the opposite. I am at a total loss for words.
róisín_dubh
(12,045 posts)so why stop with this one (just in case)
For fucks sake this is nightmare fuel and will basically negate any of the country conditions reports I do for asylum seekers (many of them invoke the CAT in their asylum claims and rightly so).
Jesus fucking christ on a motorbike.
William769
(59,123 posts)bdamomma
(68,596 posts)it will come.....tic toc...tic toc....

Javaman
(64,112 posts)Vinca
(52,268 posts)Or how much it will cost. Trump's going to have to go back to wringing out the cult for money since Elmo's gone.
nuxvomica
(13,400 posts)Which is a form of fraud and therefore not a legal alternative.
perdita9
(1,273 posts)But the Atheists sure will
Hekate
(98,236 posts)
as will Buddhists, Pagans, Episcopalians, Universal Universalists, Jim Wallis of Sojourners and many more if they know about it.
Seriously, let people know.
Canada Kid
(252 posts)So this is what your CHRISTIAN WHITE GLOVED BIBLE PUNCHING ULTRA RIGHT WING MUTHA FUCKAS VOTED FOR!!! The Christian vote...."God spoke to Trump and asked him to be president"...remember they said this shit! And now there is SILENCE!!! Self righteous bastards every one!!
Irish_Dem
(71,367 posts)bucolic_frolic
(50,976 posts)to do the dirty work. Are we back to waterboarding, or progressing to thumbscrews and the rack?
LetMyPeopleVote
(165,175 posts)Link to tweet
Thanks to the Convention Against Torture, of which the United States is a signatory, the US is forbidden by law from deporting a person to a country where they have reason to believe the individual could be persecuted or tortured. However, the administration is now asking the Supreme Court to allow them to use a loophole in the torture agreement to send people to areas of the world where torture could happen, but maybe also wont happen.