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BumRushDaShow

(156,684 posts)
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 06:19 PM Jul 4

Trump 'doesn't care' if abandoned GOP seats are won by Democrats: ex-senator

Source: Raw Story

July 4, 2025 8:06AM ET


According to a former Republican lawmaker who fell out of favor with Donald Trump, walked away from his seat in the U.S. Senate and then saw a Democrat take his place, the president is unfazed by the GOP caucus taking another possible loss.

In a deep dive into two GOP lawmakers recently announcing they will not run in 2026, Rep. Don Bacon (R-NE) and Sen. Thom Tillis (R-NC), former Senator Jeff Flake (R-AZ) was asked about the shrinking number of Republican moderates in Congress by the Wall Street Journal.

After butting heads with Trump, Flake walked away from his seat, saw it filled by then-Democrat Kyrsten Sinema who was then replaced by Sen. Rueben Gallego (D-AZ).

As the Journal's Molly Ball wrote, the two recent announcements of departures are "the latest casualties of the president’s insistence on unstinting loyalty as the party looks ahead to a potentially difficult midterm election next year."

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-lost-gop-seats/

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Trump 'doesn't care' if abandoned GOP seats are won by Democrats: ex-senator (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jul 4 OP
Why doesn't he care? Irish_Dem Jul 4 #1
Yeah, that was my question. Biophilic Jul 4 #2
Because it's all about him RainCaster Jul 4 #6
Exactly. ShazzieB Jul 4 #16
Nailed it!! 'All he (Trump) knows or cares about is that people he no longer likes are leaving,..' riversedge Jul 5 #30
It's also about his power to run the government as he wants, with no guardrails left in place. Lonestarblue Jul 5 #33
Dems would need to re-take the house and a wide majority in the senate mdbl Jul 5 #41
This. Dulcinea Jul 6 #42
At the rate this is going, I think he plans to outlaw the Democratic party. sop Jul 4 #7
he'll wait until the election season Hieronymus Phact Jul 4 #20
Didn't the PutinGOP phone in bomb threats to Dem precincts last election? Irish_Dem Jul 5 #25
I expect because BumRushDaShow Jul 4 #8
Yes Trump thinks he holds all the cards, as per usual. Irish_Dem Jul 4 #9
Vance didn't oust Brown dsc Jul 4 #13
Thanks for the correction BumRushDaShow Jul 4 #14
Because he hot his bill passed quakerboy Jul 5 #21
Dems kidnapped by ICE nazis and sent to labor camps. Irish_Dem Jul 5 #26
Just google "Trump..You won't have to vote again" NGeorgian Jul 5 #24
Dem votes weren't counted last time, they won't be counted next time either. Irish_Dem Jul 5 #27
What nefarious reason would be not care? EarthFirst Jul 4 #3
Two possibilities, one good and one bad. Scrivener7 Jul 5 #31
In 2015 markodochartaigh Jul 4 #4
Trump thinks itll be narrow or limited majorities if the Dems win this time SSJVegeta Jul 4 #5
Because no Dem voted for the BBB, he thinks it will be a campaign issue Norbert Jul 4 #17
I dont think he plans to allow losing quakerboy Jul 5 #22
I think you're right. His approvals are in the 30s. That's pretty bad. Scrivener7 Jul 5 #32
I wish we could get a super majority in the House and Senate because we could get rid of the moron. cstanleytech Jul 4 #10
The question is: how does anything change? ananda Jul 4 #11
How about if we don't have majority in the Senate, Thomas or Alito could leave and be replaced by someone younger. NowsTheTime Jul 5 #29
If we, and by we I mean all of us, don't stop this government now... ananda Jul 5 #34
I just think we need to fight everywhere we can... NowsTheTime Jul 5 #36
Now, if we could Magats on side, like those people in Texas... ananda Jul 5 #37
I honestly think he's aware of his failing health (dementia) and knows he will not be in office by then. Speculation is SheilaAnn Jul 4 #12
And he wants to go play around on his free 747 before he dies. Bengus81 Jul 5 #38
I can't help but think that he will cancel the midterms. NH Ethylene Jul 4 #15
How would that work? Elections are state matters. n/t valleyrogue Jul 4 #19
You don't think his brown shirts will block every single polling place in swing states? AZ8theist Jul 5 #23
Not going to happen. Bengus81 Jul 5 #39
Maybe because Congress and the Courts have given over so much power to the Presidency Marie Marie Jul 4 #18
Krasnov doesn't care because the fix is in kkmarie Jul 5 #28
We would do well to remember... GiqueCee Jul 5 #35
He doesn't care because he got what he wanted jgmiller Jul 5 #40

ShazzieB

(21,161 posts)
16. Exactly.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 09:51 PM
Jul 4

All he knows or cares about is that people he no longer likes are leaving, and that's fine with him. His extreme narcissism blinds him to any other possible ramifications.

riversedge

(76,611 posts)
30. Nailed it!! 'All he (Trump) knows or cares about is that people he no longer likes are leaving,..'
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:07 AM
Jul 5

Lonestarblue

(12,804 posts)
33. It's also about his power to run the government as he wants, with no guardrails left in place.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:33 AM
Jul 5

He has already turned the FBI into a force loyal only to him and willing to act as his personal enforcement and terrorizing police force. Hitler had the SS, Putin has the GRU, and Trump is building the same power to order those he chooses to eliminate. The additional $45 billion he just got to build up ICE and new private prisons gives him enormous control of the whole population, not just migrants. Palantir now has a mega-database with all our most private data, and Trump can use it any way he wants to target anyone who offends him.

If Democrats retake control of the House next year, he doesn’t care because he will just ignore Congress. I suspect he would decide to create his own federal budget without Congress, with help from the Project 2025 crazies like Russell Vought. The Heritage Foundation has promoted the unitary executive theory for years with the executive having all power over all of government. It appears they have succeeded in giving Trump such power because Congress and the Supreme Court have rolled over and refused to serve as Constitutional checks and balances.

mdbl

(6,935 posts)
41. Dems would need to re-take the house and a wide majority in the senate
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:20 PM
Jul 5

To make anything happen.

Dulcinea

(8,754 posts)
42. This.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 01:31 AM
Jul 6

He doesn't give a crap that the rest of the nation will be left holding the bag. He got what he wanted, & that's all that matters to him. The rest of us aren't part of his equation.

Hieronymus Phact

(628 posts)
20. he'll wait until the election season
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 11:44 PM
Jul 4

and then use the DoJ to freeze their bank accounts during the campaign.

Irish_Dem

(72,343 posts)
25. Didn't the PutinGOP phone in bomb threats to Dem precincts last election?
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:27 AM
Jul 5

Yes things like this, including freezing bank accounts.

BumRushDaShow

(156,684 posts)
8. I expect because
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 06:33 PM
Jul 4

he would instead focus on "endorsing" loyal subjects to run against Democrats who are up in other locations, like what happened here in PA when Bob Casey lost to carpet-bagger McCormick or like how cretins like the one who became his VP, ousted Sherrod Brown.

Jon Ossoff is up in 2026 in GA and I expect they are furiously rubbing their hands together to get at that seat. There will probably be a lot of performance art going on in NH too for Jeane Shaheen's seat, which Scott Brown has been eyeing.

BumRushDaShow

(156,684 posts)
14. Thanks for the correction
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 08:57 PM
Jul 4

and we all know Moreno's surefire background.

Jon Husted is in there, who I haven't actually heard a peep out of.

quakerboy

(14,452 posts)
21. Because he hot his bill passed
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:23 AM
Jul 5

The ice army and concentration camps are funded. At a level far beyond what would be needed even for a cruelly aggressive anti immigrant campaign.

Scrivener7

(56,430 posts)
31. Two possibilities, one good and one bad.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:08 AM
Jul 5

The bad one: he knows all future elections are rigged and he can do whatever he wants

The good one: he doesn't plan to run again and doesn't care what kind of trash heap he leaves for his party or our country when he goes.

I'm going to choose to be optimistic because I don't think he likes being president, and he only ran again to stay out of jail and get back at us for not electing him in 2020. I think he thinks (rightfully, as we have learned all too well) that no one has the spleen to make him pay for his crimes, so he doesn't have to run again.

markodochartaigh

(3,350 posts)
4. In 2015
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 06:27 PM
Jul 4

the Republicans were going to have a brokered convention to choose another candidate but they realized that because Trump was so wildly popular among their authoritarian base they could not win without him. So they chose an authoritarian Strong Leader who was not committed to democracy as their candidate.

They ended the legitimacy of the Republican party as a partner in democracy. This not only has consequences for democracy in the US, it also has consequences internal to the Republican party. A political party cannot have an authoritarian Strong Leader as its head and also be fully democratic.

Norbert

(7,162 posts)
17. Because no Dem voted for the BBB, he thinks it will be a campaign issue
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 10:28 PM
Jul 4

favoring the GOP. Please proceed, dimwit.

quakerboy

(14,452 posts)
22. I dont think he plans to allow losing
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:31 AM
Jul 5

Or any meaningful dissent if he were to lose allies.

Thats where the new ice funding will come in handy. They know the rest of the bill is a disaster for voters, they made the bet that that will take care of pesky voter issues.

Scrivener7

(56,430 posts)
32. I think you're right. His approvals are in the 30s. That's pretty bad.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:11 AM
Jul 5

Tragedy and death and heartache are baked into his term already. And those will get worse. Hopefully we will find the bottom where people stop supporting him. Sadly, that's our only hope now.

cstanleytech

(27,764 posts)
10. I wish we could get a super majority in the House and Senate because we could get rid of the moron.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 08:16 PM
Jul 4

😩

ananda

(32,587 posts)
11. The question is: how does anything change?
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 08:22 PM
Jul 4

I've been considering what would happen if Dems
got majorities, and I can't think of anything they
could do that would help...

Somebody want to talk me down?

NowsTheTime

(1,158 posts)
29. How about if we don't have majority in the Senate, Thomas or Alito could leave and be replaced by someone younger.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:58 AM
Jul 5

ananda

(32,587 posts)
34. If we, and by we I mean all of us, don't stop this government now...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:41 AM
Jul 5

I don't think courts will even matter.

They're already getting more and more irrelevant every day.

Of course, I guess it would be nice for the fascists to have a
so-called "court" to rubber stamp everything and make it
look legitimate... though I can't see how anyone would think
it was anyway

ananda

(32,587 posts)
37. Now, if we could Magats on side, like those people in Texas...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:00 PM
Jul 5

that would help.

But their minds are kinda stuck in the cult, so I don't
know if that will happen.

SheilaAnn

(10,450 posts)
12. I honestly think he's aware of his failing health (dementia) and knows he will not be in office by then. Speculation is
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 08:23 PM
Jul 4

entirely mine but he is a pretty sick guy both mentally and physically.

NH Ethylene

(31,182 posts)
15. I can't help but think that he will cancel the midterms.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 09:38 PM
Jul 4

My biggest fear is that we lose even a fighting chance to recover our democracy, such as it was.

AZ8theist

(6,785 posts)
23. You don't think his brown shirts will block every single polling place in swing states?
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:34 AM
Jul 5

That's one way, declaring martial law would be another. Hitler did it, and we all know Dotard masterbates over Mein Kampf.

Marie Marie

(10,331 posts)
18. Maybe because Congress and the Courts have given over so much power to the Presidency
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 11:16 PM
Jul 4

he thinks he can still be the Supreme Ruler with no obstruction. Doesn't like a law - sue 'em . The Supreme Court will take care of him.

kkmarie

(263 posts)
28. Krasnov doesn't care because the fix is in
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:39 AM
Jul 5

From Krasnov's speech July 2024 to Christians @ Turning Point

WASHINGTON, July 27 (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump told Christians on Friday that if they vote for him this November, "in four years, you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good, you're not gonna have to vote."


Trump was speaking at an event organized by the conservative group Turning Point Action in West Palm Beach, Florida.
Trump said: "Christians, get out and vote, just this time. "You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what, it will be fixed, it will be fine, you won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians."
He added: "I love you Christians. I'm a Christian. I love you, get out, you gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don't have to vote again, we'll have it fixed so good you're not going to have to vote," Trump said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-tells-christians-they-wont-have-vote-after-this-election-2024-07-27/

Krasnov always spills the beans. He can't help it. He can't keep a secret.

GiqueCee

(2,550 posts)
35. We would do well to remember...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:54 AM
Jul 5

... an off-hand comment he made not long ago, that in the near future, "... you won't even have to vote. We'll take care of it." Or words very close to that effect.
Republicans in Miami recently pulled a stunt that will certainly find its way to the Trump-worshipping Roberts Court: They cancelled elections for next year, with an absurdly fabricated justification. The subsequent judgement will likely favor Trump's evil scheme to assert the power to do the same thing on a national level.
Total dictatorship, here we come!

jgmiller

(587 posts)
40. He doesn't care because he got what he wanted
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:47 PM
Jul 5

He isn't going to jail
He has made billions and hidden it so nobody can take it away
He knows that even he can't figure out how to run again and get away with it
He knows dems will take the house an impeach him but he also knows the senate won't convict (again)
He knows he can do whatever he feels like as president even with a dem house and senate he will just veto any bill he doesn't like

He doesn't need to stop any elections to do or avoid any of the above, he will cause chaos by suggesting he's going to do that though just like he keeps suggesting he could runa gain.

Until everyone learns to stop reacting to every idiotic thing that comes out of his mouth he will keep getting what he wants.

The best way to defeat him personally is to IGNORE HIM! He is a publicity whore, he always has been. Do we need to win back the house and the senate, of course we do but IGNORE HIM and we will succeed in so many more ways.

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