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highplainsdem

(60,000 posts)
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:13 PM Jul 2025

Joe Rogan Feels Trump Betrayed Him on Immigration

Source: Gizmodo

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Rogan, who endorsed Trump just hours before the 2024 presidential election, now says he was misled by the man he helped boost into office. The podcaster and UFC commentator, known for giving a platform to anti-cancel culture figures and free speech advocates, is now accusing Trump of betraying the very values he campaigned on.

“We were told there would be…,” Rogan began during a July 2 episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, before trailing off and recalibrating. “There’s two things that are insane. One is the targeting of migrant workers, not cartel members, not gang members, not drug dealers, just construction workers showing up at construction sites, raiding them. Gardeners. Like, really?”

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“Fascism is the response almost always to communism,” Rogan said on the same podcast, quoting ANthony Rispo, a student of psychology and neuroscience at Columbia University. “What we experience in this country is this continual overcorrection. Overcorrection to the left, then overcorrection to the right, to counter that.”

In other words, Rogan is wondering if Trump’s policies are an overcorrection too far, and if they resemble fascism more than freedom.

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Read more: https://gizmodo.com/joe-rogan-feels-trump-betrayed-him-on-immigration-2000624426



Rogan's support of Trump had followed Musk's, and the article points out that with both now disillusioned, Trump could lose the support of many of the "disaffected men, anti-establishment voters, young libertarians, and people tired of traditional politics" who make up their followers/audience.

Rogan also complained about people being deported or threatened with deportation just for being critical of Israel.
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Joe Rogan Feels Trump Betrayed Him on Immigration (Original Post) highplainsdem Jul 2025 OP
"targeting of migrant workers, not cartel members, not gang members, not drug dealers" ??? speak easy Jul 2025 #1
Moron. If he'd been paying any attention and not just sniffing Trump's farts, Ocelot II Jul 2025 #2
Rogan thinks there was a big swing to the left? underpants Jul 2025 #3
Rogan is an ignorant idiot. Safe as Milk Jul 2025 #30
That, he is, but he also may be a barometer RedArkGuy Jul 2025 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author underpants Jul 2025 #4
Joe Rogan is DEEPLY dishonest about his own record. He is a LIAR. RockRaven Jul 2025 #5
True RedArkGuy Jul 2025 #44
Better late than never... I know, I know. Joinfortmill Jul 2025 #6
As I posted here days ago BaronChocula Jul 2025 #7
I don't think Trump will lose support based on his actions. ificandream Jul 2025 #8
I fear only if that pandemic cuts a huge swath of death slightlv Jul 2025 #19
It took George W. Bush supporters the Iraq War and Katrina, about five years, to start souring on him DSandra Jul 2025 #28
The polls do show a loss of support though. RedArkGuy Jul 2025 #45
I must have missed tonkatoy8888 Jul 2025 #9
This sentence you wrote really nails it ... ificandream Jul 2025 #16
Thanks! Exactly my thought! reACTIONary Jul 2025 #38
They think communism is . . . RedArkGuy Jul 2025 #46
Started with the New Deal according to Deminpenn Jul 2025 #47
Interesting Post DanBaron Jul 2025 #10
Actually- Rogan up until this past election always declared he was a liberal womanofthehills Jul 2025 #22
Thanks DanBaron Jul 2025 #35
No good people were duped by Trump MrsCheaplaugh Jul 2025 #50
Who gives a shit what Joe Blowgan has to say mdbl Jul 2025 #11
The "dopes that listen to him" are a not-insignificant voting bloc. sir pball Jul 2025 #24
I rest my case. mdbl Jul 2025 #42
There's no communism here to over-correct. yardwork Jul 2025 #12
He is. Aristus Jul 2025 #31
I'm so tired of these people. yardwork Jul 2025 #36
You and me both. Aristus Jul 2025 #37
Exactly! An exceptionally stupid remark that.... reACTIONary Jul 2025 #39
I Always Wish Someone Would Follow Up and Ask For Specifics DrFunkenstein Jul 2025 #54
Ahh yes...buyers remorse... Can he get a refund???? nope...nt mitch96 Jul 2025 #13
Someone needs to explain to Joe Rogan that he lacks critical thinking skills William Seger Jul 2025 #14
I'm not impressed by this admission/confession/whatever this is supposed to be. MLWR Jul 2025 #15
how is this even news, let alone late breaking. nt msongs Jul 2025 #17
Maybe because Rogan has the largest podcast audience in the world womanofthehills Jul 2025 #23
Follow the money Keepthesoulalive Jul 2025 #29
Hey rogaine... Clouds Passing Jul 2025 #18
Hey Joe, welcome to the club called humanity. Ray Bruns Jul 2025 #20
Rogan is equating liberalism with communism. Somebody should hand this guy a dictionary. patphil Jul 2025 #21
That equivocation is endemic amoung... reACTIONary Jul 2025 #40
He is so ignorant and full of shit it's unreal. ananda Jul 2025 #25
Two Words: "Useful Idiot" DSandra Jul 2025 #26
Trump promised he would deport one million immigrants annually. sop Jul 2025 #27
i get to cal him a dumbass fool. pansypoo53219 Jul 2025 #32
Damn, Joe, you mean to tell me you didn't known trump lies ? republianmushroom Jul 2025 #33
Rogan... lonely bird Jul 2025 #34
Rogan is a moron. LudwigPastorius Jul 2025 #41
It is ridiculous to have media write moniss Jul 2025 #48
Dude, what wasn't clear about LisaL Jul 2025 #49
I call BS. yourout Jul 2025 #51
I know. Omnipresent Jul 2025 #52
Moron doesnt even know what communism is SSJVegeta Jul 2025 #53
Fuck Joe Rogan. He helped bring us this hellscape.And no one should think for one second that this asshole is on our tulipsandroses Jul 2025 #55
Rogan is every bit as responsible as those like Bannon for flooding the zone with shit. pecosbob Jul 2025 #56

speak easy

(12,595 posts)
1. "targeting of migrant workers, not cartel members, not gang members, not drug dealers" ???
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:18 PM
Jul 2025

Rogan has a selective memory, or maybe he heard only what he wanted to hear. Krasnov was promising, always promising, 'the biggest mass deportation operation in history.'

Ocelot II

(129,075 posts)
2. Moron. If he'd been paying any attention and not just sniffing Trump's farts,
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:20 PM
Jul 2025

he would have known all this was coming, just as we did.

underpants

(194,908 posts)
3. Rogan thinks there was a big swing to the left?
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:22 PM
Jul 2025

Stated in the form of a question because that’s one of Rogan’s tricks. He asks questions (with a point) but doesn’t state things very often.


His guest, Amjad Masad, the Palestinian founder and CEO of the coding platform Replit, agreed. The two were discussing the Trump administration’s crackdown on immigrants, especially in the context of escalating tensions over Gaza and political speech on U.S. campuses.

Masad brought up recent reports of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) targeting Palestinian students and immigrants on flimsy pretenses. “Did you see the video of the Turkish student at Tufts University who wrote an essay?” he asked.

Rogan responded, incredulous: “It was just critical of Israel, right? And that’s enough to get you kicked out of the country?”

Safe as Milk

(207 posts)
30. Rogan is an ignorant idiot.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:21 PM
Jul 2025

The fact that he's got a social media platform doesn't make him educated. He's obviously got no historical or political science background and is just blowing words out of his ass. People can listen to his drivel, or they can pick up a book or two by Timothy Snyder if they want to know about the etiologies of fascism.

RedArkGuy

(871 posts)
43. That, he is, but he also may be a barometer
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:19 PM
Jul 2025

. . . of the psychology of so many male voters who went for Biden in 2020 and then switched to Trump in 24. Or the many voters Biden got who stayed home in 24.

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

RockRaven

(18,720 posts)
5. Joe Rogan is DEEPLY dishonest about his own record. He is a LIAR.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:29 PM
Jul 2025

He lies about his biases. He lies about his decisions. He lies about what he has said in the past. He lies about his guests' sayings. He lies about documents. He lies, lies, lies in ways which are trivial to expose. And millions of fuckwits slurp it down daily.

RedArkGuy

(871 posts)
44. True
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:22 PM
Jul 2025

I imagine it would be pretty easy to find in his shows many instances when he supported mass deportations of not just those who have committed violent crimes but everyone who is undocumented.

Notably, he doesn't seem bothered at all by the cut of $1 trillion to healthcare over the next ten years. And I'm sure he's hunky-dory with RFK Jr's nonsense.

ificandream

(11,688 posts)
8. I don't think Trump will lose support based on his actions.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:34 PM
Jul 2025

His very actions are what the racist Trump supporters want. It's going to take a lot more ... another pandemic maybe ... to get them to change their minds, I fear.

slightlv

(7,438 posts)
19. I fear only if that pandemic cuts a huge swath of death
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:25 PM
Jul 2025

among them, and mostly them (because the rest of us vax and take precautions!). Something like that *might* wake up a few of them.

DSandra

(1,696 posts)
28. It took George W. Bush supporters the Iraq War and Katrina, about five years, to start souring on him
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:01 PM
Jul 2025

And by the 2008 election they pretended that they never supported him.

RedArkGuy

(871 posts)
45. The polls do show a loss of support though.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:24 PM
Jul 2025

But nowadays I guess we'd need to see him go below 35 percent before we can be sure his benighted party would lose what passes for a fair election in 26.

tonkatoy8888

(172 posts)
9. I must have missed
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:37 PM
Jul 2025

our descent into communism. Maybe I was napping or perhaps out of the country when this seismic shift in political orientation occurred.

With this group there's always a lot of bullshit, but honestly, implying that our lurch into authoritarianism was a reaction to communism? Deep thinkers, or even the nominally educated are not a large part of the GOP machine.

ificandream

(11,688 posts)
16. This sentence you wrote really nails it ...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:05 PM
Jul 2025

"Deep thinkers, or even the nominally educated are not a large part of the GOP machine."

And that runs all the way to the top of the ladder in Republicanism.

RedArkGuy

(871 posts)
46. They think communism is . . .
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:26 PM
Jul 2025

. . . kids being able to transition to their chosen gender with their parents' permission. Or public high schools with Black or Latino History electives.

 

DanBaron

(105 posts)
10. Interesting Post
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:38 PM
Jul 2025

Rogan is more like an Old School Republican rather than a typical MAGA clown. We might get him on our side on some issues. Maybe get someone like Mayor Pete on his Show if we can cool this Media War down a bit and get some detente.

womanofthehills

(10,713 posts)
22. Actually- Rogan up until this past election always declared he was a liberal
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:40 PM
Jul 2025

He was a Bernie Bro (in the past he had Bernie on numerous times) and always spoke of never having voted for a Republican before this election in his life. . He says he’s socially liberal. He might have some Independent tendencies as he has on Dave Smith a lot but so do many shows . Crystal Ball is bringing on Dave Smith a lot too. Dave Smith, Crystal Ball & Rogan all have been speaking up against the genocide in Gaza -

He was attacked big time over ivermectin with many calling for his removal from Spotify . That might have affected his politics. I think his friendship with Elon might have affected him negatively as he said “his 3 hr interview with Elon made the most compelling case for Trump. In 2020, he supported Bernie Sanders and in 2024 Robert Kennedy when Kennedy was running for president before he joined with Trump.

He has so many comedians & sports people on but he sometimes has interesting guests and I will listen to those podcasts. Last week he had Bernie on and it was good to listen to Bernie for almost 2 hours.

 

DanBaron

(105 posts)
35. Thanks
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 07:34 PM
Jul 2025

I don't really follow Rogan so thank you for the info. I guess that he was one of the good people who were duped by Trump.

MrsCheaplaugh

(265 posts)
50. No good people were duped by Trump
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:01 AM
Jul 2025

Rogan's just an idiot with a microphone and an audience. His political convictions change depending on who his guest of the week is. If he has Bernie on, he parrots Bernie; if he has Elon on, he parrots Elon. The man's as stupid as a rock, and spineless in the bargain -- a perfect Trump follower.

sir pball

(5,251 posts)
24. The "dopes that listen to him" are a not-insignificant voting bloc.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:50 PM
Jul 2025

The OP says it at the end - disillusioned, anti-establishment/libertarian types, lotsa young males, who broke much harder for Trump this cycle than 2020.

I'm not gonna suddenly start praising the guy, but TFG potentially losing him is actually a pretty major strategic blow.

Aristus

(71,649 posts)
31. He is.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:33 PM
Jul 2025

But he’s also media-savvy enough to know that he has to hew to the “both-sides” idiocy in order to preserve deniability against accusations of bias.

reACTIONary

(6,977 posts)
39. Exactly! An exceptionally stupid remark that....
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:16 PM
Jul 2025

... might make him seem to be a "thinker" to some bar stool blowhards.

DrFunkenstein

(8,899 posts)
54. I Always Wish Someone Would Follow Up and Ask For Specifics
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 10:07 AM
Jul 2025

Because the whole "communist" thing dissolves with the least scrutiny.

William Seger

(12,209 posts)
14. Someone needs to explain to Joe Rogan that he lacks critical thinking skills
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:37 PM
Jul 2025

He'll never figure it out for himself.

MLWR

(776 posts)
15. I'm not impressed by this admission/confession/whatever this is supposed to be.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:57 PM
Jul 2025

From his first term, it was clear to anyone paying a modicum of attention that trump lies. All the time. About any- and everything. He, like a toddler pushes boundaries; he carries grudges and avenges any and all grievances. He let everyone know, he intended not to govern but to rule like a dictator. His hatred for Latin Americans was always clear and left no doubts. Now, he's building concentration camps and threatening legal, American citizens. If he didn't see fascism coming with trump, he lacks the ability to connect the dots and that is on him.

womanofthehills

(10,713 posts)
23. Maybe because Rogan has the largest podcast audience in the world
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:46 PM
Jul 2025

And up until endorsing Trump he was a liberal.

Rogan has more daily listeners than all of cable tv combined so he is a huge force.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,120 posts)
29. Follow the money
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:04 PM
Jul 2025

Joe goes where the money goes. I think the Midas touch podcast has passed him in terms of people watching and listening. The man has no core values and many of the people listening are the same. Trump was not good for the country and that is what we should be focused on not the latest talking head.

patphil

(8,730 posts)
21. Rogan is equating liberalism with communism. Somebody should hand this guy a dictionary.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:38 PM
Jul 2025

Or at least wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

Although Liberalism does have some elements of Socialism in it, it is definitely different than both Socialism, and Communism.
Far-left liberals support private enterprise, but with a social conscious that seeks to help those in need, while putting constraints on those people and companies that adhere to a philosophy of self enrichment at the expense of society.
Also, far-left liberals would never advocate the government ownership and control of everything that is at the core of communism.

reACTIONary

(6,977 posts)
40. That equivocation is endemic amoung...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:20 PM
Jul 2025

... small minded, shallow thinking, right wing extremists.

sop

(17,426 posts)
27. Trump promised he would deport one million immigrants annually.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:55 PM
Jul 2025

By all accounts, there aren't that many dangerous criminal immigrants in the U.S. Where did Rogan think these millions of deportees would come from?

republianmushroom

(22,122 posts)
33. Damn, Joe, you mean to tell me you didn't known trump lies ?
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:27 PM
Jul 2025

You live under that same rock as Newt ? Another one trying to cover his ass now.

lonely bird

(2,773 posts)
34. Rogan...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 07:30 PM
Jul 2025

Is an excellent example of the fracturing and destruction of media.

If everyone is media then no one is media.

moniss

(8,708 posts)
48. It is ridiculous to have media write
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 07:51 AM
Jul 2025

articles saying that Crumb The 1st might lose the support of the people who follow Rogan etc. Crumb The 1st doesn't give a damn about that because he's got the power now and doesn't need them in order to stay in power. With voter suppression and gerrymandering turned up to the nth degree the people around him are planning on keeping control of Congress after the mid-terms. With the explosion of the ICE budget and the massive hiring of American Gestapo goons to come you can count on them being deployed at the polls and at ballot drop boxes and any registration drives. Then on Election Day they will likely engage in shenanigans to claim that various voting sites need to be closed or restricted because of a "security" situation. Of course those sites will be in Democratic areas only.

People might think a judge might order extended hours for voting but do these people have a track record of following orders from the courts? Not really. Then we'll hear "It's too late now to to go back and correct the situation."

Omnipresent

(7,307 posts)
52. I know.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:50 AM
Jul 2025

Trump has been so sincere and honest ever since he descended that escalator 10 years, to announce he was running.
No one knew that he could be so erratic when he ran for President again in 2024.

tulipsandroses

(8,131 posts)
55. Fuck Joe Rogan. He helped bring us this hellscape.And no one should think for one second that this asshole is on our
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 10:32 AM
Jul 2025

side. Note that he says that this is overcorrection of communism. Because being asked not be a hateful sexist bigoted asshole = communism.
As soon as the next trump like figure appears they will run to that person.
Many of the Bernie bros turned to trump in 16 when Bernie lost to Hillary. I am of the belief that it wasn''t Bernie's message they liked, it was that the was running against HRC.
Their sexism and misogyny runs deep. People who are bigoted against one group of people, more than likely share the same disdain for others.

pecosbob

(8,308 posts)
56. Rogan is every bit as responsible as those like Bannon for flooding the zone with shit.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 03:54 PM
Jul 2025

He's a wannabe Art Bell without any of his integrity.

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