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muriel_volestrangler

(105,562 posts)
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 03:01 PM Aug 2025

US and Russia Plan Truce to Cement Putin's Gains in Ukraine

Source: Bloomberg

Washington and Moscow are aiming to reach a deal to halt the war in Ukraine that would lock in Russia’s occupation of territory seized during its military invasion, according to people familiar with the matter.
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Putin is demanding that Ukraine cede its entire eastern Donbas area to Russia as well as Crimea, which his forces illegally annexed in 2014. That would require Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to order a withdrawal of troops from parts of the Luhansk and Donetsk regions still held by Kyiv, handing Russia a victory that its army couldn’t achieve militarily since the start of the full-scale invasion in February 2022.

Such an outcome would represent a major win for Putin, who has long sought direct negotiations with the US on terms for ending the war that he started, sidelining Ukraine and its European allies. Zelenskiy risks being presented with a take-it-or-leave-it deal to accept the loss of Ukrainian territory, while Europe fears it would be left to monitor a ceasefire as Putin rebuilds his forces.
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Under the terms of the deal that officials are discussing, Russia would halt its offensive in the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions of Ukraine along the current battlelines, the people said. They cautioned that the terms and plans of the accord were still in flux and could still change.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-08-08/us-and-russia-plan-truce-deal-to-cement-putin-s-gains-in-ukraine



Archive copy: https://archive.ph/JMVKb

The "master of the deal" just gives other people's lives away. He likes Putin too much to make him give anything up, and gives him a little bonus too. Think of it as a Christmas present to that boss you want to suck up to.

Analysis in a Bluesky thread:

1/ The Trump Administration is reportedly finalising a peace proposal that would allow Russia to take over the entirety of the Donetsk region and force Ukraine to surrender the unoccupied portion. All territory currently occupied by Russia would remain under Russian control. ⬇️

ChrisO_wiki (@chriso-wiki.bsky.social) 2025-08-08T15:17:03.868Z
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US and Russia Plan Truce to Cement Putin's Gains in Ukraine (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 OP
We knew Trump would hand over Ukraine to Putin. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #1
That's not how this works. BidenRocks Aug 2025 #2
It's the Epstein approach to negotiating. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2025 #8
That is a good way of putting it ck4829 Aug 2025 #25
That's more than the Donbas. speak easy Aug 2025 #3
They tried to pull this crap already, and Ukraine/EU just ignored the nonsense. Dump is full of shit. kysrsoze Aug 2025 #4
And will do it again and again! PortTack Aug 2025 #20
The US isn't a party in this. Ukraine should tell both Putin and TSF to go pound salt. sinkingfeeling Aug 2025 #5
It depends whether Trump will continue to supply arms and intelligence, though muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #6
The EU and other countries are beginning to pick up the slack. The US is no longer the major weapons supplier PortTack Aug 2025 #21
The last figure I heard was the US supplying about 30% muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #23
Does Ukraine have any say? dlk Aug 2025 #7
THIS, a million million times over!! bluestarone Aug 2025 #10
Is there a reason they should have a say ... cliffside Aug 2025 #11
It took until your post 7 for this to be pointed out. Fucking depressing. niyad Aug 2025 #15
Good question! ck4829 Aug 2025 #24
Trump is showing Quanto Magnus Aug 2025 #9
Tell Putin and Trump very politely... lonely bird Aug 2025 #12
it's between Russia and Ukraine Skittles Aug 2025 #13
FUCK YOU, bloomberg, framing this as though the VICTIM, the ILLEGALLY niyad Aug 2025 #14
I can just see the dynamic duo getting Zelenskiy into the Oval office again, Bayard Aug 2025 #16
Unbelievable DallasNE Aug 2025 #17
Doubt it 200%! Brainfodder Aug 2025 #18
Maybe best if they ask Ukraine. republianmushroom Aug 2025 #19
And he's welcoming a war criminal to the US mcar Aug 2025 #22
Trump gave Puting the RED carpet treatment, BUT then Trump walked away with his tail between his legs!! riversedge Aug 2025 #26

BidenRocks

(2,773 posts)
2. That's not how this works.
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 03:12 PM
Aug 2025

All the talk means shit!

The war will continue without chumps interference.

NATO and the EU will take over our role.

America is being replaced and canceled due to chump.

I am ready to die for my country, before there isn't a country.

8. It's the Epstein approach to negotiating.
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 04:27 PM
Aug 2025

Create a scheme that greatly benefits the negotiators and totally ignores the real victims.

Putin ends up rewarded for his aggression, with land and a foothold to set up his next invasion of the rest of Ukraine. He'll then start picking off the NATO countries one-by-one, either forcibly or through extortion, secure in the knowledge that, according to Felon47, he can do "Whatever the hell he wants" to countries unwilling to "kiss the ring."

TACO gains personal control of Ukraine's untold riches in rare earths. More importantly, he strengthens his reason to demand one or more of his coveted Nobel Prizes. The gold award will fit nicely in the Oval Office's new whore house decor.

Actually, to call it a whore house is unfair. There are some things even a prostitute won't do for money.

kysrsoze

(6,410 posts)
4. They tried to pull this crap already, and Ukraine/EU just ignored the nonsense. Dump is full of shit.
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 03:26 PM
Aug 2025

muriel_volestrangler

(105,562 posts)
6. It depends whether Trump will continue to supply arms and intelligence, though
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 03:39 PM
Aug 2025

The Ukrainian and European arms on their own are not going to be enough to hold the line.

PortTack

(35,815 posts)
21. The EU and other countries are beginning to pick up the slack. The US is no longer the major weapons supplier
Sat Aug 9, 2025, 11:24 AM
Aug 2025

And, Ukraine is building their own drones and other military equipment.

Quanto Magnus

(1,298 posts)
9. Trump is showing
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 05:29 PM
Aug 2025

how subservient he is to Putin....

such a beta....


On top of being called TACO, we really need to add the 'beta' moniker.

lonely bird

(2,773 posts)
12. Tell Putin and Trump very politely...
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 09:26 PM
Aug 2025

To fuck off all the way to Fuckoffistan and then fuck off some more.

Start droning Moscow heavily.

niyad

(129,553 posts)
14. FUCK YOU, bloomberg, framing this as though the VICTIM, the ILLEGALLY
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 10:57 PM
Aug 2025

INVADED COUNTRY, has no say iin this.

Bayard

(28,577 posts)
16. I can just see the dynamic duo getting Zelenskiy into the Oval office again,
Fri Aug 8, 2025, 11:15 PM
Aug 2025

And trying to hit him over the head with their, "deal," saying--you have no choice. He should just decline any invitation.

DallasNE

(7,960 posts)
17. Unbelievable
Sat Aug 9, 2025, 12:14 AM
Aug 2025

No NATO input.

No Ukraine input.

Just Trump handing the keys to Putin.

How is this any different than Chamberlain giving away part of Czechoslovakia to Hitler in 1938? And Hitler took the rest in March 1939.

republianmushroom

(22,122 posts)
19. Maybe best if they ask Ukraine.
Sat Aug 9, 2025, 11:12 AM
Aug 2025

Screw trump and Putin, well trump is going to get screwed by Putin, his master.

mcar

(45,668 posts)
22. And he's welcoming a war criminal to the US
Sat Aug 9, 2025, 11:25 AM
Aug 2025


This is so much BS. Just more proof Putin owns him lock, stock and barrel.

riversedge

(79,428 posts)
26. Trump gave Puting the RED carpet treatment, BUT then Trump walked away with his tail between his legs!!
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 08:05 PM
Aug 2025
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