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BumRushDaShow

(166,572 posts)
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 04:48 PM Oct 2025

RFK Jr to urge Americans to eat more saturated fats, alarming health experts

Source: The Guardian

Sat 25 Oct 2025 08.00 EDT
Last modified on Sat 25 Oct 2025 14.39 EDT


Robert F Kennedy Jr, the health and human services (HHS) secretary, is planning to issue guidance encouraging Americans to eat more saturated fats, contradicting decades of dietary recommendations and alarming experts.

“My response and sort of counsel to myself was to stay calm, and let’s see what happens, because there was no indication given as to how, why, when this potential shift would occur,” said Cheryl Anderson, an American Heart Association board member and professor at the University of California, San Diego’s school of public health and human longevity science. “The recommendation around saturated fat has been one of the most consistent recommendations since the first edition of the dietary guidelines.”

While Ronald Krauss, a professor of pediatrics and medicine at the University of California, San Francisco, who has researched saturated fats extensively, found that saturated fats may be less harmful than previously thought, he believes if “[Kennedy] is actually going to go out and say we should be eating more saturated fat, I think that’s really the wrong message”.

Kennedy has indicated that new dietary guidelines will “stress the need to eat saturated fats of dairy, of good meat, of fresh meat and vegetables … When we release those, it will give everybody the rationale for driving it into our schools,” according to recent reporting in the Hill. Krauss’s research shows that “saturated fat is relatively neutral” compared with what scientists have believed in the past.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/25/rfk-jr-saturated-fats



Head of the U.S. Death Panel™.
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RFK Jr to urge Americans to eat more saturated fats, alarming health experts (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 2025 OP
Butter and bacon and doughnuts, oh my! Midnight Writer Oct 2025 #1
Ha I was typing the same thing at the same time..... Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #3
And make sure you don't get tested! mpcamb Oct 2025 #16
You forgot cheeseburgers! Jack Valentino Oct 2025 #51
Increased fat and lower carbs does help type 2 diabetes Born Free Oct 2025 #85
ok Homer... keroro gunsou Oct 2025 #64
RFK Jr diet: Eat more sugar, donuts, ice cream, bacon, French fries. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #2
And road kill Zambero Oct 2025 #5
The more germs the better. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #8
... BumRushDaShow Oct 2025 #17
And fry those french fries in beef tallow instead of vegetable oil. Initech Oct 2025 #67
And smoke cigarettes and shoot up heroin too. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #68
And you know the seweage treatment plant where it says "do not swim"? Initech Oct 2025 #75
Beef tallow has been used for cooking for centuries womanofthehills Oct 2025 #69
Beef tallow is great for some things for sure. Initech Oct 2025 #77
With my air fryer I usually use olive oil womanofthehills Oct 2025 #82
A serial killer in full public view... hlthe2b Oct 2025 #4
Trump killed one million Americans during Covid. RFK Jr wants to beat that record. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #9
Maybe the problem will work itself out! Initech Oct 2025 #78
Silly contrarians don't realize the damage they do. thought crime Oct 2025 #57
Let's make those 1960s-style heart attacks Great Again! bucolic_frolic Oct 2025 #6
Guess that should be HAGA - Heart Attacks Great Again! /nt bucolic_frolic Oct 2025 #10
Bobby thinks that "Sleeper" is a documentary no_hypocrisy Oct 2025 #7
Fatten them up for what exactly? IronLionZion Oct 2025 #11
"Fatten them up for what exactly?" BumRushDaShow Oct 2025 #21
No need for a remake. We're living it. thought crime Oct 2025 #59
Whatever HE says, we need to do the OPPOSITE FakeNoose Oct 2025 #12
Dead heat for first place. mpcamb Oct 2025 #18
Yes except Chump has killed more people ... for now FakeNoose Oct 2025 #19
Do I eat the saturated fats before or after drinking the bleach that Trump recommended? Beartracks Oct 2025 #13
There's Ivermectin for dessert! Dave Bowman Oct 2025 #28
Be sure to add some wild mushrooms to your well-marbled beef. Ocelot II Oct 2025 #76
Alan Greyson (FL) was right in 2009: Republicans want you to die quickly. That's their health plan. flor-de-jasmim Oct 2025 #14
Alan Grayson is great! markodochartaigh Oct 2025 #22
And "we have death panels. They're called insurance companies." Evolve Dammit Oct 2025 #38
Among many other reasons too n/t Polybius Oct 2025 #44
Don't forget your daily dose of heroin. Buddyzbuddy Oct 2025 #15
My daily dose comes with a reminder JoseBalow Oct 2025 #20
Trump wants to take over the drug trade. So yes Americans need to do more drugs. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #26
Trumponomics: Oil, Crypto and Drugs. Oh yes, and tariffs. thought crime Oct 2025 #60
Yes and add sex trade. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #62
Brain diseased heroin addict with no medical education at all as head of HHS PSPS Oct 2025 #23
His dried prune-faced look is NOT a picture of health wolfie001 Oct 2025 #24
More fat, more sugar! Aussie105 Oct 2025 #25
Does anybody actually listen to this clown? Ritabert Oct 2025 #27
Apparently King Klown does. Dave Bowman Oct 2025 #29
King Klown pretends to listen. He got his Covid shot at his latest exam. Ritabert Oct 2025 #71
My parents drank scotch and water every night for about a decade when I was growing up. Then they'd get into a fight CTyankee Oct 2025 #30
No worries. At the rate we're going, most of us won't be able to afford "dairy, good meat, LoisB Oct 2025 #31
Somebody got to him. Who benefits? Demobrat Oct 2025 #32
RFK Jr. encourages Americans to 'smoke two packs of cigarettes per day Oeditpus Rex Oct 2025 #33
"Smoking cigarettes... is a health tool" JoseBalow Oct 2025 #40
Just wait, he'll get around to it. thought crime Oct 2025 #58
There's this dialogue in 'Sleeper,' a Woody Allen movie from 1973 Oeditpus Rex Oct 2025 #63
There is NO hope whatsoever MLWR Oct 2025 #34
Trump told him to say that to back up Trump's diet. Coke with surar cane too. Some whale head stew for dinner. twodogsbarking Oct 2025 #35
Urge all you want Bob, stage left Oct 2025 #36
Sounds Like Keto Deep State Witch Oct 2025 #37
Canola oil is reasonably good, but nothing like olive and avocado. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #39
Actually- I've been cooking in organic grass fed beef tallow womanofthehills Oct 2025 #46
There's zero evidence for their claims of seed oils and inflammation NickB79 Oct 2025 #49
It's basically processed foods vs natural womanofthehills Oct 2025 #83
There is nothing he's says that I would ever believe kimbutgar Oct 2025 #41
Wouldn't you like to see what Bob eats on a daily basis? Bayard Oct 2025 #42
RFK, Jr is the wrong guy to be telling Grammy23 Oct 2025 #43
It shocked me so much, I dropped the quart of Ben &Jerry's I was eating. Wonder Why Oct 2025 #45
Depends, he's so fucking ignorant it's hartd to tell what he's saying Warpy Oct 2025 #47
"Also -- let's all play more Russian roulette!" struggle4progress Oct 2025 #48
FORCE-FEED MORE SATURATED FATS INTO TRUMP !!!!! Jack Valentino Oct 2025 #50
Can't spell FREAK without an R, F, & K Blue Owl Oct 2025 #52
Invest in lard stocks NOW. Sneederbunk Oct 2025 #53
The good news is mercuryblues Oct 2025 #54
And for pain, Wolf Frankula Oct 2025 #55
OK, take everyone's healthcare away BigmanPigman Oct 2025 #56
I sure hope ... rustysgurl Oct 2025 #61
Quite a novel solution for saving the Social Security system! 70sEraVet Oct 2025 #65
Maybe the problem will work itself out! Initech Oct 2025 #66
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2025 #70
They are deliberately trying to kill us. travelingthrulife Oct 2025 #72
Not surprising. His boss recommends drinking chlorox. Martin68 Oct 2025 #73
Yeah, let's definitely follow the dietary practices of people from the era when life expectancy was 35. (nt) Pinback Oct 2025 #74
I urge RFK Jr to eat shit. Dave Bowman Oct 2025 #79
Every time I think I know how bat shit crazy RFK Jr is, he does something even more bat shit crazy. ShazzieB Oct 2025 #80
It will make you look better Turbineguy Oct 2025 #81
Worm ate my brain. What an a-hole. Let's see how many cardiologists are in agreement besides Dr's Phil and Oz.... Evolve Dammit Oct 2025 #84

Born Free

(1,650 posts)
85. Increased fat and lower carbs does help type 2 diabetes
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 07:14 PM
Oct 2025

Many people with type 2 diabetes have seen their HA1C levels drop after they increase fat intake and reduce carbohydrates. The best way to test it is to keep a diary of what you eat at a meal, and test the blood glucose levels at 1 and 2 hours later. It is easy to see what foods have the biggest effects. Many doing the high fat low carbohydrate diets have higher cholesterol at first but that seems to go down as the body adjusts. Crazy as it may seem, cheeseburgers are OK for type 2 diabetes, it is the bun that that raises the blood glucose level.

In theory anyone can test it with a cheap glucose meter and a few tests strips, eat a banana as recommended by nurses for a mid morning snack and check the blood glucose at 1 and 2 hours, than try eating meat and test the same way and see which gives you a lower glucose level reading.

Initech

(107,788 posts)
75. And you know the seweage treatment plant where it says "do not swim"?
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 01:30 PM
Oct 2025

Go ahead, swim in that shit! YOLO!

womanofthehills

(10,732 posts)
69. Beef tallow has been used for cooking for centuries
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 12:10 PM
Oct 2025

Look at how slim everyone was in the 50’s. I prefer organic grass fed beef tallow to chemically processed seed oils. Eggs fried in beef tallow are amazingly delicious. Now we are learning beef tallow from grass fed cows is rich in Vit A, D, E and K2.

It’s more stable for high heat frying as it doesn’t break down into harmful compounds So less processed than seed oils and no chemicals used in production.

Remember when we were told not to eat too many eggs??

Initech

(107,788 posts)
77. Beef tallow is great for some things for sure.
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 01:34 PM
Oct 2025

But it also has a high smoke point and can damage your fryer or cause burns if you don't know what you are doing. It's also more expensive too. Most restaurants use vegetable oil because it's cheap and easily disposable.

womanofthehills

(10,732 posts)
82. With my air fryer I usually use olive oil
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 04:21 PM
Oct 2025

But when I fry on the stove top,
I use Ghee or Beef Tallow.

hlthe2b

(113,050 posts)
4. A serial killer in full public view...
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 04:52 PM
Oct 2025

If only that brain cyst, or his chronic mercury poisoning, or his history of heroin abuse, or all his anabolic steroid use, or his insane desire to kill young and old, just to make some ridiculous point, would combine to bring him his long-delayed Karma.

Initech

(107,788 posts)
78. Maybe the problem will work itself out!
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 01:36 PM
Oct 2025

I'm convinced there's no corporation on earth that hates its' customers more than News Corporation. Of which there are many former employees of that organization employed in this horrible administration.

bucolic_frolic

(54,297 posts)
6. Let's make those 1960s-style heart attacks Great Again!
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 04:55 PM
Oct 2025

There's tradeoffs to everything. Dairy, beef, trans fats do one thing, seed oils do another, Keto does something else.

Beartracks

(14,424 posts)
13. Do I eat the saturated fats before or after drinking the bleach that Trump recommended?
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 05:08 PM
Oct 2025

It's so confusing.

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flor-de-jasmim

(2,267 posts)
14. Alan Greyson (FL) was right in 2009: Republicans want you to die quickly. That's their health plan.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 05:11 PM
Oct 2025

And... he lost his seat in the H of Reps. for saying it.

Irish_Dem

(80,235 posts)
26. Trump wants to take over the drug trade. So yes Americans need to do more drugs.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:08 PM
Oct 2025

Cha Ching for Trump.

PSPS

(15,244 posts)
23. Brain diseased heroin addict with no medical education at all as head of HHS
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 05:28 PM
Oct 2025

Everything he says is "alarming health experts." Bob, himself, is "alarming health experts." Yet the republican senate actually confirmed him.

Aussie105

(7,691 posts)
25. More fat, more sugar!
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:02 PM
Oct 2025

Clog those arteries, get heart problems by the age of 35!
If you are lucky, you might just get diabetes only.

Oh wait . . . check your health cover first, those few who actually have that.
Self inflicted medical problems may not be covered!

CTyankee

(67,867 posts)
30. My parents drank scotch and water every night for about a decade when I was growing up. Then they'd get into a fight
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:40 PM
Oct 2025

about something and start yelling at each other. I was a scared kid listening to that...

LoisB

(12,479 posts)
31. No worries. At the rate we're going, most of us won't be able to afford "dairy, good meat,
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:54 PM
Oct 2025

fresh meat and vegetables". We'll be eating dandelion soup and trying to catch fish from polluted rivers.

Demobrat

(10,266 posts)
32. Somebody got to him. Who benefits?
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:55 PM
Oct 2025

Dairy farmers? Cholesterol drug manufacturers? Heart surgeons?

 

Oeditpus Rex

(43,094 posts)
33. RFK Jr. encourages Americans to 'smoke two packs of cigarettes per day
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:59 PM
Oct 2025

WASHINGTON (Not the Onion; just me) -- Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. today encouraged Americans to smoke at least two packs of unfiltered cigarettes per day.

The controversial Secretary said smokung "strengthens the body's autoimmune system" against the common cold virus and various types of cancer, including lung cancer.

Kennedy added that people over 40 who've never smoked "have some catching up to do" and should smoke at least three packs per day. There are 20 cigarettes in a pack.

"We all need to toughen up our iimmune system, for obvious reasons," Kennedy said. "Look at me. I did a lot of heroin, cocaine, pills in my 20s, and now I'm a fucking Cabinet. I'm 10th in line to the supreme leader. Top that, pig fuckers!"

 

Oeditpus Rex

(43,094 posts)
63. There's this dialogue in 'Sleeper,' a Woody Allen movie from 1973
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 07:00 AM
Oct 2025

that's a lot like "Idiocracy," except this future isn't filled with right-wingers. If JFKJr.'s seen it, he probably will. (I imagine Allen's one of his heroes.)

Dr. Orva: "Here, smoke this. And be sure you get the smoke deep down into your lungs."

Miles Monroe (Allen, dude from 200 years in the past): "I don't smoke."

Dr. Orva: "It's tobacco! It's one of the healthiest things for your body!"

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070707/quotes?item=qt3979090

MLWR

(837 posts)
34. There is NO hope whatsoever
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 07:00 PM
Oct 2025

for anyone who takes his/her medical advice from RFK Jr. anyhow.

twodogsbarking

(17,733 posts)
35. Trump told him to say that to back up Trump's diet. Coke with surar cane too. Some whale head stew for dinner.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 07:03 PM
Oct 2025

Deep State Witch

(12,626 posts)
37. Sounds Like Keto
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 07:16 PM
Oct 2025

A lot of people in the keto-verse are into animal fats. Okay, I'll admit that butter is better for you than margarine. And bacon grease is great to cook some things with. But I draw the line at beef tallow. Ick.

They are correct about seed oils, especially canola oil, causing inflammation. I've switched to cooking with olive or avocado oil. However, they have put tariffs on Mexican avocados and olive oil from Europe. If you're going to encourage people to eat healthier, they need to lower the price to make the good stuff competitive with the bad stuff.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
39. Canola oil is reasonably good, but nothing like olive and avocado.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 07:37 PM
Oct 2025

I fry and roast with avocado oil and put olive oil on everything else. Those are the only two I use.

Here avocado and EV olive oil are about the same price, since olive oil rose due to climate disturbances. I don't know about the US.

womanofthehills

(10,732 posts)
46. Actually- I've been cooking in organic grass fed beef tallow
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 09:10 PM
Oct 2025

My friends said best eggs they ever had. Of course, the eggs were from my organically fed chickens. I also make home made organic tortillas with beef tallow as they taste more like old fashioned Mexican tortillas. Also, beef tallow is a great facial moisturizer - slather on on your face before going to bed.

Mostly Carnivore diet is big now among body builders and people wanting to lose weight. Lots of eggs, meat, bacon, butter, yogurt, a few veggies esp fatty ones like avocado - but no grains or sugar. Many Carnivore body builders say they take one teaspoon of honey a day for their sugar receptors. I would gross out with so few vegetables but tens of thousands on online forums are on Carnivore diets - many saying their health has improved- who really knows?

GMO free grass fed butter from Ireland is very popular right now & super delicious and definitely healthier than margarine or seed oils which are highly processed with chemicals. Even Walmart carries this Irish butter along with beef tallow.

The times they are a changin’ with lots of nutritionists recommending this diet.

Personally- I avoid processed foods, eat lots of protein, make my own sourdough bread and grow mini tomatoes & greens in my south windows. Being I have chickens, I eat lots of eggs every way you can - raw, hard boiled, omelet, over easy etc.

Being I live in ranch land, I can get grass fed/grass finished beef. In fact, when I’ve left my gate open, I’ve had neighboring cattle wander around my place.

NickB79

(20,272 posts)
49. There's zero evidence for their claims of seed oils and inflammation
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 09:47 PM
Oct 2025

For every study that found a link, another one found none.

There is no scientific consensus.

womanofthehills

(10,732 posts)
83. It's basically processed foods vs natural
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 04:51 PM
Oct 2025

You can buy more expensive olive oil that’s cold-pressed or expeller- pressed in a dark bottle to help preserve it. No chemicals used

However, cheaper oils often use the solvent hexane for extraction, plus sodium hydroxide, citric acid, plus bleaching and deodorizing agents. These chemicals can degrade any vitamins in these oils.

Pressed olive oil contains vit K & E and polyphenols ( polyphenols are anti-inflammatory.). Best to buy small bottles of olive oil that’s you use up within a month & keep in a dark place to get max nutrients.

kimbutgar

(26,950 posts)
41. There is nothing he's says that I would ever believe
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:17 PM
Oct 2025

DEI Didn’t earn it only by having the family name is where he is today. He’s be a drunk homeless bum if he wasn’t a member of the Kennedy family

Bayard

(28,871 posts)
42. Wouldn't you like to see what Bob eats on a daily basis?
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:18 PM
Oct 2025

I'd also like to see the qualifications of physicians that give him advice/guidance.

Grammy23

(6,098 posts)
43. RFK, Jr is the wrong guy to be telling
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:41 PM
Oct 2025

U.S. anything to do about our health. There are changing guidelines about a lot of traditional dietary advice. And millions of people around the world have made significant changes to their nutrition without sacrificing their health. But if anyone thinks RFK,Jr is the guy to help us understand any of it, they need to get better acquainted with that madman. He has no credentials or education to explain how to turn on a stove, much less what kind of food we should consume.

Warpy

(114,451 posts)
47. Depends, he's so fucking ignorant it's hartd to tell what he's saying
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 09:10 PM
Oct 2025

There are naturally occurrint saturated fats like lard, butter, and other animal fats. Then there's the artificially produced trans fats that are stable at room temperature for weeks or months but whiich are a good idea to avoid since they tend to plaster themselves on the insides of your arteries. If he's talking about naturally occurring saturated fat versus laboratory created trans fats, he's got a point, the naturally occurring stuff is less damaging.

However, he's so fucking stupid that who knows?

mercuryblues

(16,202 posts)
54. The good news is
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 10:35 PM
Oct 2025

Only the MAGots will completely follow this advice and they'll die off sooner rather than later.
It's what they voted for.

BigmanPigman

(54,707 posts)
56. OK, take everyone's healthcare away
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 12:12 AM
Oct 2025

That means more $$$$ for MAGA!

I told you his agenda is to bankrupt then kill Americans as he destroys the USA in our faces every fucking day!!!!!

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Pinback

(13,526 posts)
74. Yeah, let's definitely follow the dietary practices of people from the era when life expectancy was 35. (nt)
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 01:23 PM
Oct 2025

ShazzieB

(22,293 posts)
80. Every time I think I know how bat shit crazy RFK Jr is, he does something even more bat shit crazy.
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 02:59 PM
Oct 2025

I've become convinced that there is literally no bottom to his bat shittery.

Frontline on PBS recebtly ran a 2 hour documentary called The Rise of RFK Jr. I watched it last night and came away even more convinced of how deranged he is. It wasn't a fun watch, but it was a very informative one. It's available on YouTube if anyone is interested.


Evolve Dammit

(21,568 posts)
84. Worm ate my brain. What an a-hole. Let's see how many cardiologists are in agreement besides Dr's Phil and Oz....
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 06:12 PM
Oct 2025
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