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mahatmakanejeeves

(69,266 posts)
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 07:07 AM Dec 2025

Survivors of Boat Strike Were Actively Continuing Drug Mission, Admiral to Tell Lawmakers

Source: The Wall Street Journal.

exclusive * National Security

Survivors of Boat Strike Were Actively Continuing Drug Mission, Admiral to Tell Lawmakers

Commander of September attack to provide account of his role for the first time in closed briefing

By Shelby Holliday and Alexander Ward
Dec. 3, 2025 8:04 pm ET

WASHINGTON--Two survivors of a Sept. 2 U.S. strike on a boat in the Caribbean were killed in follow-up attacks after they were seen still aboard the damaged vessel alongside packages of illegal narcotics, a senior commander is expected to tell lawmakers Thursday.

Adm. Frank "Mitch" Bradley plans to say he and his legal adviser concluded the two survivors were attempting to continue their drug run, making them and the already-damaged vessel legitimate targets for another attack, two defense officials said.

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https://www.wsj.com/news/author/shelby-holliday
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Hat tip, Ken White ("Popehat&quot

If after we blow your boat up you still float, you are a witch, so we can kill you. If you drown you are not a witch.

Special Envoy for the Shield of the Popehats (@kenwhite.bsky.social) 2025-12-04T02:39:31.603Z


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Popehat of Serious Proportion
‪@kenwhite.bsky.social‬

If after we blow your boat up you still float, you are a witch, so we can kill you. If you drown you are not a witch.

‪Kai Ryssdal‬
‪@kairyssdal.bsky.social‬
· 8h
Hoooooooo boy

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/survivors-of-boat-strike-were-actively-continuing-drug-mission-admiral-to-tell-lawmakers-b82f0ab3

Exclusive Survivors of Boat Strike Were Actively Continuing Drug Mission, Admiral to Tell Lawmakers
Adm. Frank "Mitch" Bradley, the commander of the September attack, is set to provide an account of his role for the first time in a closed briefing.
www.wsj.com
Dec 3, 2025, 9:39 PM
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Hoooooooo boy

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Kai Ryssdal
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Hoooooooo boy

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/survivors-of-boat-strike-were-actively-continuing-drug-mission-admiral-to-tell-lawmakers-b82f0ab3

Exclusive Survivors of Boat Strike Were Actively Continuing Drug Mission, Admiral to Tell Lawmakers
Adm. Frank "Mitch" Bradley, the commander of the September attack, is set to provide an account of his role for the first time in a closed briefing.
www.wsj.com
Dec 3, 2025, 9:11 PM
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Survivors of Boat Strike Were Actively Continuing Drug Mission, Admiral to Tell Lawmakers (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2025 OP
Frank Bradley's story is a dog and that dog won't hunt. mobeau69 Dec 2025 #1
What! A missile just destroyed their vessel but they Buddyzbuddy Dec 2025 #2
He's a lying sack of sh*t NotHardly Dec 2025 #73
Agreed Buddyzbuddy Dec 2025 #74
The USG has a new explanation on why they (now admittedly) intentionally killed 2 shipwrecked men. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2025 #3
Good job for him ridicule isn't lethal TubbersUK Dec 2025 #4
What happened to the video where 'two survivors are seen clinging to the sinkingfeeling Dec 2025 #5
Right. Hold onto the wreckage Seinan Sensei Dec 2025 #62
Using a bale of (drugs) BidenRocks Dec 2025 #69
He got that one from the cops exboyfil Dec 2025 #6
General Bradley's full of shit. BradBo Dec 2025 #7
... 2naSalit Dec 2025 #8
Try that defense at your liberalgunwilltravel Dec 2025 #9
Didn't work at Nuremberg, not going to work now. Ray Bruns Dec 2025 #24
yeah, cool story bro. Javaman Dec 2025 #10
They watch too many cartoons Marthe48 Dec 2025 #11
Quiet, Piggy orangecrush Dec 2025 #12
Yesterday I felt sorry for this guy for being their scapegoat; babylonsister Dec 2025 #13
They were going to find someone who would do what they wanted. Ray Bruns Dec 2025 #25
It makes no sense because drug-trafficking VTderry Dec 2025 #41
His face! Seinan Sensei Dec 2025 #75
They should have blown themselves up. nt BootinUp Dec 2025 #14
I have some beachfront property in Arizona that I would like to sell ashredux Dec 2025 #15
Hey, they can say anything they want. infullview Dec 2025 #16
There are at least two witnesses from the previous boats they blew up travelingthrulife Dec 2025 #29
The White House's initial explanation for the second strike was, 70sEraVet Dec 2025 #17
I read that he is/was a highly decorated and respected military officer. Katinfl Dec 2025 #18
Even if he is "cleared"... Random Boomer Dec 2025 #67
Echoes of Rudi Ghouliani /nt dickthegrouch Dec 2025 #76
So, tell us, Admiral: AverageOldGuy Dec 2025 #19
There's no statute of limitations on murder Prairie Gates Dec 2025 #20
Life in prison is what he's facing. Hope he thinks Emile Dec 2025 #21
The Admiral is in on it! GCG Dec 2025 #22
Yeah, that's the ticket- They were strapping bales of cocaine to their backs, and swimming up to the USA, see . . . NBachers Dec 2025 #23
No no dickthegrouch Dec 2025 #77
OMG. He deserves to go to jail if that is what he is using as an excuse for murder. travelingthrulife Dec 2025 #26
And the Titanic was continuing its journey to New York after it struck the iceberg. Ray Bruns Dec 2025 #27
Now we know why Adm. Alvin Holsey resigned orangecrush Dec 2025 #28
Well, we now know there is one Admiral in their pocket. How many more bluestarone Dec 2025 #30
Are we going to hear why the other Admiral Holsey resigned, wasn't it because doc03 Dec 2025 #31
Yes, that is what was reported Deminpenn Dec 2025 #65
We have seen this movie before, they doc03 Dec 2025 #32
The Democrats damn well better be against this claim. gab13by13 Dec 2025 #34
Lieutenant William Calley would be proud of this Admiral. Emile Dec 2025 #49
The lawyer who came up with this tale, gab13by13 Dec 2025 #33
He's so stupid he thinks everyone else is stupid but him. twodogsbarking Dec 2025 #35
"Actively Continuing" - What specific actions? Did they get the boat motor started? Oars in place? Norrrm Dec 2025 #36
How, exactly, sans boat? CanonRay Dec 2025 #37
Live updates: Navy admiral who ordered attack that killed boat strike survivors briefs lawmakers mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2025 #38
The "b" verb for what he's doing VTderry Dec 2025 #42
They were both Olympic-caliber long-distance swimmers. Makes perfect sense to me. Borogove Dec 2025 #39
Oh, please! returnee Dec 2025 #40
they really really think Americans are stupid Nigrum Cattus Dec 2025 #43
Much depends on how he begins his testimony. cloudbase Dec 2025 #44
Got to go with BidenRocks Dec 2025 #70
Any naval officer that thinks survivors of a destroyed boat are fair game needs to be removed from his position. patphil Dec 2025 #45
Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire. BComplex Dec 2025 #46
Absurd lies of a war criminal Mysterian Dec 2025 #47
No sir MustLoveBeagles Dec 2025 #48
What next, they smelled marijuana? twodogsbarking Dec 2025 #50
Probably swimming towards US with several kilos on their backs. Sneederbunk Dec 2025 #51
Colonel Bogey March struggle4progress Dec 2025 #52
Liar CMA position SayItLoud Dec 2025 #53
I expect that inane BS from a MAGAt but not an Admiral. Their x-ray vision showed drugs in packages? flashman13 Dec 2025 #54
Horseshit orangecrush Dec 2025 #55
They NEVER mention the drug boats were not headed towards the U.S. summer_in_TX Dec 2025 #56
Where do you get employees like that? Retrograde Dec 2025 #57
This position came from the lawyers who are trying to avoid this guy being charged with a war crime LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2025 #58
Is that like football's Brady rule for maritime law or something? pecosbob Dec 2025 #59
Absolutely laughable. Happy Hoosier Dec 2025 #60
Still a war crime IbogaProject Dec 2025 #61
Please. Please. Please. SusieCreamcheese Dec 2025 #63
Shorter: Bradley plans to lie under oath Deminpenn Dec 2025 #64
What utter bullshit... GiqueCee Dec 2025 #66
Primitive. Marcuse Dec 2025 #68
Not in Japanese culture. BidenRocks Dec 2025 #71
True, but this swordsman is not a yoriki. Hegseth delivered a similar coup d'gras. War crime or police crime? Marcuse Dec 2025 #72
They really think we are as stupid as they are Bayard Dec 2025 #78
Trump is a thug... GiqueCee Dec 2025 #79
The are using AI for stupid. It can't be natural. twodogsbarking Dec 2025 #80

Buddyzbuddy

(2,448 posts)
2. What! A missile just destroyed their vessel but they
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 07:30 AM
Dec 2025

stopped to secure the drugs (not in evidence) find some oars and started paddling to their destination?
Yeah, nice try.

mahatmakanejeeves

(69,266 posts)
3. The USG has a new explanation on why they (now admittedly) intentionally killed 2 shipwrecked men.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 07:35 AM
Dec 2025

Reposted by Popehat of Serious Proportion
https://bsky.app/profile/kenwhite.bsky.social

‪Ryan Goodman
‪@rgoodlaw.bsky.social‬

The USG has a new explanation on why they (now admittedly) intentionally killed 2 shipwrecked men. It does not pass the laws-of-war smell test

Worse for Hegseth, NYT: "Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth approved contingency plans for what to do if an initial strike left survivors."

1/🧵

U.S. Military’s Boat Strikes Planning Takes On New Significance
www.nytimes.com
Dec 3, 2025, 9:25 PM

The USG has a new explanation on why they (now admittedly) intentionally killed 2 shipwrecked men. It does not pass the laws-of-war smell test

Worse for Hegseth, NYT: "Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth approved contingency plans for what to do if an initial strike left survivors."

1/🧵

Ryan Goodman (@rgoodlaw.bsky.social) 2025-12-04T02:25:08.582Z

TubbersUK

(1,517 posts)
4. Good job for him ridicule isn't lethal
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 07:35 AM
Dec 2025

Because he's going to experience a great deal of it if he goes with that defence.

BidenRocks

(3,161 posts)
69. Using a bale of (drugs)
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 07:24 PM
Dec 2025

as a floatation device makes sense.

The interpretation is insanely absurd!

We spent 100K on a missile to kill two humans.

We could drop an iron BDU (bomb dummy unit, no bang), and sink the boat.

The explosions are ego, not effectiveness or cost benefit.

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,182 posts)
9. Try that defense at your
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 08:30 AM
Dec 2025

Court-Martial. It would be better to describe the underside of the bus and detail how and why you got there, rather than further destroy your reputation with such an absurd defense.

babylonsister

(172,716 posts)
13. Yesterday I felt sorry for this guy for being their scapegoat;
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 09:34 AM
Dec 2025

today, I have no such sentiments. CYA all the way. His story makes no sense considering there was hardly any boat left.

Seinan Sensei

(1,503 posts)
75. His face!
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 09:21 PM
Dec 2025

Last edited Thu Dec 4, 2025, 11:12 PM - Edit history (1)

He looks like he saw the.Ghost of Christmas Future

The only question is - will he be charged with a war crime, or will he be charged with murder?

ashredux

(2,926 posts)
15. I have some beachfront property in Arizona that I would like to sell
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 09:45 AM
Dec 2025

I’ll let it go for a good price…

Their stories get more bizarre as time goes on.

infullview

(1,126 posts)
16. Hey, they can say anything they want.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 09:45 AM
Dec 2025

There are no witnesses, no physical evidence, just their story. I hope they make it a good one to tell at their war crimes trial

travelingthrulife

(5,050 posts)
29. There are at least two witnesses from the previous boats they blew up
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 10:56 AM
Dec 2025

Someone needs to get their stories before these guys have them killed.

70sEraVet

(5,430 posts)
17. The White House's initial explanation for the second strike was,
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 09:49 AM
Dec 2025

The second strike was to remove a navigation hazard to other vessels.
Now, it's that they were worried that the survivors would be able to continue their drug run?
First the wreckage was a 'navigational hazard' that had to be removed, but now it was a boat that was capable of continuing its mission and had to be destroyed again?

Katinfl

(772 posts)
18. I read that he is/was a highly decorated and respected military officer.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 09:50 AM
Dec 2025

What a way to end your career. CYA for these idiots. The way I see it, several people carried out these illegal orders. Whoever actually “pulled the trigger” is also to blame. This is one hell of a mess.

Random Boomer

(4,400 posts)
67. Even if he is "cleared"...
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 06:23 PM
Dec 2025

His name will always be associated with a war crime and the corrupt administration that used a "Get out of jail free" card for murder.

AverageOldGuy

(3,715 posts)
19. So, tell us, Admiral:
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 09:55 AM
Dec 2025

How did you know what was in the "packages?"

And while you are at it, tell us how our weapons are not sufficiently powerful to destroy a 35-foot cigarette boat and everything in and around it?

GCG

(68 posts)
22. The Admiral is in on it!
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 10:31 AM
Dec 2025

He plans to spin a yarn that makes Muppets Treasure Island look like a documentary.

If the Admiral lies, and it appears that's exactly what he's going to do...then he is complicit in the murder of two men and is no better than Trump or Hegseth!!!

NBachers

(19,379 posts)
23. Yeah, that's the ticket- They were strapping bales of cocaine to their backs, and swimming up to the USA, see . . .
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 10:35 AM
Dec 2025

dickthegrouch

(4,470 posts)
77. No no
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 10:49 PM
Dec 2025

They were trying to enlist narwhals to act as their engines and tow them to the US coast.

bluestarone

(22,018 posts)
30. Well, we now know there is one Admiral in their pocket. How many more
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 11:01 AM
Dec 2025

Admirals, or generals do they own?

doc03

(39,032 posts)
31. Are we going to hear why the other Admiral Holsey resigned, wasn't it because
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 11:03 AM
Dec 2025

of unlawful orders and Kegseth?

doc03

(39,032 posts)
32. We have seen this movie before, they
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 11:18 AM
Dec 2025

are going to make the Democrats are against the military claim again. Oliver North

gab13by13

(31,965 posts)
34. The Democrats damn well better be against this claim.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 11:20 AM
Dec 2025

The remaining 2 people are still shipwrecked people.

gab13by13

(31,965 posts)
33. The lawyer who came up with this tale,
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 11:18 AM
Dec 2025

is about to get a promotion.

Everyone in the chain of command, from Krasnov to the person who pulled the trigger is guilty of murder.

Even if this lie were true and there were 2 men left with some cocaine left and a partially disabled boat left, killing them is still murder.
Also, let's not be gaslit, the other 9 people on the boat were also murdered.

Norrrm

(4,773 posts)
36. "Actively Continuing" - What specific actions? Did they get the boat motor started? Oars in place?
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 11:39 AM
Dec 2025

..

mahatmakanejeeves

(69,266 posts)
38. Live updates: Navy admiral who ordered attack that killed boat strike survivors briefs lawmakers
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 11:50 AM
Dec 2025
Live updates: Navy admiral who ordered attack that killed boat strike survivors briefs lawmakers

Follow the latest news on President Donald Trump and his administration | December 4, 2025

Edited By BRIDGET BROWN, BERNARD MCGHEE and CURTIS YEE
Updated 10:41 AM EST, December 4, 2025

The Navy admiral who reportedly issued orders for the U.S. military to fire upon survivors of an attack on an alleged drug boat is on Capitol Hill for a classified briefing with top congressional lawmakers overseeing national security.

The information from Adm. Frank “Mitch” Bradley, who is now the commander of U.S. Special Operations Command, comes at a potentially crucial moment in the unfolding congressional investigation into how Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth handled the military operation in international waters near Venezuela. There are mounting questions over whether the strike may have violated the law.

The briefing in secure facility at the Capitol is with congressional leaders, including the Republican chairs and ranking Democrats of the House and Senate Armed Services committees, and separately to the GOP chairman and Democratic vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

{snip}

returnee

(905 posts)
40. Oh, please!
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 12:16 PM
Dec 2025

This is shameless, exceedingly condescending, and, need it actually be said, an outright self-serving concocted lie. Can this possibly hold up to any honest scrutiny?

Nigrum Cattus

(1,282 posts)
43. they really really think Americans are stupid
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 12:35 PM
Dec 2025

what were they suppose to do swim 50 miles with
blown up cocaine on their backs ?
If any American admiral says that to congress they
need to resign the next day

cloudbase

(6,254 posts)
44. Much depends on how he begins his testimony.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 12:47 PM
Dec 2025

He can start with "once upon a time" or "this ain't no shit."

patphil

(8,966 posts)
45. Any naval officer that thinks survivors of a destroyed boat are fair game needs to be removed from his position.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 01:04 PM
Dec 2025

Not only does their death violate the UCMJ, but also international law.

BComplex

(9,862 posts)
46. Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 01:23 PM
Dec 2025

He's going to (metaphorically) hang for his association with this fiasco. Right wingers are so dumb.

flashman13

(2,312 posts)
54. I expect that inane BS from a MAGAt but not an Admiral. Their x-ray vision showed drugs in packages?
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 03:31 PM
Dec 2025

We all know how drug agents love to stack tableshigh with bricks of seized drugs. Call me naive, but show me the goods before you tell me your fairy tale.

summer_in_TX

(4,123 posts)
56. They NEVER mention the drug boats were not headed towards the U.S.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 04:29 PM
Dec 2025

Those boats were headed to the ABC Islands (Aruba, Bonaire, and Curaçao) off the coast of Venezuela. Guess what? Those islands are Dutch-owned. Drugs going there are destined for Europe, not the U.S.

Drugs from Colombia destined for the U.S. go to the Yucatán, then through Mexico to the U.S.

Nor do they make it clear that the boats are Columbian, not Venezuelan. They're quite content encouraging murkiness about the whole operation. How many Americans have any idea of that?

But blowing up of the boats are very clearly direct intimidation of the Venezuelan government.

The two survivors were Columbian. The family that filed the human rights complaint are also Columbian.

The whole justification the Trump administration is using for these attacks is another filthy lie.

What do they want? Oil and gas of course. Plus Maduro gone. Trump's earlier failure to get rid of him is bound to be galling.

Retrograde

(11,413 posts)
57. Where do you get employees like that?
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 04:32 PM
Dec 2025

Their workplace - the boat - gets blown up, most of their colleagues are killed, they're adrift in the Caribbean miles from shore, they may be injured themselves, and still they carry on with their nefarious mission. And here American workers complain about having to work 60 hour weeks with no overtime and dwindling safety measures, the whiners.

LetMyPeopleVote

(178,604 posts)
58. This position came from the lawyers who are trying to avoid this guy being charged with a war crime
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 04:36 PM
Dec 2025

IbogaProject

(5,800 posts)
61. Still a war crime
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 05:21 PM
Dec 2025

On top of due process issues. Those men are still leagally innocent until at least charged via credible evidence. And now it is too late to charge, as that "mission" surley wasnt under the auspices if warrent or similar legal declaration

SusieCreamcheese

(42 posts)
63. Please. Please. Please.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 05:50 PM
Dec 2025

Venezuela does not produce Fentanyl, nor is it a transit country for Fentanyl. Let's start right THERE. With THAT lie.

GiqueCee

(3,918 posts)
66. What utter bullshit...
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 06:12 PM
Dec 2025

... no one is going to "continue their drug run" when the boat is already blown to smithereens. What did President Sleazebag have on you that made you to agree to take the fall for an incompetent, drunken shitweasel with a neo-Nazi tattoo on his right tit?

BidenRocks

(3,161 posts)
71. Not in Japanese culture.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 08:08 PM
Dec 2025

I do Seppuku and my second chops before I dishonor my death by jerking and other stuff.

Dishonorable death is the opposite.

Marcuse

(8,956 posts)
72. True, but this swordsman is not a yoriki. Hegseth delivered a similar coup d'gras. War crime or police crime?
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 08:28 PM
Dec 2025

Bayard

(29,398 posts)
78. They really think we are as stupid as they are
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 12:55 AM
Dec 2025

We are supposed to believe that a couple of guys, who were just blown up and clinging to wreckage, are planning on paddling on to the U.S. with their cargo (probably fish.) How do they keep a straight face when they're saying this?

GiqueCee

(3,918 posts)
79. Trump is a thug...
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 09:26 AM
Dec 2025

... he threatens people with bodily harm to them and/or their loved ones. It is stochastic terrorism; the malignant filth that still worship his fat, pimply ass will do the wetwork because he's too old, weak, and cowardly to do it himself. His victims never know when, where, or by whom they might be attacked, which multiplies the terror aspect exponentially.
His lies no longer protect him, and he knows it, but because he's always doubled down, he'll continue to escalate his malice until he resorts to brazen mass murder. HINT: There's a very real possibility that he's on the brink of that monstrous crime even as we speak. The evidence is there for all to see, and we can't turn away because it's everywhere.
Watch your six.

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