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BumRushDaShow

(168,889 posts)
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 09:58 AM Dec 2025

New York Times Sues A.I. Start-Up Perplexity Over Use of Copyrighted Work

Source: New York Times

Dec. 5, 2025, 8:14 a.m. ET


The New York Times claimed in a lawsuit on Friday that its copyrights were repeatedly violated by Perplexity, an artificial intelligence start-up that has built a cutting-edge internet search engine. The Times said in its lawsuit that it had contacted Perplexity several times over the past 18 months, demanding that the start-up stop using the publication’s content until the two companies negotiated an agreement. But Perplexity continued to use The Times’s material.

The suit, filed in federal court in New York, is the latest in a growing legal battle between copyright holders and A.I. companies that includes more than 40 cases around the country. In August 2024, Dow Jones, owner of The Wall Street Journal, The New York Post and other publications, made similar claims in another lawsuit against Perplexity.

The suit is also the second that The Times has filed against A.I. companies. In December 2023, The Times sued OpenAI and its partner Microsoft, arguing that the companies trained their A.I. systems using millions of articles published by The Times without offering compensation. Microsoft and OpenAI, the maker of the chatbot ChatGPT, have disputed the claims.

Perplexity, a San Francisco company founded in 2022 by a former OpenAI engineer and other entrepreneurs, operates a search engine powered by the same type of A.I. technology that underpins ChatGPT.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/05/technology/new-york-times-perplexity-ai-lawsuit.html



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New York Times Sues A.I. Start-Up Perplexity Over Use of Copyrighted Work (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 2025 OP
That's an interesting case IronLionZion Dec 2025 #1
Some background on Perplexity: highplainsdem Dec 2025 #2
Good to know. IronLionZion Dec 2025 #3
A class action suit against another AI giant, Anthropic, was successful, with a $1.5B settlement. TheRickles Dec 2025 #4
It's interesting that Anthropic would be worth that much, or anywhere near it FakeNoose Dec 2025 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Dec 2025 #6

IronLionZion

(51,147 posts)
1. That's an interesting case
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 10:15 AM
Dec 2025

since Perplexity claims they combine the collective models of ChatGPT, Claude, and Gemini. I'm not sure why anyone would pay for Perplexity when the underlying models are free.

I suppose the lawsuit's point is the NY Times wants people to pay for NY Times content. At the risk of incriminating myself, I'm sure many of us have used such tools to get around paywalls.

highplainsdem

(61,690 posts)
2. Some background on Perplexity:
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 10:51 AM
Dec 2025

Forbes editor is NOT happy with how Perplexity AI lifted much of a Forbes article for an AI summary and buried the link
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219016558


Perplexity Is a Bullshit Machine (article from Wired on how the AI search engine produces BS answers & scrapes sites)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219045577

FakeNoose

(41,295 posts)
5. It's interesting that Anthropic would be worth that much, or anywhere near it
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 01:26 PM
Dec 2025

How do the AI companies make their dough these days anyway? It seems they give everything away for free, including intellectual property they don't own.

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