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groundloop

(13,553 posts)
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 11:37 AM 17 hrs ago

Wall Street buying potential Trump tariff refunds for pennies on the dollar

Source: Reuters

Some U.S. companies are hedging their bets on the Supreme Court case against President Donald Trump's sweeping emergency tariffs by selling their rights to collect potential government refunds of the taxes to outside investors.

Mark Mintman, the company's CFO, calls it a "cost recovery action." He first heard about selling potential refunds during a September meeting with bankers in New York, where one mentioned that a secretive market has emerged for selling the claims.

Under the deals, companies receive a fraction of the refund as an upfront payment. They keep that money if the tariffs are overturned and the government is directed to refund the taxes, but they give up the balance to the investors. They also keep the money if the tariffs are upheld, while investors get nothing.

This is just the latest twist on Wall Street’s keen ability to capitalize on cash flow. Similar markets exist for selling future payments from structured lawsuit settlements and lottery-winning annuities. David Bowie famously sold his royalty cash flow in what became known as "Bowie Bonds."

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/business/companies-collecting-pennies-dollar-market-recoup-some-tariff-costs-2025-12-23/

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Wall Street buying potential Trump tariff refunds for pennies on the dollar (Original Post) groundloop 17 hrs ago OP
Either way, the consumers who ultimately paid them ThoughtCriminal 16 hrs ago #1
Agreed MichMan 9 hrs ago #4
If Wall Street racks up enough potential profit from this scheme ToxMarz 14 hrs ago #2
When there are no "cops" on the beat anymore they're gonna rob with impunity n/t Cheezoholic 11 hrs ago #3
Is there ANYTHING that cannot be gambled on in this country? slightlv 8 hrs ago #5
Trump: " Tariffs have brought in bazillions of dollars from foreigners. No refunds. No problem. " Marcuse 3 hrs ago #6

MichMan

(16,532 posts)
4. Agreed
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 06:44 PM
9 hrs ago

Last edited Tue Dec 23, 2025, 07:31 PM - Edit history (1)

If I had to pay an extra $1.22 on a widget because of a tariff, I expect that I should be refunded $1.22 by the retailer. Add to that everything else I purchased from them during the year.

ToxMarz

(2,727 posts)
2. If Wall Street racks up enough potential profit from this scheme
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 02:30 PM
14 hrs ago

they will ensure they get their payday come hell or high water. They don't take losses easily. Trump will get his refunds funded whether there is money to pay for them or not. Just add em to the debt, or find some more poor people to pay for them.

slightlv

(7,396 posts)
5. Is there ANYTHING that cannot be gambled on in this country?
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 07:58 PM
8 hrs ago

This is not capitalism... this is cannibalism.

Marcuse

(8,754 posts)
6. Trump: " Tariffs have brought in bazillions of dollars from foreigners. No refunds. No problem. "
Wed Dec 24, 2025, 01:27 AM
3 hrs ago
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