Trump's Commerce Secretary Claims 'All' Americans 'Are Going To Earn 4.3% More Money' Because the Economy Grew by 4.3%
Source: MEDIAite
Dec 23rd, 2025, 9:48 pm
Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick offered an odd interpretation of some positive economic data that his department released on Tuesday. The Commerce Department released a report showing that the U.S. economy grew by 4.3% in the third quarter, beating the consensus expectation of 3.2%. Government spending and rising exports helped boost much of the growth.
Lutnick appeared on Tuesdays edition of Hannity on Fox News, where he alleged that the rise in the nations gross domestic product means a corresponding increase in the amount of money every single American is making. How does that affect our bottom line, our pocketbook issues? guest host Kellyanne Conway asked the secretary.
Lutnick replied:
So just think, the whole world out there in the third quarter, the United Kingdom grew .1. The European Union group, .4, and Japan fell .6%, fell .6%. Donald Trumps economy grew, the United States of America, the biggest economy in the world, 4.3%.
What that means is that Americans overall all of us are going to earn 4.3% more money. Were making a raise. Its a simple way to do it. Weve got more jobs, lower energy costs, and lower interest rates coming. This is the golden age coming. Four point three percent this quarter means Americans on average are making more money, more money in their pocketbooks. That makes for a great Christmas.
Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/media/tv/trumps-commerce-secretary-claims-all-americans-are-going-to-earn-4-3-more-money-because-the-economy-grew-by-4-3/
We are officially here -

sop
(17,287 posts)BumRushDaShow
(165,172 posts)underpants
(194,588 posts)ananda
(34,307 posts)where you just add two or three zeroes
to every number.
agree. Stupidity seems to abound in this administration.
travelingthrulife
(4,322 posts)paleotn
(21,404 posts)... no one with more than 2 brain cells believes the 4.3% GDP number. The "delayed" report was most likely cooked.
Funny thing is, the magat rubes will still believe this crock of shit, even though their pay next year will barely budge.
tblue37
(68,109 posts)johnnyfins
(3,388 posts)that he is a lying, dirty, sack of shit. Rat bastard.
littlemissmartypants
(31,440 posts)Characteristics of Psychopaths
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Wednesdays
(21,546 posts)It'll arrive in two weeks.
Turbineguy
(39,796 posts)Nutlick.
CousinIT
(12,160 posts)....the economy goes . . .

lonely bird
(2,710 posts)I can add that to my Soros check.
twodogsbarking
(17,481 posts)Wiz Imp
(8,748 posts)But Lutnick knows that what he is saying isn't true, but he thinks lying to the world is perfectly acceptable.
Explanation for why the GDP number is wildly misleading (You'll notice that none of the primary reasons for the increase in GDP as outlined below actually do anything to improve the economic conditions for most Americans. AI Spending and Defense spending is only helping people who work for these small number of companies. Imports decreasing because of tariffs doesn't help Americans because when they replace them with American made products, the cost is higher.):
2. Defense spending is helping to buoy the economy as well
3. Imports have continued to decrease while exports have increased slightly driving the number higher due to the way this is calculated
4. Inflation is persistent and the bottom half of the country (or more potentially) is still struggling while the affluent are driving consumer spending to a sufficient level to increase GDP.
This last point is one worth looking at a little further. The BEA reported that most of this spending came from healthcare purchases. So it seems likely the a good deal of the affluent spending is coming from older Americans who have benefited the most from the explosion of asset prices while the rest of the country struggles, especially if those Americans aren't having their parents helping them out.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Economics/comments/1ptwrl7/us_gdp_grew_at_a_blistering_43_pace_in_the_third/
Government spending is also up which is artificially increasing the GDP.
GDP = C + I + G + (X − M)
where C = consumption, I = investment, G = government spending X = exports and M = imports.
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,557 posts)ALL promised me by Donnie Dipshit!
The Cabinet who couldn't get their shit together!
progree
(12,713 posts)I thought the above was the nuttiest thing I read today, but Lunatic saying "all of us are going to earn 4.3% more money." beats that.
First the commentators on the GDP report have pretty much all pointed out the K-shaped economy -- the higher income people are doing well with the stock market gains and spending plentifully, while the rest of us are struggling with higher prices and rising unemployment.
That phenomenon (K-shaped economy) also is playing out among businesses. Economists said large corporations have mostly managed to withstand the blow from the import duties, which have increased costs, and are investing in artificial intelligence. (Investment outlays helps the GDP number whether or not they are prudent). But smaller businesses are struggling with tariffs.
It's also special factors like higher federal spending (including buyout offers to federal workers) and higher defense spending. Also elevated electric vehicle spending in advance of the ending of EV tax credits on Sept 30.
The GDP report also covers the period July 1 - September 30 - just *BEFORE* the government shutdown. So the report doesn't cover the shutdown (which began October 1) or all the bad news we heard in October or November or December so far -- that will hit the 4th quarter report coming out in late January.
Reuters: The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has estimated the shutdown could slice between 1.0 percentage point and 2.0 percentage points off GDP in the fourth quarter.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-economic-growth-accelerates-third-133710066.html
And the 4th quarter ends in a week. Then it will be challenging economically going forward with extended ACA supplements expiring in a week.
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There will be another estimate of Q3 GDP coming out January 22, so yesterday's report isn't the final word.
https://www.bea.gov/news/2025/gross-domestic-product-3rd-quarter-2025-initial-estimate-and-corporate-profits
BEA's schedule of news releases show no further 3rd quarter GDP reports other than the January 22 one.
https://www.bea.gov/news/schedule
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More on the Trump thing --
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fed-chair-lower-rates-market-183423701.html
No paywall on this Yahoo - hosted article
I want my new Fed Chairman to lower Interest Rates if the Market is doing well, not destroy the Market for no reason whatsoever, Trump said in a social media post Tuesday. Anybody that disagrees with me will never be the Fed Chairman!
In the old days, when there was good news, the Market went up, Trump wrote. Nowadays, when there is good news, the Market goes down, because everybody thinks that Interest Rates will be immediately lifted to take care of potential Inflation.
Nobody except you and maybe Besserk and Lunatick (the secretaries of the Treasury and Commerce departments respectively)
Fact check about the last sentence in the excerpt: There have been no rate increases in 2025, instead there have been 3 rate cuts, beginning with the one 9/17.
And there have been 4 rate cuts in the latter half of 2024, including one that was 0.50% instead of the usual 0.25%.
There have been no rate increases since July 2023, 2 1/2 years ago.
And the market has been hardly "destroyed" by "TOO LATE POWELL" - the S&P 500 hit a new all-time-high today.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/111699775
CanonRay
(15,913 posts)relayerbob
(7,353 posts)Much less the solid pile of horse manure coming out of DC wrt the economy
progree
(12,713 posts)rather, they say, it grew at a 4.3% annual rate. That's quite a difference
Lunatick: "the Economy Grew by 4.3%"
https://www.bea.gov/news/2025/gross-domestic-product-3rd-quarter-2025-initial-estimate-and-corporate-profits
Lulu KC
(8,454 posts)And love the GIF. What a great show and interesting collection of articles that they used in the titles.