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BumRushDaShow

(165,759 posts)
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:06 AM Dec 28

Putin says Russia will achieve its Ukraine aims by force if Kyiv doesn't want peace

Source: NBC News/Reuters

Dec. 28, 2025, 2:47 AM EST / Source: Reuters


MOSCOW — Russian President Vladimir Putin said Ukraine was in no hurry for peace and if it did not want to resolve their conflict peacefully, Moscow would accomplish all its goals by force.

Putin's remarks on Saturday, carried by state news agency TASS, followed a vast Russian drone and missile attack that prompted Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to say Russia was demonstrating its wish to continue the war while Kyiv wanted peace.

Zelenskyy is to meet U.S. President Donald Trump in Florida on Sunday to seek a resolution to the war Putin launched nearly four years ago with a full-scale invasion of Russia's smaller neighbour.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Putin's remarks.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/world/russia/putin-russia-ukraine-aims-force-kyiv-peace-rcna251193

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Putin says Russia will achieve its Ukraine aims by force if Kyiv doesn't want peace (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 28 OP
Holy shit! mikeysnot Dec 28 #1
He grew up in the USSR. Igel Dec 28 #3
EXACTLY what I thought... it's putin who does not want peace....fucker...nt mitch96 Dec 28 #14
Pootie wants TOTAL SURRENDER and CONTROL. ProudMNDemocrat Dec 28 #23
"Or he will burn it all down."... That seems to be the ruzzian/soviet model. If I can't conquer the hearts and minds.. mitch96 Dec 29 #25
Putin doesn't want peace. He wants Ukraine. Dulcinea Dec 29 #26
Oh, well, that will be a new direction. Hasn't this what he's been doing since Day 1? travelingthrulife Dec 28 #2
Umm... when hasn't he done this? ananda Dec 28 #4
Putin, Trump's idol, is a monster. He's lost 1.2 million soldiers so far, but doesn't care about them. surfered Dec 28 #5
Putin's military and brutality hasn't been able to achieve his goals yet so what lets him think that will ... Botany Dec 28 #6
In '62 we had a president with balls Submariner Dec 28 #7
Putin's bitch. WestMichRad Dec 28 #22
Fuck Putin duckworth969 Dec 28 #8
Sounds like Trump's logic of deserving a Nobel Peace Prize. Norrrm Dec 28 #9
Yeah, Putie. Whatever. paleotn Dec 28 #10
I feel like if they could achieve their goals by force, this 4-day-war would have been over 4 years ago. nt Gore1FL Dec 28 #11
Putin is reaching his last straw popsdenver Dec 28 #12
Putin should remember that Russia also has reactors. The Madcap Dec 28 #15
Putin Speaks With Trump Ahead of Zelensky Meeting in Florida to, receive, I guess, his marching orders. Brother Buzz Dec 28 #13
What they been doing all along Historic NY Dec 28 #16
Putin doesn't want "peace"--he wants "a piece" or several pieces...Russian lebensraum Maeve Dec 28 #17
Dear Vlad BidenRocks Dec 28 #18
But Kiev wants peace through expelling Russian forces from their territory and getting security guarantees. ChicagoTeamster Dec 28 #19
Putin will achieve his ends in Ukraine by force alone no matter what. Any peace "deal" is just a ploy. Martin68 Dec 28 #20
so far he is not having much success with his force nt msongs Dec 28 #21
How will he take Ukraine by force if he hasn't been able to do so in four years? Blumancru Dec 28 #24
Coming up on four years of this shit BeyondGeography Dec 29 #27
sure, they've only been dicking around up till now DoBW Dec 29 #28

Igel

(37,364 posts)
3. He grew up in the USSR.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:17 AM
Dec 28

So, of course. Reality is what you get the media and rhetorical environment to say it is--it's entirely socially, if not socialistically, constructed.

Sometimes I wonder if his goal isn't to "engineer" the "human soul" to make it ready for what he had when he grew up, and get that ol' Marxist-Leninist "course of history" back "on track" in Russia: First socialism, and then the withering away of the state to produce communism. After all, one bit complaint in late-stage socialism was that it had to fail because the preconditions, the transition from capitalism, hadn't actually occurred in socialist Russia. In 1918 much of Russia was properly quasi-feudal, where all the efforts to 'liberate' the serfs hadn't really changed much on the ground: they had the same culture, the same attitudes, and very often little improved economic conditions (except to the extent they'd become urban 'proletariat').

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,622 posts)
23. Pootie wants TOTAL SURRENDER and CONTROL.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:11 PM
Dec 28

Or he will burn it all down.

TACO will stand down as told.

mitch96

(15,655 posts)
25. "Or he will burn it all down."... That seems to be the ruzzian/soviet model. If I can't conquer the hearts and minds..
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 10:50 AM
Dec 29

They burn it all down and start from scratch with all ruzzian citizens who they can control...
my thoughts...

Dulcinea

(9,667 posts)
26. Putin doesn't want peace. He wants Ukraine.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 10:57 AM
Dec 29

And Belarus, and all the other former Soviet republics under his control.

surfered

(11,535 posts)
5. Putin, Trump's idol, is a monster. He's lost 1.2 million soldiers so far, but doesn't care about them.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:31 AM
Dec 28

Like Trump, none of his offspring serve in the military.

While Ukraine targets Russia’s logistics and its war funding oil infrastructure, Putin targets Ukrainian apartment buildings.

Putin won’t give up. It’s all about his legacy, recreating the Russian Empire. The war will continue until the oligarchs throw him out a window.

Botany

(76,398 posts)
6. Putin's military and brutality hasn't been able to achieve his goals yet so what lets him think that will ...
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:33 AM
Dec 28

…. happen now? He invaded Donbas with help of an American traitor, Michael Flynn,
in 2014 annexed Crimea and his 2022 full scale invasion of the nation of Ukraine hasn’t
been successful. The war in Ukraine will end with one bullet and that will be one Putin’s
brain or a drone blast or his home or car exploding.

Trump’s siding with Russia over Ukraine has been and still is shameful.

Submariner

(13,251 posts)
7. In '62 we had a president with balls
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:40 AM
Dec 28

who outplayed Nikita Khrushchev when the Soviets made these kind of threats.

This time around, our president is a loser and Putin's bitch.

WestMichRad

(2,930 posts)
22. Putin's bitch.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 07:56 PM
Dec 28

Sums it up exactly.

I trust Zelenskyy isn’t gonna fall for any “compromise” that restricts Ukraine’s ability to defend themselves… cuz we know Russia will try again later if there’s a ceasefire at some point.

Gore1FL

(22,840 posts)
11. I feel like if they could achieve their goals by force, this 4-day-war would have been over 4 years ago. nt
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:14 AM
Dec 28

popsdenver

(1,560 posts)
12. Putin is reaching his last straw
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 12:43 PM
Dec 28

Ukraine is literally kicking his ass, destroying his military soldiers, his military planes and vehicles, etc etc etc

Ukraine just took years building a new sarcophagus, at great expense to cover the Chernobyl reactor, which is still melting down. Putin decided to launch a drone into it, punching a big hole in the sarcophagus, causing it to leak radiation once again......
It will cost a ton of money to repair the hole and damage to the interior.........as well as exposing the workers to outrageous amounts of Radiation.
I can only imagine, the closer Putin gets to losing, he will enable drones/rockets to attack Ukraine's other Nuclear Power plants.
AND, begin the use of Tactical Smaller Nuclear Weapons focused on certain areas of Ukraine, making those areas un-inhabitable for a thousand years or more.......

The thing that keeps me up at night is the thought of the world's nuclear arsenals, enough to destroy life on planet Earth a thousand times over, in the hands of RAGING NARCISSISTIC, SADISTIC PSYCHOPATHS THROUGH OUT THE WORLD........
North Korea, China, Russia, Israel, United States, etc etc etc.
Any of which, could launch missiles as an "ILL SHOW YOU.....IF I GO, YOU ALL WILL GO"

The Madcap

(1,750 posts)
15. Putin should remember that Russia also has reactors.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 01:30 PM
Dec 28

A few well-placed missiles close to Moscow ought to take care of it.

Of course, he doesn't care about the Russian people, so it probably wouldn't matter to him. Ukraine should leave every inch of territory stolen by the Russians as an uninhabitable desert. Let them gain nothing of use.

Brother Buzz

(39,570 posts)
13. Putin Speaks With Trump Ahead of Zelensky Meeting in Florida to, receive, I guess, his marching orders.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 12:54 PM
Dec 28

President Trump said he spoke by phone with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia on Sunday, ahead of his meeting in the afternoon with President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine at Mar-a-Lago, where they will discuss a revised 20-point peace plan aimed at ending the war with Russia. Mr. Zelensky has acknowledged two major sticking points: the fate of the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine and control of a nuclear power plant occupied by Russia.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/12/28/us/trump-news-ukraine-zelensky

Maeve

(43,337 posts)
17. Putin doesn't want "peace"--he wants "a piece" or several pieces...Russian lebensraum
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 01:43 PM
Dec 28

For those who don't get the reference
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum

BidenRocks

(2,773 posts)
18. Dear Vlad
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:00 PM
Dec 28

Just a heads up that Ukraine is a nuclear nation again.
We bought a couple of nukes on Amazon.

Nice city, Moscow. It would be a shame ...

Now Get Out!

ChicagoTeamster

(441 posts)
19. But Kiev wants peace through expelling Russian forces from their territory and getting security guarantees.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:04 PM
Dec 28

Surrender no land!

Martin68

(27,061 posts)
20. Putin will achieve his ends in Ukraine by force alone no matter what. Any peace "deal" is just a ploy.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 03:38 PM
Dec 28

Blumancru

(210 posts)
24. How will he take Ukraine by force if he hasn't been able to do so in four years?
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:30 PM
Dec 28

I am a child of the 60s. I was brought up when we had air raid drills in school. We thought one day the Russians would bomb us.
Now it turns out we may have feared a paper tiger all along.
I think and hope that Ukraine drones him, or someone close to him does the job.
One wonders if Trump’s shenanigans in Venezuela are designed to disrupt oil production and distribution to make Russia’s oil worth more, to give Putin more money to wage his war.

BeyondGeography

(40,810 posts)
27. Coming up on four years of this shit
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 11:26 AM
Dec 29

What’s he waiting for, 35 million Ukrainians to realize they are actually Russian? What a big fat failure this has been for Putin and his fans.

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