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BaronChocula

(4,144 posts)
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 03:30 PM Jan 11

Live: Son of ousted shah says 'prepared to return to Iran' at first opportunity

Source: France 24

The US-based son of Iran's ousted shah Reza Pahlavi said Sunday he is prepared to return to the country and lead a transition to a democratic government. As new protests took place in Iran overnight from Saturday to Sunday, a new report from the NGO Iran Human Rights puts the death toll at least 192.

Read more: https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20260111-live-iran-death-toll-rises-as-protesters-defy-crackdown

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Live: Son of ousted shah says 'prepared to return to Iran' at first opportunity (Original Post) BaronChocula Jan 11 OP
Nope. Not going to happen. pfitz59 Jan 11 #1
Won't happen overnight. Igel Jan 11 #5
That sounds helpful. iemanja Jan 11 #2
Deja vu all over again. Sneederbunk Jan 11 #3
The shah was no bargain. Better than the Khomeini, but no bargain. Scrivener7 Jan 11 #4
Pahlavi seems to be the most likely leader to step in rollin74 Jan 11 #6
What's the source for his having significant support? SamuelTheThird Jan 11 #11
I have serious doubts newdeal2 Jan 11 #13
Listen to what all the Iranians that support the protests are saying JI7 Jan 12 #33
Ok well it's probably presumptuous for me to weigh in SamuelTheThird Jan 12 #38
It's been 48 years Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 11 #7
Eppur si muove GJGCA Jan 11 #16
Malignant narcissism and thinking the divine right of kings applies to them.... Thomas Hurt Jan 12 #30
Dieu et mon droigt maxsolomon Jan 12 #37
The Plan Is Deep State Witch Jan 11 #8
"freedom of religion, women's rights, and no more SAVAK and secret detention facilities" rampartd Jan 12 #26
Well, That's What They Had Deep State Witch Jan 12 #34
and it ain't gonna change just by installing pahlavi rampartd Jan 12 #35
So the son of the American puppet who was moniss Jan 11 #9
Frankly, I think it is a terrible idea to replace the Islamic state with a kingdom. That certainly isn't the Martin68 Jan 11 #10
We used to have a democratic state, but now a kingdom. Sneederbunk Jan 11 #15
We can thank the CIA for that. Martin68 Jan 12 #29
What's the other option ? And most say the Shah will be in a transitional role JI7 Jan 12 #32
Fuck that. Buzz cook Jan 11 #12
I have noticed many of the protestors waving the old regimes flag: EX500rider Jan 11 #14
Please don't. Xolodno Jan 11 #17
JFC. .anybody remember what happened when the cia had the DEMOCRATICALLY- niyad Jan 11 #18
I do... and it's been as screwed up for the people and the world, in general, slightlv Jan 11 #19
Sadly, you are absolutely correct. niyad Jan 11 #20
Delusional arse-wipe. NotHardly Jan 11 #21
Fire and Gas! BidenRocks Jan 12 #22
Deposed Shah's Son Hopes Trump Will Put Iran Regime 'Down for Good' cliffside Jan 12 #23
I was wondering when that would come up. Old Crank Jan 12 #24
From what I've witnessed on the websites of various Iranian pro-democracy groups, they hate the Pahlavi family.. Crowman2009 Jan 12 #25
Good to hear! Polybius Jan 12 #27
Smells like Trump JCMach1 Jan 12 #28
The people of Iran want him . It's up to them . They know what the old Shah was and what the Ayatollahs are and prefer JI7 Jan 12 #31
CIA going to install you like they did your POS dictator father? Bengus81 Jan 12 #36

pfitz59

(12,465 posts)
1. Nope. Not going to happen.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 03:32 PM
Jan 11

No more Shahs. No more SAVAK. No more Ayatollahs. Let the people vote.

Igel

(37,423 posts)
5. Won't happen overnight.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 03:44 PM
Jan 11

Same problem as in Venezuela. And Russia. And Belorus'. And PRC.

When you imprison, exile, or kill all the opposition, kicking out the top tier and saying, "Elections in 21 days, candidacy petitions due in 7!" is lunacy. Moreover, just because the top tier is gone doesn't mean that loyal foot soldiers and mid-tier folkx wouldn't love to restore the old order in which they believed or which gave them their jobs, and do that by creating such chaos that people want order, any order, more than liberty. Look at Russia under Yeltsin. It's a commonplace to say that Putin restored things, but all the trendlines were good--unemployment, inflation, corruption, violence--for a couple of years prior to the 20000 election. Problem is, the improvement was less felt than the on-going disruption. (We see the same effect when looking at urban violence--violent crime may go way down, but the news doesn't pro-rate even large decreases when there's still more than enough violence to fill the newscast. Or unemployment. Or inflation.)

"Give me liberty or give me death" is the slogan of the brave few. The vast majority are usually of the "Give me freedom, but never at the expense of my life, the life of somebody I know, my income, my property, my pets ... maybe my favorite tv show!" persuasion.

And even if there is a democratic transition--whatever the hell that means--it's easy (so the allusions) goes to boil a frog. Even the dystopia that Venezuela was reaching in end-stage-Chavez and which blossomed like a corpse flower under Maduro was slow and incremental and at each stage some protested and were shut up until finally the blanket of oppression was so thorough that 7-8 million leaving was okay because to stay would lead to a lot of death and unpleasantness.

rollin74

(2,280 posts)
6. Pahlavi seems to be the most likely leader to step in
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 03:50 PM
Jan 11

when the current regime is finally forced from power

He seems to have significant support amongst the protesters and would be preferable to the brutal theocracy they have suffered under for decades.

Ultimately it will be up to the Iranian people to determine their future. Hopefully they will have the opportunity to do so in the near future



SamuelTheThird

(729 posts)
11. What's the source for his having significant support?
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:26 PM
Jan 11

Not saying it's untrue, just wondering how this is quantified

newdeal2

(4,993 posts)
13. I have serious doubts
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 06:14 PM
Jan 11

He is the choice of some Iranians living here, probably Donald, and Israel.

In fact, he may be a terrible choice - I have a bad feeling of lots of corruption and brute force.

JI7

(93,334 posts)
33. Listen to what all the Iranians that support the protests are saying
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 11:53 AM
Jan 12

Look at their social media and how they post about the Pahlavis . Almost all of them support bringing him back but many do support elections after.

SamuelTheThird

(729 posts)
38. Ok well it's probably presumptuous for me to weigh in
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 03:58 PM
Jan 12

But it was a police state before it became a theocratic police state

Deep State Witch

(12,641 posts)
8. The Plan Is
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:06 PM
Jan 11

Supposedly, for Reza Shah to step in as an interim leader until elections are held. He was educated in the US, and has lived here ever since the overthrow. One would think that he had a plan in place for his eventual return.

They can make him Shah again, as long as he guarantees freedom of religion, women's rights, and no more SAVAK and secret detention facilities.

rampartd

(4,110 posts)
26. "freedom of religion, women's rights, and no more SAVAK and secret detention facilities"
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 02:26 AM
Jan 12

i can imagine trump demanding megachurch christianity, with women on lock down and brutal privatized prisons

moniss

(8,827 posts)
9. So the son of the American puppet who was
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:09 PM
Jan 11

a brutally repressive dictator wants the US and Israel to move him in to power. Remember the phrase "we will be greeted as liberators"?
Remember how that went?

Martin68

(27,266 posts)
10. Frankly, I think it is a terrible idea to replace the Islamic state with a kingdom. That certainly isn't the
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:20 PM
Jan 11

only option.

JI7

(93,334 posts)
32. What's the other option ? And most say the Shah will be in a transitional role
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 11:49 AM
Jan 12

with elections to come after. They need something before they hold elections.

Buzz cook

(2,836 posts)
12. Fuck that.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 05:52 PM
Jan 11

How anout returning the millions in stolen money you've been living on. And then shutting the fuck up.

niyad

(130,285 posts)
18. JFC. .anybody remember what happened when the cia had the DEMOCRATICALLY-
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 09:58 PM
Jan 11

elected leader of Iran, Mossadegh, removed, and installed reza's brutal dad?

slightlv

(7,529 posts)
19. I do... and it's been as screwed up for the people and the world, in general,
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 10:34 PM
Jan 11

ever since. NOTHING good happens with "regime change" unless it comes from the people, themselves. I say this, thinking of how we regime change trump without free and fair elections here. We are the Iranian people, and we women will identify more than most with our sisters there.

cliffside

(1,617 posts)
23. Deposed Shah's Son Hopes Trump Will Put Iran Regime 'Down for Good'
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 12:18 AM
Jan 12

Gift link

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/11/world/europe/iran-protests-shah-son-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.D1A.CDD_.JWHZxpnD0GQL&smid=url-share

"... Addressing Mr. Trump directly, Mr. Pahlavi said: “They know that you’re not going to throw them under the bus, as has happened before. This is why they are empowered — by the hope that you have their back.”

... Asked directly during the interview by Maria Bartiromo whether he wanted U.S. forces to “take out Khamenei,” Mr. Pahlavi said “the people of Iran have responded and reacted positively to a promise of intervention.”

... A plunge in the value of Iran’s currency on Dec. 28 incited the current protests, which quickly grew into broader calls for the ouster of Mr. Khamenei. Many protesters have also begun voicing support for the Pahlavis, with chants of “long live the shah.”

On Thursday, Mr. Pahlavi and members of several activist groups issued calls for mass protests, helping accelerate the movement. Huge crowds have taken to the streets of large metropolises and marginalized rural provinces alike..."



Crowman2009

(3,438 posts)
25. From what I've witnessed on the websites of various Iranian pro-democracy groups, they hate the Pahlavi family..
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 02:11 AM
Jan 12

...and don't want them to return! I would say they hate them just as much as the Ayatollahs, if not more.

Polybius

(21,605 posts)
27. Good to hear!
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 05:24 AM
Jan 12

It will be a great improvement (especially for women) over the regime that's currently in charge.

JI7

(93,334 posts)
31. The people of Iran want him . It's up to them . They know what the old Shah was and what the Ayatollahs are and prefer
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 11:48 AM
Jan 12

the Shah. They can get rid of him also if they are not happy with him .



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