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highplainsdem

(63,693 posts)
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 05:32 PM Mar 2026

Trump hits out at Starmer over Iran: 'This is not Winston Churchill we're dealing with'

Last edited Tue Mar 3, 2026, 09:23 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: Independent

Speaking at the White House, the US president unleashed another rant about the UK, claiming Sir Keir had been "very uncooperative" and had "ruined relationships" over Iran and the Chagos Islands.

-snip-

Appearing to refer to the Diego Garcia base in the Chagos Islands, Mr Trump added: "That island... It's taken three, four days, for us to work out where we can land there; it would have been much more convenient landing there as opposed to flying many extra hours, so we are very surprised."

"This is not Winston Churchill that we're dealing with," he added.

Mr Trump went on to express his disapproval at Britain's deal to hand the Chagos Islands to Mauritius, saying the UK has "ruined relationships" over the "stupid island".

-snip-

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/donald-trump-keir-starmer-iran-winston-churchill-b2931235.html



Trump also called London mayor Sadiq Khan incompetent and claimed incorrectly that the UK has Sharia courts adjudicating law.
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Trump hits out at Starmer over Iran: 'This is not Winston Churchill we're dealing with' (Original Post) highplainsdem Mar 2026 OP
Well Trump is no FDR. What's the point? Raven123 Mar 2026 #1
I guess Trump thinks he's FDR today. hadEnuf Mar 2026 #10
Probably Stalin dflprincess Mar 2026 #31
I'm amazed he knows he's not dealing with Churchill. ananda Mar 2026 #20
Beat me to it. wnylib Mar 2026 #22
He is Howdy Doodey, Putin's puppet! MacKasey Mar 2026 #33
You beat me to it. SheltieLover Mar 2026 #35
I'm shocked SallyHemmings Mar 2026 #2
He's a rapist. They should be grateful to him. travelingthrulife Mar 2026 #46
My god! PatSeg Mar 2026 #3
Not to mention British people don't hold Churchill in high regard. nt Nashchica Mar 2026 #11
Good point PatSeg Mar 2026 #15
Is that true? iemanja Mar 2026 #19
It's true. Brits liked Churchill's inspiring rhetoric wnylib Mar 2026 #25
Thanks... wonder who supplied PEDO Cha Mar 2026 #30
Rasputin Miller. Another goon who understands no history. travelingthrulife Mar 2026 #47
But they put the Conservatives back in power in 1951 dflprincess Mar 2026 #32
The 1950s were a swing to the right in the US, too. wnylib Mar 2026 #34
I was referring to how he is iemanja Mar 2026 #36
info on sharia courts in britain.... msongs Mar 2026 #4
Well Felon, you are no Barack Obama, Joe Biden livetohike Mar 2026 #5
Yes! That's mostly what I said Cha Mar 2026 #26
Hi Cha! Great minds think alike.😆 Hope all is livetohike Mar 2026 #45
He's no Winston Churchill. That's pretty self evident. patphil Mar 2026 #6
Sounds like... 2naSalit Mar 2026 #7
Whcih is ... Cha Mar 2026 #24
All these plans should have been arranged before the attack. No plans and no one knows what they're doing except Deuxcents Mar 2026 #28
If he was Winston Churchill, he would say the following about Krasnov Wonder Why Mar 2026 #8
And what would Churchill think..... Smilo Mar 2026 #9
It's clear that Trump is now several cans short of a 12 pack. hadEnuf Mar 2026 #12
You've used the live news link, and the "no Churchill" story is about 4 pages down it now muriel_volestrangler Mar 2026 #13
Drat, they completely rewrote the story, too. What a mess. And no way to get everything I had before highplainsdem Mar 2026 #17
Still winning friends, and influencing enemies Bayard Mar 2026 #14
He's bound and determined to make the entire world hate us mdbl Mar 2026 #16
And the child rapist is no FDR. iemanja Mar 2026 #18
Chuchill wouldn't kiss your ass like Starmer. Intractable Mar 2026 #21
PEDO Fuck head is NO Joe Biden Or Barack Cha Mar 2026 #23
Gallipoli anyone? Johonny Mar 2026 #27
And drumpf is no FDR. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2026 #29
Not even in the same universe with FDR! SheltieLover Mar 2026 #37
There is one thing I wish he had in common with FDR. niyad Mar 2026 #38
Decency SheltieLover Mar 2026 #39
Not possible. I wish they were both "the late" niyad Mar 2026 #40
Slob doesn't have a shred of decency. SheltieLover Mar 2026 #41
Oh. Lol SheltieLover Mar 2026 #42
Well, Trump, you shouldn't have started a war that resulted in our Naval base in Bahrain being taken out, thus artemisia1 Mar 2026 #43
and trump is no Eisenhower, by a long shot. Captain Zero Mar 2026 #44
Yet, Trump is lower than Nixon. Kid Berwyn Mar 2026 #48

ananda

(35,800 posts)
20. I'm amazed he knows he's not dealing with Churchill.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 09:37 PM
Mar 2026

Starmer and his cohorts are doing just fine
by standing strong against Trump.

PatSeg

(54,008 posts)
3. My god!
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 05:39 PM
Mar 2026

At this rate, he's going to run out of people to insult and offend. After all there are only 8 billion people on the planet.

“This is not Winston Churchill that we’re talking about”. Like he even knows anything about Winston Churchill.


wnylib

(26,801 posts)
25. It's true. Brits liked Churchill's inspiring rhetoric
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:39 PM
Mar 2026

during the war, but got rid of him as soon as the war was over. He was too conservative for them. He had also flubbed up several times in military positions that he held before the war. His main interest in WWII was preserving the empire. His domestic policies did not appeal to Brits.

Cha

(321,523 posts)
30. Thanks... wonder who supplied PEDO
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:47 PM
Mar 2026

with that line? He doesn't know shit about history?

Too busy with Epstein business.

dflprincess

(29,457 posts)
32. But they put the Conservatives back in power in 1951
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:57 PM
Mar 2026

and Churchill was prime minister again from1951-55.

wnylib

(26,801 posts)
34. The 1950s were a swing to the right in the US, too.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 12:05 AM
Mar 2026

Fascism had bern defeated and we focused on Communism as the Soviet Bloc became entrenched.

Today's Brits do not like Churchill.

iemanja

(57,808 posts)
36. I was referring to how he is
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 12:18 AM
Mar 2026

Remembered historically, not when he was voted out of office.

patphil

(9,332 posts)
6. He's no Winston Churchill. That's pretty self evident.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 05:50 PM
Mar 2026

Starmer doesn't smoke cigars, or at all for that matter, while Churchill seemed to always have one in his hand.
That makes telling them apart really easy. I wonder how long it took Trump to figure that out.

This may be the first thing Trump said in the past few months that's actually true.

Deuxcents

(28,195 posts)
28. All these plans should have been arranged before the attack. No plans and no one knows what they're doing except
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:45 PM
Mar 2026

Screwing up royally. They’re shooting from the hip and have started a serious war and alienating our allies is idiotic. Spain says no and are not wanting retaliation from Iran nor does the UK. We’re in trouble deep

Wonder Why

(7,370 posts)
8. If he was Winston Churchill, he would say the following about Krasnov
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 06:49 PM
Mar 2026
We have before us an ordeal of the most grievous kind. We have before us many, many long months of struggle and of suffering. You ask, what is our policy? I will say: It is to wage war, by sea, land, and air, with all our might and with all the strength that God can give us; to wage war against a monstrous tyranny never surpassed in the dark, lamentable catalogue of human crime. That is our policy. You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word: It is victory, victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory, however long and hard the road may be.


So, unless you want another war, Krazy Krasnov, button your lip ad put your cellphone where the sun doesn't shine!

Smilo

(2,073 posts)
9. And what would Churchill think.....
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 06:55 PM
Mar 2026

Hitler trump is a monster of wickedness, insatiable in his lust for blood and plunder.”.
June 22, 1941, Churchill on Hitler’s attack invasion of Russia.

hadEnuf

(3,686 posts)
12. It's clear that Trump is now several cans short of a 12 pack.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 07:01 PM
Mar 2026

25th A time. Not that his asslickers in congress care.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,830 posts)
13. You've used the live news link, and the "no Churchill" story is about 4 pages down it now
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 07:03 PM
Mar 2026

Here's the link to what you've quoted:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/donald-trump-keir-starmer-iran-winston-churchill-b2931235.html

Title "Trump hits out at Starmer over Iran: ‘This is not Winston Churchill we’re dealing with’"

It would be better to correct this in the OP, since this is LBN.

highplainsdem

(63,693 posts)
17. Drat, they completely rewrote the story, too. What a mess. And no way to get everything I had before
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 09:09 PM
Mar 2026

in just 4 paragraphs of the new version. Sigh. Thanks for the heads-up, though. I'll try to patch a new excerpt plus comments together so the earlier replies here won't lose context.

Bayard

(30,645 posts)
14. Still winning friends, and influencing enemies
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 07:20 PM
Mar 2026

No other country wants a part in enabling him in an illegal war, resulting in a quagmire. They don't need to lose their soldiers to trump and Bibi's egos.

artemisia1

(1,925 posts)
43. Well, Trump, you shouldn't have started a war that resulted in our Naval base in Bahrain being taken out, thus
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 01:53 AM
Mar 2026

requiring our ships to make an extra 3-4 day trip to Diego Garcia to restock.

Captain Zero

(8,972 posts)
44. and trump is no Eisenhower, by a long shot.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 02:43 AM
Mar 2026

or, Maybe Trump should wade ashore from a destroyer in Iran, like McArthur did in the Philippines.

Kid Berwyn

(25,475 posts)
48. Yet, Trump is lower than Nixon.
Wed Mar 4, 2026, 10:51 AM
Mar 2026

Arguably approaching, if not descending past, Poppy Doc and Baby Doc Bush levels.

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