that want to simplify this into one thing or the other...

Ironically, the strident ads against DeGette were all accusations of big money interests (yes, there MAY have been not-too-subtle messages being sent there), yet, I have a feeling there will have been a LOT of big money backing Kiros as well. I honestly heard good messaging on a lot of issues from the newcomer, Kiros, but if I am to be honest, she made me apprehensive as well. Smart and youthful, definitely. Biting? Yes, but she was challenging a long-time incumbent. But, if AOC didn't support her, I have a feeling something my subconscious is picking up on may have been shared... Hopefully, we are both wrong and she will be not only what her Denver District needs, but Congress in general. We shall see. Having volunteered for DeGette several times in the past, I am a bit sad...

Link to tweet

May 22, 2025 Denver Civic Center Park. Were YOU there?!!!

I don't want to start any friction, but AOC wasn't there in May (which is already a long time before the primary).

The Oligarchy rally was held at the Civic Center on Friday, March 21, 2025.

Go be abusive to someone else

https://coloradotimesrecorder.com/2025/03/sanders-and-aoc-draw-largest-crowd-for-a-political-rally-in-colorado-since-2008/68372/

I didn't want to create friction by suggesting you were lying, but the date puts the event even further away from the primary. If it were an endorsement, surely it would have been made much closer to the date. It's usually 6 months to maybe 9 months out, not 16 months out.

AOC did provide verbal support for DeGette, yet you claim she endorsed Kiris. PROVE IT. OR perhaps your claims of lies need to be pointed back at YOURSELVES!

I merely did a quick Google search to see who was right, not really knowing the answer. The results came up negative, and I pointed out that it didn't make sense that AOC would endorse so far out. I never suggested anything about AOC endorsing Kiros.

Take it down a few notches. I'm not out to get you. I was just curious about any split between Bernie and AOC.

than assuming a "May" versus "March" typo. Do you remember every precise date in your life? Do you never commit a typo on DU? Do you just find one small error and decide that you are right to accuse a fellow DUer of ANYTHING more than a simple typo? What goes around comes around, DrFunkenstein. Your fellow Duers may not give YOU benefi-of-the-doubt next time either and you can see how THAT feels. And NO, I will not "take it down a notch" when you accuse me of lying because of a simple typo. So, no. There is no "gotcha."

I don't know you from Adam. I pointed out the discrepancy and suggested that the discrepancy made it even less likely that AOC made an endorsement, not as some sort of character attack on you. Life is too short to waste my time attacking anonymous people online.

However, I am very interested if there is any significant split between two leaders of the progressive movement, which is why I made the comment. It would have been noteworthy if they had competing endorsements, but clearly they did not here despite what seems to be a misunderstanding made in good faith.

Geez, over react much?

Is that you, Mrs. Kravitz?

Imagine witnessing all that witchcraft and sorcery only to be called crazy and get no support from your husband.

DU is not your personal business. It is a community message board where people are allowed to comment and even encouraged to do so.

That you demand to do so, won't even earn you a funny retort. But, again, I'm sure if this is your pattern, it is likewise not roundly appreciated by others in your circle. Perhaps, "butt out," is not new for you to hear if you do this repeatedly in discussions you were not party to.

So, no. I wont butt out. You should calm down.

unimpressed.

You are telling multiple people to butt out when we are just saying you should calm down.

nor party. Still, demanding others "chill out" may make you feel good. If so, feel free to post it another 100 or 1000 or more times if you wish. While I'm sure most will ignore you, myself included, if posting into the void makes you feel important, please, proceed as you wish.

Enjoy yourself or chill out or butt out. Whatever makes you happy! Life is short.

I'm chill.

Hope you’re having a great week, Eko!

Peace Mate!

Chill out!

This was from two weeks ago.

Chill out!

Overreact much? lol

Your date in May 2025 (which, per post 16, is not even the correct date for the AOC tour speech, it was even earlier, in March of 2025) was before Melat Kiros even entered the race in July 2025.

https://www.coloradopolitics.com/2025/07/09/denver-democrat-diana-degette-draws-primary-challenge-call-for-new-generation-from-melat-kiros-fa6c7d97-e15d-4a61-823b-f483222ccbea/

As I already have shown. AOC is not listed on DeGette's own website list of endorsers.

AOC did not endorse DeGette in this race.

Creds, awed over her and how much they worked together and how she had HER (AOC) support.

After Bernie so overtly chose to support Kiros, that is all the press reported.

Spring, 2025.

YOU SURE THE HELL WERE NOT. Hell you aren't even in the US, much less Colorado, much less Denver and you sure don't know anything about Colorado politics, assuming as you do that DeGette was a centrist or Right-leaning Democrat. She was anything of the kind. This is fucking Denver. No Dem gets elected here that isn't progressive and THAT is why AOC was so supportive of her.

The site is "Progressive Punch" - https://progressivepunch.org/

And you can sort the table of members by Chamber and see a "progressive score" assigned to their voting records that align with progressive ideals (selectable for "overall" vs "crucial" or for "lifetime/career" vs the current Congressional session).

For lifetime/overall, DeGette scores 86/212 with a grade of "A" for her district - https://progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?topic=&house=house&sort=overall-lifetime&order=down&party=D

For Current/overall, DeGette is tied with Joaquin Castro for 18th place out of 212, and with a grade of "A" - https://progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?topic=&house=house&sort=overall-current&order=down&party=D

(and she comes in 2 slots ABOVE AOC (who is tied for 20th place in the numerical score) for the current session)

Am thinking it's all an age/anti-boomer thing (she is on the younger side of boomers though vs the lead group who are turning 80 this year)

to the extent I know what I need to know about them--which can be hard for a newcomer who emerges only during a primary. But, she is energetic, a competent attorney and well educated. She espouses many of the positions that I was looking for--not unlike DeGette. The difference is that DeGette was experienced in trying to get things done in a difficult Congressional setting. Might Kiros be more effective given she is new to the challenges of the setting? Perhaps. If Dems take the House, she certainly would be working in a very different environment from our current Congressional Dem Reps.

But, I think the dishonest and disingenuous--or at least ill-informed-- attacks on DeGette's progressive record are not worthy of DUers. And that she is older does not mean she is "out-of-touch." She certainly is NOT a rightward-leaning or centrist Democrat. That so many of these comments are coming from those who know nothing about Denver politics--and even just the minimum about Colorado politics yet feel free to scold or "educate" the voters here is just abysmal.

The RW will create strawmen and lie about our representatives and other Dem politicians. Can we kindly NOT do it for them?

Regardless, I congratulate soon-to-be Representative Kiros and wish her the best of luck representing the people of her District in Denver. Likewise I hope Diana DeGette will find ways to continue working for the people of Denver, Colorado, and the Nation--in a very difficult time.

Mirror, mirror, on the wall. Kindly take a long look. You sure like to throw those accusations of lying around, don't you? First accusations toward DeGette, and now me, a fellow DUer. Anyone else?

I fucking heard AOC provide support for DeGette--even if it was not during the primary. Until you show a written endorsement for Kiris by AOC, then you have NO reason to believe her support for DeGette ended at the primary--even if Bernie did endorse her. AOC and Bernie work well together, but that does NOT mean an endorsement by one is an endorsement by both.

And you, too may be the object of unfair accusations by other DUers for no reason.

Cheers,

Cel

I'm shocked! I'm sure both will be quite happy to work with the winner.

or they'll get shown the door.

It's centered entirely on the city of Denver. Because of the overwhelming progressive and left-leaning voter base in this urban area, winning the Democratic primary is pretty much the same as winning the seat itself.

The country needs more intelligent, progressive, energetic and driven Democrats. I wish her only well.

The country is hungry for change. Let's capitalize on that and not piss on the success of the DSA.

muslims are the most capitalist people on earth.

And I'm always late for the tea. Carry on

We know who it was. I mean like saying something like hey Blank blank that post could be removed, so we knew who it was?

who got banned and then came back for another ban.

saw the post was still up and replied.

i wonder if he was alerted twice?

which is not much of a thing as far as i know.

That's something a tRUMPer would spout.

It's time for a shake-up; time and past time.

The pragmatism of liberty and justice for all might actually get put into practice by our new political participants.

I still follow him from time to time on YouTube because I feel like he is a pure political junkie without a massive lean in any direction, so he's a decent barometer.

It was unexpected to hear him say this week that the dem socialists are basically selling what people want to buy right now with their economic populism and focus on actual policies centered on affordability.

and got rid of a lot of incumbents. the dems are going thru the same thing. people are tired of a political ruling class of entrenched incumbents that have fiddled while rome has burned. they want new people.

I remember shortly after this whole tea party debacle started, a bunch of progressives on Facebook started a group named The Coffee Party. You could say that they had better flayvah.

I don’t know much about the recent DSA primary races or winners. But my guess is they’re addressing real issues.

I personally do not want any candidate running in a Democratic primary with outlandish social media posts they feel they need to delete, however. Either own what you said or don’t say it.

average people who work for a living (whether white, blue collar - whatever) are not liking the crazy increasing prices of gas, groceries, housing, etc. Many were very clear when they voted for Trump that they are looking for lower prices and fewer foreign wars.

This is where you see that there really are moderates in this country and they are paying attention. And I'm good with dem or dem soc - let's pick the candidate with the best chance of winning and support them. I pray this keeps up through November.

There, fixed it.

It's wonderful to see all this energy among young people.
Check out this video of Hasan on the ground yesterday with door-knock volunteers for Melat Kiros at La Raza Park on the west side which is extremely immigrant from south of the border. (I just hope he was able to enjoy some of our famous Hatch Green Chili!). This is one of the reasons of several why she won - DSA is very organized. She literally used AOC's playbook to saturate the Denver metro area with 100s and 100s of volunteers and backed by the largest leftist podcaster on the planet who young people love and listen to.

What do you notice about those volunteers? They're all pretty much Millennia-Gen Z voters. I'd wager the age to be 18-36. It's downright beautiful to see!

Melat Kiros is 29 years old.
Rep. Diana DeGette has been in office for 29 years.

Melat framed that greatly in her campaign ads. It definitely played a part in things too. DeGette has been in office longer than Kiros has been alive, even if by some months longer.

I'm so happy I voted for her ❤

I'm all about electing younger people but the bottom line is that we can't give up any seats in November.

This trend of primarying safe seats could backfire. If it works, great! If we lose a seat - very very bad.

We must retake the House.