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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(113,807 posts)
Fri May 3, 2024, 03:54 PM May 2024

Nicholas Kristof: How protesters can better help Palestinians

By Nicholas Kristof / The New York Times

Student protesters: I admire your empathy for Gazans, your concern for the world, your moral ambition to make a difference.

But I worry about how peaceful protests have tipped into occupations of buildings, risks to commencements and what I see as undue tolerance of anti-semitism, chaos, vandalism and extremism. I’m afraid the more aggressive actions may be hurting the Gazans you are trying to help.

I’m shaped in my thinking by the Vietnam War protests of the 1960s. Students who protested then were right on the merits: The war was unwinnable and conducted in ways that were reckless and immoral.

Yet those students didn’t shorten that terrible war; instead, they probably prolonged it. Leftist activists in 1968 didn’t achieve their goal of electing the peace candidate Gene McCarthy; rather, the turmoil and more violent protests helped elect Richard Nixon, who pledged to restore order; and then dragged the war out and expanded it in Cambodia.

https://www.heraldnet.com/opinion/nicholas-kristof-how-protesters-can-better-help-palestinians/

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Nicholas Kristof: How protesters can better help Palestinians (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2024 OP
But the protesters aren't there to help the Palestinians. Valdosta May 2024 #1
I don't profess to know the motivations of all the protesters Redleg May 2024 #2
Is that why they trashed a library in Portland? n/t Valdosta May 2024 #3
Assholes who would trash a library nocoincidences May 2024 #4
All of them trashed it? Redleg May 2024 #5
This Is What I've Been Saying Deep State Witch May 2024 #6

Redleg

(6,031 posts)
2. I don't profess to know the motivations of all the protesters
Fri May 3, 2024, 04:02 PM
May 2024

I assume that some do care about the Palestinian people. What percentage of them care? I don't know that either but I do know better than to paint them all with the same brush.

nocoincidences

(2,308 posts)
4. Assholes who would trash a library
Fri May 3, 2024, 04:26 PM
May 2024

are especially repulsive to me.

In my mind they are moving in the direction of pet dog killers.

Redleg

(6,031 posts)
5. All of them trashed it?
Fri May 3, 2024, 04:30 PM
May 2024

I am not making excuses for them, I just think that we ought to be careful in assuming their motivations. Plus, people sometimes do stupid things in groups when there is high cohesiveness, persuasive communication, and emotional contagion.

When I was in college and in army ROTC, a few students on campus called us babykillers to our faces. Now this was a good 12 years after the U.S. left Vietnam. I remember telling one of the students that I hadn't even been deployed to a combat area yet. The point is that I realized that these few students don't speak for the entire student body.

Deep State Witch

(11,102 posts)
6. This Is What I've Been Saying
Sat May 4, 2024, 12:26 AM
May 2024

Especially the first one.

First, raise funds for organizations actively helping Gazans, like Save the Children, Gisha or International Rescue Committee. That may seem discouragingly modest but it will help real people in desperate need. (I tend to favor World Central Kitchen.)

Second, this may sound zany, but how about raising money to send as many of your student leaders as possible this summer to live in the West Bank and learn from Palestinians there (while engaging with Israelis on the way in or out)? West Bank monitors say that a recent Israeli crackdown on foreigners helping Palestinians, by denying entry or deporting people, has made this more difficult but not impossible.

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