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Dulcinea

(7,465 posts) Mon Jul 1, 2024, 06:08 AM Jul 2024

Biden's family encourages him to stay in the race as they discuss whether top advisers should be fired

(CNN) Joe Biden’s family on Sunday encouraged the president to stay in the 2024 race and privately discussed whether top aides should be fired on the heels of Biden’s stunningly poor debate performance, which has thrown his campaign into turmoil.

Biden’s family, including first lady Jill Biden, son Hunter Biden and their grandchildren, convened at Camp David for a previously scheduled get-together and implored the president to keep fighting in his bid for reelection, Biden advisers told CNN. One adviser described the family members as having offered their “unequivocal support.”

The family – clearly frustrated with the team that prepared President Biden ahead of his alarming debate with former President Donald Trump – discussed whether any of Biden’s top advisers should be fired and whether campaign staffing changes should be made, one adviser said.

Biden, however, is known for being loyal to and protective of his close advisers, and does not like to fire aides. As of Sunday, it did not appear that any major staffing changes were looming.

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Biden's family encourages him to stay in the race as they discuss whether top advisers should be fired (Original Post) Dulcinea Jul 2024 OP

Well if Hunter says so, I am all in. bottomofthehill Jul 2024 #1

Is this actual true, and why would they make this public? I mean who was the advisor that thought it was a "good idea" JohnSJ Jul 2024 #2

I think the advisors should at least get jimfields33 Jul 2024 #9

Whoever is advising him on his messaging about Israel's war on Gaza also needs to go. Lonestarblue Jul 2024 #3

You aren't disagreeing with messaging. That's policy FBaggins Jul 2024 #4

I am postng a link that includes comments rzemanfl Jul 2024 #5

Finally a thread about the real culprits from the poor debate, gab13by13 Jul 2024 #6

That your family is needed to fire your advisors is disgusting. gordianot Jul 2024 #7

I want to hear from Jill. MOMFUDSKI Jul 2024 #8

Biden's family encourages him to stay in the race as they discuss whether top advisers should be fired wkt_1 Jul 2024 #10

Firing top advisers would be a mistake IMO Fiendish Thingy Jul 2024 #11

bottomofthehill

(8,811 posts)

1. Well if Hunter says so, I am all in.

Reply to Dulcinea (Original post)

Mon Jul 1, 2024, 06:11 AM

Jul 2024

JohnSJ

(96,522 posts)

2. Is this actual true, and why would they make this public? I mean who was the advisor that thought it was a "good idea"

Reply to Dulcinea (Original post)

Mon Jul 1, 2024, 06:14 AM

Jul 2024

to talk to CNN about this.

jimfields33

(18,837 posts)

9. I think the advisors should at least get

Reply to JohnSJ (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 1, 2024, 07:52 AM

Jul 2024

to give an explanation on how they messed up. I never think it’s a good idea to just fire people.

Lonestarblue

(11,814 posts)

3. Whoever is advising him on his messaging about Israel's war on Gaza also needs to go.

Reply to Dulcinea (Original post)

Mon Jul 1, 2024, 06:19 AM

Jul 2024

So far, the message has been that the US will send enough military aid to Israel to blow Gaza off the map, even knowing that even the IDF leaders gave said that Hamas fighters cannot be eliminated with huge bombs that destroy civilians and infrastructure. It has been apparent for some time that Netanyahu is giving Biden the middle finger, but the aid just keeps flowing.

I believe that President Biden can express support for Israel but also start talking more about a Palestinian state and how to accomplish peace for both peoples.

FBaggins

(27,698 posts)

4. You aren't disagreeing with messaging. That's policy

Reply to Lonestarblue (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 1, 2024, 06:23 AM

Jul 2024

Firing someone doesn’t change that

rzemanfl

(30,288 posts)

5. I am postng a link that includes comments

Reply to Dulcinea (Original post)

Mon Jul 1, 2024, 06:23 AM

Jul 2024

from John Morgan, head of the biggest PI firm in the country and a big donor.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/joe-biden-s-disastrous-debate-blamed-on-bad-preparation-exhaustion/ar-BB1pcqJP?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ASTS&cvid=4f272ca3570f46e58646273567c01d19&ei=17

gab13by13

(25,224 posts)

6. Finally a thread about the real culprits from the poor debate,

Reply to Dulcinea (Original post)

Mon Jul 1, 2024, 06:24 AM

Jul 2024

There is a lot of blame to go around. If people wanted the title of campaign adviser they need to face consequences when things go poorly, starting with actually agreeing to the debate and then on down the line. Joe's campaign advisers did him no favors.

I believe Brooklynite did a post about talking with one of Joe's advisers, maybe he has more information?

gordianot

(15,512 posts)

7. That your family is needed to fire your advisors is disgusting.

Reply to Dulcinea (Original post)

Mon Jul 1, 2024, 06:24 AM

Jul 2024

I am willing to buy that Joe Biden was sick. That anyone needs family input to fire advisors is disgusting. Someone that feeble, suffering illness in service does not need to be President. I refuse to believe this story. That Biden reassured the family fine the public does not need details. A Biden explanation is in order speculation does not help.

MOMFUDSKI

(7,080 posts)

8. I want to hear from Jill.

Reply to gordianot (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 1, 2024, 06:47 AM

Jul 2024

The wife always knows the truth

wkt_1

(10 posts)

10. Biden's family encourages him to stay in the race as they discuss whether top advisers should be fired

Reply to Dulcinea (Original post)

Mon Jul 1, 2024, 08:42 AM

Jul 2024

Lets see what we see next

Fiendish Thingy

(18,506 posts)

11. Firing top advisers would be a mistake IMO

Reply to Dulcinea (Original post)

Mon Jul 1, 2024, 08:50 AM

Jul 2024

Joe has worked with some of these folks for decades and knows and trusts them.

Unless someone has done something particularly egregious that we don’t know about, they should stay.

The debate failure, for whatever reason, was Biden’s and Biden’s alone. Time to reassess his capabilities and strengths as a candidate , and how best to communicate his strengths and accomplishments as president moving forward.

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