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orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 09:27 AM Jul 2024

Urban heat island effect making temperatures 8F hotter in 65 US cities

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/10/heat-us-cities-study

Almost 34 million people in 65 major US cities, or 15% of the country’s population, are experiencing temperatures that are 8F higher than their surrounding areas, according to a new analysis from Climate Central, a non-profit research group.

That is largely due to built environments like parking lots and asphalt sidewalks, and a lack of trees, that contribute to what’s known as the urban heat island effect.
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Throughout the day, these hard surfaces retain solar radiation instead of expelling it. As a result, extreme heat becomes so much more concentrated in cities compared with rural surrounding areas.
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Some of the ways to reduce the impact of heat include planting trees and shrubs along streets and roadways. Converting asphalt-heavy infrastructure like parking lots into parks and green spaces can be essential in creating additional shade, while allowing the sun’s radiation to dissipate more quickly.

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One of the things the article points out is the environmental justice aspect of the heat island effect. "Red-lined" neighborhoods, largely poor black communities, might experience temperatures 12 deg F higher than surrounding areas. White working class communities of brick rowhouses with few trees suffer similarly. Suffering from the urban heat island is both racial and class injustice.

The article cites parking lots as major contributors to the heat island effect. It suggests vegetation as a cure. Trees and shrubs help by shading the ground and by the evapotranspiration effect, where water brought up by the roots evaporates off the leaves and absorbs a LOT of heat (evapotranspiration can cool the area by 10 deg F). I have another solution: let's cover parking lots with raised solar panels and use them to power homes and car chargers. We have millions of acres of land in the US covered with asphalt just to give us convenient places to store our masters the cars. Lets shade those acres and make use of the megaWatts of sunlight falling on them. That land is already destroyed - lets give it a higher use.


edit to add link to original study:
https://www.climatecentral.org/climate-matters/urban-heat-islands-2024
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Urban heat island effect making temperatures 8F hotter in 65 US cities (Original Post) orthoclad Jul 2024 OP
In Tucson, back in the 90s the location for the thermomter for reporting "official" temps was moved Attilatheblond Jul 2024 #1
There are many ways to fudge the records orthoclad Jul 2024 #2
Yep and it's been going on for some time. Attilatheblond Jul 2024 #3
The official temps should be consistent. Igel Jul 2024 #4
Totally missed my point Attilatheblond Jul 2024 #5
A similar thing happened to USGS orthoclad Jul 2024 #7
I don't think there'd be that much of a difference, TBH. AZCat Jul 2024 #8
One data point orthoclad Jul 2024 #9
Good thing we have entire organizations that evaluate weather data. AZCat Jul 2024 #10
The heat island argument has long been used orthoclad Jul 2024 #6
Phoenix and Scottsdale get their official temperatures ChazII Jul 2024 #12
Part of the reason orthoclad Jul 2024 #13
Water shortages and toxic water also a problem. CoopersDad Jul 2024 #11

Attilatheblond

(4,302 posts)
1. In Tucson, back in the 90s the location for the thermomter for reporting "official" temps was moved
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 09:35 AM
Jul 2024

Official temp gauge was moved from urban area to out by the airport, which is, of course, a more open area. How many other US cities moved their 'official' temp instruments?

Always struck me as a dirty trick, as I stood on a busy intersection waiting for my bus.

Now we need to find out, and publicize when officials in DOD and Navy started planning to move installations to slightly higher ground in preparation for the sea level rise they knew was coming.

Attilatheblond

(4,302 posts)
3. Yep and it's been going on for some time.
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 09:41 AM
Jul 2024

TPTB knew if they could just keep more of the voting public in the dark a bit longer, they could drown out the scientists and pols trying to get us to put the breaks on the warming.

Thank fossil fuel stockholders for letting it get this far this fast. Oh, and thank 3 of the current justices on the SCOTUS for their work stopping the FL recount in 2000.

Igel

(36,082 posts)
4. The official temps should be consistent.
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 10:54 AM
Jul 2024

Otherwise there's bad data informing climate science.

Report by location differently. But when you compare average temperatures over time and find extreme increases just in cities, that's not "climate change." That's microclimate change--important locally but not globally.

Locally (Houston) they give official temps at the large airport in a not too-built-up are N of Houston and local temps at the broadcast studio.

Attilatheblond

(4,302 posts)
5. Totally missed my point
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 12:46 PM
Jul 2024

TPTB have tinkered with the reporting going back to the mid 90s in Tucson and who knows how many other cities.

How long has official temp been reported from the Houston airport area? Where was it reported from before? Perhaps a more urban location?

I FULLY understand why they moved the 'official' reporting station out of urban Tucson and out into open area. It dropped the temp report and therefore, corrupted the data SINCE THE 90s. Cities create heat and official reporting tries to tinker. It's done on purpose.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
7. A similar thing happened to USGS
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 02:15 PM
Jul 2024

They had stations with hundred-year records of water quality which were defunded, thus losing the uninterrupted data record. Even if the stations were restored, there would be a gap in the record. This matters when discussing minima, maxima and means of things like water temperature, chemistry, and river stage. That gap could contain an extreme record, but is now unknown.

AZCat

(8,345 posts)
8. I don't think there'd be that much of a difference, TBH.
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 09:27 PM
Jul 2024

The airport is a bunch of concrete and asphalt, so you'll still get the heat island effect out there. And from what I remember from when I worked out by there it was still roasting during the summers.

Here's a current view of all the temperature stations in the Tucson area, the airport isn't really much different from the rest.
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/map/?&zoom=12&scroll_zoom=false&center=32.160645595496945,-110.99761962890626&boundaries=false,false,false,false,false,false,false,false,false,false,false&tab=layers&obs=true&obs_type=weather&elements=temp,wind,gust&temp_filter=-80,130&gust_filter=0,150&rh_filter=0,100&elev_filter=-300,14000&precip_filter=0.01,30&obs_popup=false&obs_density=60&obs_provider=ALL]

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
9. One data point
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 09:31 AM
Jul 2024

does not make the case. It would take regression analysis of hundreds of data points over years to show whether there is "much of a difference". Best would be to maintain the data record at the same point, under the same conditions.

This is why we use peer review.

AZCat

(8,345 posts)
10. Good thing we have entire organizations that evaluate weather data.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 05:11 PM
Jul 2024

Moving a weather station *can* make a huge difference, but blaming this on malicious intent is not very realistic. Unfortunately the means to control the narrative is much more simple - the parties aiming to discount AGW just lie, and when the data contradicts their lies they lie some more. The people who want to believe them will never check the data themselves, so why would anyone bother changing something like the location of a weather station when it's so much simpler to lie and lie and lie?

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
6. The heat island argument has long been used
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 02:11 PM
Jul 2024

by the right to dismiss climate change, arguing that the records show an increase only in urban environments, thus a "micro-climate" rather than global change. This is false. All indicators show a global increase in heat, with models frequently being shown to be too conservative in predictions of the rate of change. They use this heat island argument to justify the relocation of official temperature sensors away from urban centers. This pollutes the data record.

For the consistency you cite, temperature sensors should remain in their historic locations and be installed, calibrated and maintained the same.

This article shows the disproportionate impact of global heating on population centers, especially on the poor and non-white. The greater rise in urban temperatures is an early indicator of global conditions due to the greater sensitivity of the built environment. An early indicator as opposed to just an outlier.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
13. Part of the reason
Wed Jul 17, 2024, 08:34 AM
Jul 2024

is that airports are weather-critical sites. Wind and precip gauges get located there too. NWS spent considerable money working on airport-specific forecasts, which I think is a case of regulatory capture: the private airlines should have the responsibility, not the taxpayer. On the other hand, if NWS does it, it becomes part of the official record.

That said, for reasons of historical consistency and continuous record, the old temp site should be maintained.

CoopersDad

(2,866 posts)
11. Water shortages and toxic water also a problem.
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 01:29 PM
Jul 2024

Affluent communities always have the funds available either through a higher tax base or greater influence over agencies, or both.

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