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sl8

(16,137 posts)
Sat Aug 17, 2024, 06:51 AM Aug 17

'Hillbilly Elegy' is back in the spotlight. These Appalachians write a different tale

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/16/g-s1-17184/jd-vance-hillbilly-elegy-barbara-kingsolver-appalachia

''Hillbilly Elegy' is back in the spotlight. These Appalachians write a different tale

AUGUST 17, 2024 5:00 AM ET
By Clayton Kincade

Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis, the 2016 memoir from Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance, once again began flying off the shelves after former President Donald Trump named Vance as his running mate. Many have turned to the memoir to find out the story of Vance’s upbringing, a core part of why he’s on the Republican ticket to begin with. But the book also brings along a host of assumptions that many authors still find not to be true.

Pulitzer-winning author Barbara Kingsolver said she felt that it was her duty to tell a different story of Appalachian life than the one that Vance presented in the book.

“It used the same old victim-blaming trope. It was like a hero story: ‘I got out of here, I went to Yale,’” Kingsolver said of Vance. “‘But those lazy people, you know, just don't have ambitions. They don’t have brains. That’s why they’re stuck where they are.’ I disagree. And that’s my job, to tell a different story.”

Vance’s has been mired in controversy since its 2016 publication, especially by authors who cover the region. Vance, who writes that Appalachian culture “encourages social decay instead of counteracting it,” says this upbringing is central to his political ideology and thinking.

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'Hillbilly Elegy' is back in the spotlight. These Appalachians write a different tale (Original Post) sl8 Aug 17 OP
Banner Take-away: VANCE BELIEVES HE IS THINKING bucolic_frolic Aug 17 #1
I actually bought the book and started reading it but stopped because it was awful. Lonestarblue Aug 17 #2
My brother gave it to me Jilly_in_VA Aug 17 #6
I, too, have met people from Appalachia and they are like your description. Lonestarblue Aug 17 #7
And he isn't one of them either Jilly_in_VA Aug 17 #9
Thank you for sharing this FakeNoose Aug 18 #11
I recently read Praisesong for the Kitchen Ghosts by Crystal Wilkinson. tanyev Aug 17 #3
I'll put this book on my list. Scruffy1 Aug 17 #4
That sounds like a wonderful book! Lonestarblue Aug 17 #8
K&R Solly Mack Aug 17 #5
Check out the Bitter Southerner press/website/magazine -- great writing! They have a t-shirt that reads something like, LauraInLA Aug 17 #10

Lonestarblue

(11,321 posts)
2. I actually bought the book and started reading it but stopped because it was awful.
Sat Aug 17, 2024, 07:31 AM
Aug 17

Full of the worst stereotypes about Appalachia and way too self-promoting. His use of his own relatives to try to create this impression of an impoverished Vance who rose from the dregs of society to obtain an Ivy League degree was disgusting.

Jilly_in_VA

(10,639 posts)
6. My brother gave it to me
Sat Aug 17, 2024, 06:05 PM
Aug 17

I have no idea what he was thinking. I wonder if he even read it himself. I got about halfway through it and was tempted to throw it across the room. I struggled through to the end and then threw it in the trash. Sorry, dear brother, but I would not pass this book on to anyone. Nobody I love should have their mind polluted with this garbage.

JD is NOT a "hillbilly". He did NOT grow up in Appalachia. He grew up in southern Ohio, FFS. So did some of my ancestors, and they were most certainly NOT hillbillies, they were Palatine Germans whose families had settled in Virginia and then some of them had joined the westward movement. Some of JD's family may have been transplanted from Appalachia, but by the time it got to him, they were nothing but trailer trash, or what my mother, God rest her soul, would have called "poor white trash". I like what someone called JD---a "shillbilly". And BTW, I heard his original name was John David Bowman, or some such. He must have taken the name Vance from some stepdaddy.

I worked in home health among real Appalachian people in east Tennessee. They would look down their noses at people like JD. They may have been poor, but they were proud. They would give you the shirt off their back, if you asked. They would share what they had---I was often the recipient of goods from gardens, meals at their tables no matter how poor, gifts of homemade candy at Christmas or sausage at "hog killin' time", etc. I used to give a lot of the produce to other patients who weren't lucky enough to have gardens, but always had plenty left over to take home. I miss those folks.

Lonestarblue

(11,321 posts)
7. I, too, have met people from Appalachia and they are like your description.
Sat Aug 17, 2024, 06:20 PM
Aug 17

There’s a huge difference between celebrating the customs of a proud people and exploiting those people for personal aggrandizement. Vance was not celebrating strengths, he was exploiting people.

FakeNoose

(34,705 posts)
11. Thank you for sharing this
Sun Aug 18, 2024, 10:24 AM
Aug 18

I never read the book, but I did try to watch the mini-series that was based on Vance's book. At the time I had no idea of his political leaning, but I really hated the stories he told about his family. I think I bailed after the 3rd or 4th episode.

If you get a chance, try reading books by Barbara Kingsolver. She is a wonderful novelist who is proud of her Appalachian upbringing. Not all of her stories are about Appalachia, at least one book takes place in Arizona, and another is about a family of American missionaries in Africa. But her stories have a lot of heart and the characters are real people.

tanyev

(43,980 posts)
3. I recently read Praisesong for the Kitchen Ghosts by Crystal Wilkinson.
Sat Aug 17, 2024, 08:36 AM
Aug 17

Checked it out because it’s a cookbook, but it’s also a memoir of her family’s history as Black Appalachians. It was really interesting.

We all have loved ones we try so dearly to hold onto — even when they are no longer physically with us. And Crystal Wilkinson finds, in those desperate moments, happy memories centered around food have a uniquely protective power.

When baking thick and buttery biscuits, the acclaimed poet and fiction writer often summons “Granny Christine” to join her.

“The kitchen was where the secrets were revealed, plans were made, advice was given — all while preparing mouthwatering meals,” Wilkinson said.

Raised by her grandparents in the hollers of Indian Creek, Kentucky, Wilkinson vividly remembers the dishes that were commonplace in her childhood.

From wild kale and dandelion greens stewed with alliums to sweet jam cake made with preserved blackberries picked during the previous summer’s harvest, the kitchen is where she felt the most connected to her family.

https://uknow.uky.edu/professional-news/crystal-wilkinson-explores-black-appalachia-cooking-praisesong-kitchen-ghosts


Scruffy1

(3,399 posts)
4. I'll put this book on my list.
Sat Aug 17, 2024, 11:20 AM
Aug 17

I too grew up in a poorer rural community, but not near as bad as Mississippi. I have many fond memories of our large kitchen and the great variety of food.

LauraInLA

(900 posts)
10. Check out the Bitter Southerner press/website/magazine -- great writing! They have a t-shirt that reads something like,
Sat Aug 17, 2024, 07:13 PM
Aug 17

“This hillbilly needs no elegy.” I don’t think they can stand Vance.

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