Last night, Chump lost almost everything he invested in Truth Social
The Guardian link: https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/sep/04/trump-media-djt-stock
Shares in Trump Media & Technology Group, owner of Truth Social, closed below $17 on Wednesday, reversing all their gains since the companys rapid rise took hold in January.
The former president has been prohibited by a lock-up agreement from starting to sell shares in the firm until late September. While his majority stake in the firm is still worth some $2bn on paper, its value has fallen dramatically from $4.9bn in March.
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As a business, TMTG is not growing rapidly. It generated sales of just $4.13m in 2023, according to regulatory filings, and lost $58.2m.
I don't know how much dough he put into this venture initially, but his stocks will be almost worthless by the time he's able to unload any of them. As we all know ... everything he touches, dies.
captain queeg
(11,780 posts)jimfields33
(18,904 posts)Even if it falls to 1 billion, thats more than 100 people spend in a lifetime. Needs to go to zero.
-misanthroptimist
(1,193 posts)...when you a multiple of that to Russia (and others).
Attilatheblond
(4,307 posts)He isn't bringing in new voters and it seems likely he isn't bringing in many new billionaires either.
Anybody have links to the mortgages he is still burdened with? One might foresee a big real estate sell off. And, if memory serves, the whole thing with golf is that it is a dying 'sport'. Loser keeps on losing 'value'.
Think. Again.
(17,996 posts)How is it even still at $17/share???
notKeith
(149 posts)A 5x multiple on revenue for TMTG (approx $4.1M in 2023) would make the company worth ~$20M.
A 10x multiple (not reasonable; used for fast-growing tech stocks) would make the company worth ~$40M.
There are 200M shares of DJT stock. Ergo, it's actually worth about 10¢ per share, or, 20¢ per share if you're being charitable.
Here's hoping it actually gets near that point before Trump can sell off his shares in late September.
tulipsandroses
(6,221 posts)Perfect for money laundering.
Why would anyone invest in this company? It was never profitable. It has no product or services other than trump rants.
No respectable business would pay for advertising there. Therefore it is severely limited with being able to profit from advertising dollars.
jimfields33
(18,904 posts)karynnj
(59,942 posts)I think he put little or no money in, thus his basis is zero or close to it. The fact that it was super inflated when it went public is not relevant. The fact that it was included in estimates of his net worth doesn't matter.
FakeNoose
(35,697 posts)... but nobody wants to buy advertising on it. I wonder why?
Chump thinks just anything with his name on it will automatically be worth something. But actual business people are smarter, and most of them know better than to invest in Chump's crap.
Anyone who buys this stock now, won't get their investment back. So yeah, maybe it is money laundering after a fashion.
surfered
(3,140 posts)...I think the price will go down more before that date.
Irish_Dem
(57,591 posts)It makes me grumpy as I drink my morning coffee.
Turbineguy
(38,383 posts)There must be a hedge in there somewhere.
AKwannabe
(6,358 posts)Hit em hard right in the old stock price!
Tombstone his stock!!!!
Probatim
(3,019 posts)It's to get a payout from some of his friends (Russia, Saudi Arabia, and others) and to grift the loyal herd.
He'll cash out the $2bn later this month and leave the loyal herd swinging in the wind. FFF45 will reward Russia and others with more state secrets later on.
GopherGal
(2,401 posts)I claim no real expertise or any of this, but it has just always seemed to me that buying the stock was a way for certain entities (foreign governments, criminal enterprises, greedy capitalists, moronic cultists or otherwise) to funnel money to him, rather than an actual investment with prospect of monetary return. I suspect a knowledgable person could look at SEC filings or incorporation documents or something and figure out if his payout is to be harvested via 1) the after-lock-up selling of his shares 2) some sort of "management fee" pseudo-salary paid to himself from the company 3) Some sort of "licensing fee": for use of his name.
To the extent that Truth Social has any value, it has only been as the exclusive site for access to the Orange Abscess's blathering. Even assuming (against current evidence) that this can be converted into monetary value via advertising sales, it always remains one "take my toys and go home" tantrum away from TSF needing to turn to another platform (see the X exclusive interview with Eloon) or losing his newsworthiness after an election loss. So it was always at best a shaky proposition from a financial POV.
Probatim
(3,019 posts)On edit: I realize there are specified time periods for when this can happen but this scheming prick probably factored that into the "incorporation" dates.
lostnfound
(16,643 posts)He got a stake but whatever he sells it for is pure gravy.
Stephanie Ruhle covered it properly many months ago.
Its naive to rejoice that he is going to lose money.
Just a big transfer scheme / money laundering; thats my understanding.
FakeNoose
(35,697 posts)Chump will receive a nice tax bill next year, and he won't be able to fudge any numbers.
ToxMarz
(2,246 posts)But he's losing a hell of a lot of grift gravy, and that's reason enough to rejoice.
ProudMNDemocrat
(19,061 posts)Even more so now that he is losing to a "girl" who is way smarter than he is and who will make mince meat out of him.
tRump is not a sure bet anymore.
Couldn't happen to a more deserving treasonous rapist insurrectionist.
Oh, I left out "LOSER."
calimary
(84,339 posts)Asking for a friend.
AND asking for ME.
Ray Bruns
(4,604 posts)BlueWavePsych
(3,056 posts)More pain tomorrow.
Joinfortmill
(16,429 posts)eallen
(2,973 posts)The loss from when the merger was completed is NOT what Trump invested. He likely invested quite little. Maybe only his name. I haven't seen any information about that, and it isn't necessarily public.
The company still is overvalued by a large factor. He still will reap near $2 billion, if he can sell his shares near $17. He won't be able to do that. But he will squeeze it for what he can.
CaptainTruth
(7,222 posts)You love to see it.
https://www.barchart.com/stocks/quotes/DJT/overview
Silent Type
(6,685 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(154,549 posts)Even at the current price, this stock is over priced
returnee
(282 posts)
tells me:1) he does not have 2 billion of his own money, and 2) he would never invest that much even if he had it to spare.
If the 2 billion came from him it must have been funneled from some other deep pocket source, and someone who was willing to lose it. Because, as we all know, everything he touches turns to shit.
LudwigPastorius
(10,823 posts)Musk took Xitter full Nazi and stole Trumps potential customers.
Anyway, Im pretty sure Truth Social tanking wont affect Trump financially. I seriously doubt he invested his own money in that personality cult circle jerk.
FakeNoose
(35,697 posts)Maybe Musk plans to buy Chump's worthless platform (for pennies) and combine it with his own cesspool?
Blue Owl
(54,755 posts)What a mastermind he is .