"the level of gaslighting to say that Trump saved the Affordable Care Act on national television is astounding."

What is astounding is that MAGA folks will believe him.




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4h ago / 11:07 PM CDT

Vance's gaslighting was astounding
https://www.msnbc.com/politics/2024-election/live-blog/walz-vance-vice-presidential-debate-live-updates-rcna171510#rcrd58112


Chris Hayes

Chris Hayes speaking on MSNBC moments ago:

JD Vance is very good at this. I mean, this is what he’s been doing since he was in college, talking to libs and being kind of like, “Well, I sort of agree with you here but here’s the other part of this,” and he did that all perfectly fine tonight.

Walz, on the other hand, delivered on the substance, particularly on health care, the basics of the tax cuts and who he’s fighting for — the meat and potato core messages.

There were two moments that broke me a little bit, and I don’t know about the median information level of the viewer, but the level of gaslighting to say that Trump saved the Affordable Care Act on national television is astounding. Waltz, thankfully, did a very good fact-check on that.

I thought nothing was going to top that moment, but what topped it was Vance saying Trump handed power over peacefully on Jan. 20 — yes, when the coup failed and the cops brains had all been bashed in and there were actual dead bodies and blood on the Capitol 14 days earlier. That’s when Trump managed to do it. Then he didn’t even show up for the actual transfer of power on Inauguration Day.

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