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lees1975

(5,943 posts)
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 08:31 PM Oct 15

False Evangelical Prophets mixing with far right wing extremist politics is a volatile combination.

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2024/10/false-prophets-mixing-with-far-right.html

When I look at the rhetoric of some of the leaders recognized by Christian sects that fall on the Pentecostal and Charismatic end of the spectrum, like Lou Engle and Lance Wallnau, among others who were behind the "million woman" gathering in Washington, D.C., I don't see much that encourages the practices of the beatitudes or the fruit of the spirit. I see a faith that seems to delight in the torture and trouble of those they consider their enemies, one that exacts punishment for disobedience and consigns those who do not agree with their list of doctrinal requirements or political ambitions to hell.

That's the kind of attitude this "million woman" gathering exhibited in its call to prayer, answered, not by a million women, but by perhaps 40,000 or so, praying for God to deliver control of this country over to a rapist, a fraud, an insurrectionist, a grifter, thief and a pathological liar who openly denies the very core doctrine of Christian salvation by turning aside spiritual conviction and claiming that he has not committed any sin that requires God's forgiveness, because this man is going to bring revival.

That is deceitful and fraudulent, and elevating one that the Apostle John calls "anti-Christ," to a position of authority and leadership over themselves, exchanging the truth of the Christian gospel for yet another lie. This observation is not making a judgment. It is simply pointing out that what the Christian gospel says, and what Jesus and his Apostles taught, is contradictory to what these men are saying when it comes to whom they are giving political support, and the politics with which they are polluting and corrupting it.


Calling the power of God down on the heads of one's enemies is not loving them, as Jesus commanded. In fact, there's no room for hatred anywhere in the Christian gospel, and God never intended his church to convert anyone by force. We've been through this before, almost 15 centuries of an oppressive church, run by clergy that cowered to the monarchial rule of the provinces and used their influence to ensure lock step obedience to the civil government.
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False Evangelical Prophets mixing with far right wing extremist politics is a volatile combination. (Original Post) lees1975 Oct 15 OP
Aiming for a million women to answer the call to come to DC, 40,000 showed up. lees1975 Oct 16 #1
What's a true evangelical prophet? DavidDvorkin Oct 16 #2
There's no such thing, really. lees1975 Oct 16 #3
Next question: What's a prophet? DavidDvorkin Oct 16 #5
I was wondering the same thing. Solly Mack Oct 16 #4

lees1975

(5,943 posts)
1. Aiming for a million women to answer the call to come to DC, 40,000 showed up.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 11:24 AM
Oct 16

Being engaged in politics has cost right wing Christians millions of members. Now, if you want to see women show up in DC for a real rally, by the millions, wait until November 2.

lees1975

(5,943 posts)
3. There's no such thing, really.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 12:54 PM
Oct 16

The term "Evangelical" for the most part now is defined by a blended, partisan, theo-political perspective based on a literal reading and interpretation of the Bible. There isn't anything prophetic about it, it's a cult.

DavidDvorkin

(19,889 posts)
5. Next question: What's a prophet?
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 02:10 PM
Oct 16

The dictionary definition is "a person regarded as an inspired teacher or proclaimer of the will of God."

Even if God existed, why is a given person regarded as (the rest of the definition)? How are we to distinguish one preacher from another?

Some preachers have a large following, but why? Presumably, their preaching presses emotional buttons in large numbers of people, and those followers will then feel that the preacher is truly proclaiming the will of God, but why does anyone else pay attention to the emotional reaction of those followers?

For example, why does a conman like Billy Graham have a statue in the U.S. Capitol?

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