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maxsolomon

(35,036 posts)
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 11:58 AM Oct 23

NYT: Under an L.A. Freeway, a Psychiatric Rescue Mission

Last edited Wed Oct 23, 2024, 06:34 PM - Edit history (1)

Street psychiatry offers a radical solution: that for the most acutely mentally ill, psychiatric medication given outdoors could be a critical step toward housing. Dr. Rab, a medical director of Los Angeles County’s Homeless Outreach & Mobile Engagement program, describes the system his team has built as an outdoor hospital, or sometimes as a “DoorDash for meds.”

Every weekday morning, 18 teams fan out across the county, making rounds with about 1,700 patients in tents and vehicles and alleyways. The teams try to persuade them to accept medication, sometimes in an injectable form that remains in the bloodstream for weeks. If clients say no, the teams return, sometimes for months, until they say yes; if they still refuse, the team can petition a court to order involuntary treatment.

This is a major departure for the field of psychiatry, which long discouraged clinicians from tracking down patients in the chaotic conditions where they live. It alarms patients’ rights activists, who say people living on the street may not be in a position to give consent. And critics question whether state resources should go to expensive curbside medical treatment when what people really need is housing.


Over the years that followed, Dr. Jones’s Skid Row experiment has expanded into one of the largest street psychiatry efforts in the nation. Last year, the HOME team doubled in size and was allocated a budget of $43 million. It deploys 223 full time staff members, including 10 psychiatrists, eight psychiatric nurse-practitioners and a clinical pharmacist. This summer, the team started mobile phlebotomy laboratories, which allow staff members to perform blood tests on the spot. Of the 1,919 people the team served last year, 22 percent ended the year housed; around 10 percent were treated involuntarily.


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/20/health/los-angeles-homeless-psychiatry.html

I know you all hate the NYT, but it isn't all "traitorous fascist scum" lies about MFer. This article (and it's not their 1st) is about an issue that no Presidential Candidate has touched in the last 3 cycles - chronic homelessness, and in particular the desperately mentally ill homeless that residents of big cities (and some not-so big) live with every day. It's so much more complex than a "housing first" solution. Look how large LA's effort is, how much money and expertise they dedicate to it. There is NO discussion of this crisis at the federal level. Trump & Repukes DGAF, obviously. Dems don't bring it up. It's intractable, and no one wants to hear about it. But this is what it takes. It's a grind.
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NYT: Under an L.A. Freeway, a Psychiatric Rescue Mission (Original Post) maxsolomon Oct 23 OP
Thank you for posting Lulu KC Oct 23 #1
I believe there needs to be a FEMA-level Federal Response in many cities. maxsolomon Oct 23 #2
Agreed Lulu KC Oct 23 #3

Lulu KC

(4,182 posts)
1. Thank you for posting
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 12:39 PM
Oct 23

I read it Sunday and found it amazing. The comments were also insightful.

The situation is in every city I know of in the US now.

maxsolomon

(35,036 posts)
2. I believe there needs to be a FEMA-level Federal Response in many cities.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 12:53 PM
Oct 23

I see ranting street crazies and nodded-out junkies every day in downtown Seattle, scores more than even a decade ago.

These are people who aren't capable of caring for themselves most of the day - it's no surprise that so many die on the street.

Lulu KC

(4,182 posts)
3. Agreed
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 01:23 PM
Oct 23

And sometimes? They were in college two years ago and turned the corner to psychosis without any notice. And they think they are just fine and don't need any medication.

Don't get me started. It's a close-to-home educational experience that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

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