How Trump talks: Abrupt shifts, profane insults, confusing sentences
The Republican presidential nominee calls it the weave and a sign of a brilliant mind, but his remarks at recent public appearances have been strikingly erratic and coarse.
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By Isaac Arnsdorf and Josh Dawsey
October 25, 2024 at 5:00 a.m. EDT
Donald Trump debuted a name for his idiosyncratic, digressive speaking style this summer: the weave. ... The Republican presidential nominee, now 78, was frustrated with news coverage describing his speeches as rambling and speculating about cognitive decline, according to people who have talked with him, who like others spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations. ... Trump decided to brand his habit of going off on wide-ranging tangents as the mark of a vibrant and sophisticated mind, they said trying to turn what many voters, and some of his advisers, saw as a weakness into a strength.
I call it the weave. And some people think its so genius. But the bad people, what they say is, 'You know, he was rambling. Thats not a ramble. Theres no rambling. This is a weave. I call it the weave. You need an extraordinary memory because you have to come back to where you started.
Oct. 9 interview with Andrew Schulz on the Flagrant podcast
Trumps recent public appearances have been strikingly erratic, coarse and often confusing, even for a politician with a history of ad-libbing in three consecutive presidential runs, a Washington Post review of dozens of speeches, interviews and other public appearances shows. His speeches have gotten longer and more repetitive compared with those of past campaigns. He promotes falsehoods and theories that are so far removed from reality or appear wholly made up that they are often baffling to anyone not steeped in MAGA media or internet memes.
He jumps more abruptly between subjects and from his script to improvising, sometimes offering what sound like non-sequiturs. He occasionally mixes up words or names, and some of his sentences are meaningless or nonsensical. As he delivered more speeches in October, he has made multiple slip-ups per day. He has become more profane in public.
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Trump spokesman Steven Cheung in an email praised the Republican nominees rhetoric: President Trump is the greatest orator in political history and his patented Weave is a brilliant method to convey important stories and explain policies that will help everyday Americans turn the page from the last four years of Kamala Harriss failures. The media is too stupid and ignorant to understand or comprehend what is happening in the country and, therefore, is unable to accurately report on President Trumps achievements while in office and the pro-America agenda he will implement in his second term.
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Sabrina Rodriguez, Marianne LeVine and Hannah Knowles contributed to this report.
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By Isaac Arnsdorf
Isaac Arnsdorf is a national political reporter covering the Trump campaign. His first book, "Finish What We Started: The MAGA Movements Ground War to End Democracy," was published in 2024.follow on X iarnsdorf
By Josh Dawsey
Josh Dawsey is a political enterprise and investigations reporter for The Washington Post. He joined the paper in 2017 and previously covered the White House. Before that, he covered the White House for Politico, and New York City Hall and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie for the Wall Street Journal.follow on X @jdawsey1
dalton99a
(84,248 posts)who makes people leave early
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(48,778 posts)pat_k
(10,877 posts)It's time to stop thinking about the elephant and focus on our positive frame for the future.
Every bit of real estate we give the guy in our heads serves him, not us. His people are his people. We need to focus on and connect on our values. Ignore the man. Anyone who doesn't know what a danger he is by now isn't listening to us "running him down."
But they can be reached with a positive message grounded in shared values.
George Lakoff's 2016 analysis holds up today. It provides useful insight into who supports Trump and why and how we can do a better job of connecting on values.
https://press.uchicago.edu/books/excerpt/2016/lakoff_trump.html
I highly recommend the first sections:
Who Supports Trump and Why
- Winning and Insulting
- The Moral Hierarchy
- White Evangelicals
- Pragmatic Conservatives
- Laissez-faire Free Marketeers
- Direct vs. Systemic Causation
- Political Correctness
- Biconceptuals
Why His Lack of Policy Detail Doesnt Matter
How Trump Uses Your Brain to His Advantage
Here's the section on how we can do better.
How Can Democrats Do Better?
First, dont think of an elephant. Remember not to repeat false conservative claims and then rebut them with the facts. Instead, go positive. Give a positive truthful framing to undermine claims to the contrary. Use the facts to support positively-framed truth. Use repetition.
Second, start with values, not policies and facts and numbers. Say what you believe, but havent been saying. For example, progressive thought is built on empathy, on citizens caring about other citizens and working through our government to provide public resources for all, both businesses and individuals. Use history. Thats how America started. The public resources used by businesses were not only roads and bridges, but public education, a national bank, a patent office, courts for business cases, interstate commerce support, and of course the criminal justice system. From the beginning, the Private Depended on Public Resources, both private lives and private enterprise.
Over time those resources have included sewers, water and electricity, research universities and research support: computer science (via the NSF), the internet (ARPA), pharmaceuticals and modern medicine (the NIH), satellite communication (NASA and NOA), and GPS systems and cell phones (the Defense Department). Private enterprise and private life utterly depend on public resources. Have you ever said this? Elizabeth Warren has. Almost no other public figures. And stop defending the government. Talk about the public, the people, Americans, the American people, public servants, and good government. And take back freedom. Public resources provide for freedom in private enterprise and private life.
The conservatives are committed to privatizing just about everything and to eliminating funding for most public resources. The contribution of public resources to our freedoms cannot be overstated. Start saying it.
And dont forget the police. Effective respectful policing is a public resource. Chief David O. Brown of the Dallas Police got it right. Training, community policing, knowing the people you protect. And dont ask too much of the police: citizens have a responsibility to provide funding so that police dont have to do jobs that should be done by others.
Unions need to go on the offensive. Unions are instruments of freedom freedom from corporate servitude. Employers call themselves job creators. Working people are profit creators for the employers, and as such they deserve a fair share of the profits and respect and acknowledgement. Say it. Can the public create jobs. Of course. Fixing infrastructure will create jobs by providing more public resources that private lives and businesses depend on. Public resources to create more public resources. Freedom creates opportunity that creates more freedom.
Third, keep out of nasty exchanges and attacks. Keep out of shouting matches. One can speak powerfully without shouting. Obama sets the pace: Civility, values, positivity, good humor, and real empathy are powerful. Calmness and empathy in the face of fury are powerful. Bill Clinton won because he oozed empathy, with his voice, his eye contact, and his body. It wasnt his superb ability as a policy wonk, but the empathy he projected and inspired.
Values come first, facts and policies follow in the service of values. They matter, but they always support values.
Give up identity politics. No more womens issues, black issues, Latino issues. Their issues are all real, and need public discussion. But they all fall under freedom issues, human issues. And address poor whites! Appalachian and rust belt whites deserve your attention as much as anyone else. Dont surrender their fate to Trump, who will just increase their suffering.
And remember JFKs immortal, Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. Empathy, devotion, love, pride in our countrys values, public resources to create freedoms. And adulthood.
Be prepared. You have to understand Trump to stand calmly up to him and those running with him all over the country.
Listen to Simon Rosenberg. We need to close this thing with joy and love of country and love of one another. Trump is trump and his people are his people PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, I beg you, my fellow DUer's, stop giving them the gift of our attention. Look how many threads are trump this or trump that. PLEASE STOP! All the time spent on "spreading the word" about the horror show is time that is NOT spent on generating the sort of hopeful vision and optimism that mobilizes.
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Let me say one last thing. . . I want to remind everybody about one of the central reasons that we're all here together at hopium, which is that -- and Joe Biden talked about this in his State of the Union speech this year. He talked about FDR's speech in 1941; FDRs State of the Union address. He talked about how that address was the beginning of the call of America to rally against fascism and rising authoritarianism in wht became the rallying cry tht began to move America into World War II. That speech though was also the speech where FDR laid out his vision of the four freedoms and how he wanted a world that was not base on dominion and control, one country having control over another or one person having control over another. A world based not on dominion, but freedom. And he laid out the Freedom from Want, Freedom from Fear, Freedom of Religion, Freedom of the Press. He laid out these four freedoms for all of us . . . And these four freedoms became the foundation of the modern world. The four freedoms became the basis of the Atlantic Charter that got the United States and the United Kingdom together in 1941, that became the basis of the alliance that won World War II. The four freedoms became the basis of the United Nations Charter in 1945, which laid out an international law, a global system where one nation could not have control of another; dominion over another. And it was the beginningg of the unraveling of all holdings by European powers, their colonial system. FDR forced the unraveling of all that to be consisten with the United Nations view that no nation should have dominion over another. This is part of the the war in Ukraine is about. Russia is trying to go back to a period prior to the United Nations where countries coul have dominion over one another. And then in 1948, negotiated in part by Eleanor Roosevelt, there waas the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which ws the first time in international law individual people had human rights... And that world of freedom -- of these four freedoms, that world of Pax Americana over the last 80 years has created a golden age in human history. There's never been better time to be alive in all of human history that there's been in over these past 80 years. We've seen life expectancy go from 45 years to over 70 years now in the world, we've seen extreme poverty, dispite huge explosion of population, plummet in raw numbers. We've seen more people living under democracy that any time in human history. We've seen more people being literate an being able to read and write. Three times as many people today can do so as a percentage of the population than in the 1940's. Meaning they have more capacity to do and contribute and live out their dreams than anytime before. This has been a golden age in human history.
What's important for us is we get this final fuel to go do the work that we need to do for our country and our democracy and for our kids. We have to remind ourselves that that world - this golden age in human history -- was something that WE did. The Democratic Party of the United States did that. We created a golden age in human history. And it's my view that there has never been an organized force that's done more good for more people than the Democratic Party that we're all part of.
One of the reasons I'm so confident that we're going to prevail here in the next 13 days is that when our party was called in the 1940s, we all answered. We rose to the occasion, and we defeated authoritarianism and fascism then. And what Joe Biden began in his State of the Union speech, he was making a new call asking our party to once again answer a all to defeat fascism here and all around the world; to make sure that freedom continued to prevail over dominion.
The reason I end all of this so confident and so optimistic is because all of you have been answer this call. Millions and millions of Americans have been going to work, donating money, writing postcards -- 80 million postcards are in the process of hitting all across the country -- canvasing every day, texting, phone banking, info warring, working your networks with good informtion. You guys have gone to work, you've answered the call. Millions of you have done this. And the millions of you who have answered this call is more powerful than the dancing dipshits on the other side, right? Let them have Elon Musk and a bunch of these oligarchs. We've got all of you. We're more powerful than they are. And we are doing the work for our democracy...
Do more, worry less...
Forgive the typos but I'm on the run and am not a great typist.
eppur_se_muova
(37,388 posts)I suspect every one of these stories peels off a few more undecided voters -- or persuades even MAGAts that maybe they'd just as well not vote.
pat_k
(10,877 posts)And as Rosenberg points out, it puts us in fear and worry that saps energy and immobilizes. FAR FAR FAR more damaging than the tiny bit of erosion of DT support.
It's the "Don't think of an elephant" problem. We need to move ourselves and others to a positive frame, not immerse ourselves in their negative frame.
On edit: Posting the horrors of trump here certainly isn't reaching any of them. It is just a symptom of the nation's addiction to the horror show and that addiction has served trump very, very, very well.
eppur_se_muova
(37,388 posts)Holy cow, this Steven Cheung is even more of a sociopath than tfg himself -- and I wouldn't have thought that possible !