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Zorro

(16,284 posts)
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 12:32 AM Nov 1

Lured by Luxury Vacations, They Were Stuck With Debt

Shortly after Hope and William Gagnon arrived in Cancún, Mexico, from Detroit, the couple were approached by a salesperson from a vacation club. About 21 hours later, they had agreed to pay $27,000 to join the club — a significant commitment for Ms. Gagnon, a customer feedback specialist, and Mr. Gagnon, a hospital courier.

They had bought what they believed the Unlimited Vacation Club was selling: free or deeply discounted weeklong stays at luxury resorts with opulent suites, pristine beaches, swim-up bars and private concierges.

But the Gagnons learned after they signed the contract that the club had numerous restrictions. The unavailability of many resorts, hidden fees and a requirement to pay extra for upgrades that would give them access to the swankiest rooms made it nearly impossible to book the kind of vacation that had impressed them during a pitch meeting.

“I was like, my God, we got had,” Ms. Gagnon said.

Vacation clubs are the latest twist on timeshares — an industry often criticized, and even mocked, for using aggressive sales tactics to persuade people to buy a share of a vacation property, giving them the right to use it for a certain number of days a year.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/31/realestate/unlimited-vacation-club-hyatt-contracts-deception.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Wk4.8fl2.8oKHifBEvqR_&smid=url-share

I've taken advantage of several vacation club/timeshare teaser deals (Honolulu, Palm Desert, Newport Beach, Las Vegas). The latest offer pitched to me is a 4 night upscale hotel in DC stay for $299 total plus a $200 hotel voucher for future stays.

The teaser deals are great if you can stomach their 2-3 hour hard sell pressure and can resist their ridiculously expensive proposals; one can go to many places based on one's schedule and convenience without being limited only to what they offer regarding time and location.

Their salespeople get quite annoyed when they can't convince me to drop thousands of dollars initially + monthly maintenance fees forever, but I see many elderly couples at these gatherings who I think may be their prime targets. IMO they all are a predatory operation.

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duncang

(3,591 posts)
1. Years back my wife and I went to a time share deal.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 12:41 AM
Nov 1

You know the dinner, promise of a decent looking inflatable 3 person boat with picture etc. . Of course we didn’t notice long small print stuff saying available on the boat.

They were using the yes sales method. All through the tour wouldn’t it be great bringing your friends and family here? Wouldn’t it be nice having a no problems place to stay all across the world. Etc. . We weren’t swayed and walked away with a single person inflatable raft that could probably handle a 10 year old. But the dinner was good. We decided it was a never again thing.

Aristus

(68,327 posts)
4. Mrs. Aristus and I got hooked by one of those scams on our honeymoon.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 10:09 AM
Nov 1

I deferred to her on the purchase decision because she claimed to be better with money than me. (She thinks being raised in a wealthy family means she’s good with money.)

She decided to go for it, and we put the fee on a credit card. Once she read the fine print back at our hotel room, she hit the roof.

She called the credit card company and got the charge reversed. And we’ve both been a lot more careful about these scams since.

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(10,197 posts)
2. ' if you can stomach their 2-3 hour hard sell pressure" ugh... makes me nauseous to even think about
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 08:19 AM
Nov 1

A gym offered a free day pass to try it out. I went along with a friend. We never got to use the gym, the guy never even offered. The hard sell to sign up was disgusting.

Skittles

(159,240 posts)
5. taking less than a day to agree to pay $27,000 to join a club
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 05:27 PM
Nov 1

sorry but - just how fucking stupid are these people?

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