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NoSheep

(8,274 posts)
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:46 AM Nov 9

Can anyone post the David Brooks opinion piece in NYT - Voters to Elites: Do You See Me Now?

I can't get past the paywall and a search of The Wayback Machine yielded no results. Thank you in advance.
Note: I don't like David Brooks, even though he might be right about this. Just want to discuss the article with a friend.

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Can anyone post the David Brooks opinion piece in NYT - Voters to Elites: Do You See Me Now? (Original Post) NoSheep Nov 9 OP
See if this works Lulu KC Nov 9 #1
Thank you for that. Some very good point in that article. Autumn Nov 9 #6
Thank you. He has many great points. Stuff people don't like thinking about or talking about. NoSheep Nov 9 #13
Brooks is a hack who should be ignored Fiendish Thingy Nov 9 #2
To you maybe. Autumn Nov 9 #5
Tired of this elite story kansasobama Nov 9 #3
Tom Nichols said no one hates white uneducated voters more than the Republicans Marigold Nov 9 #9
I agree kansasobama Nov 9 #10
The media describes Democrats as elites yet ignores the Republican billionaires who are true elites. Lonestarblue Nov 9 #4
Wealthy is not the only definition of elite. He is referring to the political elite Autumn Nov 9 #8
And the ONLY proposals the GOP stands for are giving taxpayer handouts to rich donors valleyrogue Nov 10 #18
This is upside down world. Let's put elites in charge and ask if they see us now. onecaliberal Nov 9 #7
it is mind boggling Skittles Nov 9 #15
David Brooks has been spouting this garbage for years. . . Stargleamer Nov 9 #11
Their slur of " Elite" when referring to democrats is not just about education tulipsandroses Nov 9 #12
Funny how we keep electing Democrats to the presidency, Congress, and statehouses. valleyrogue Nov 10 #17
Exactly. ancianita Nov 10 #20
LOL Skittles Nov 9 #14
That has nothing to do with this election. valleyrogue Nov 10 #16
Coming back to this post to say what I've realized since I read the piece Brooks wrote NoSheep Nov 10 #19
EXACTLY. We must never equate "sincerity" and ''authenticity" with honesty. ancianita Nov 10 #21

NoSheep

(8,274 posts)
13. Thank you. He has many great points. Stuff people don't like thinking about or talking about.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 06:28 PM
Nov 9

Like I said, I don't even like David Brooks. I do think he may have become more sensible and not just a shill for centrism

Fiendish Thingy

(18,506 posts)
2. Brooks is a hack who should be ignored
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:49 AM
Nov 9

Brooks is the Chuck Todd of print media- always wrong, always asks the wrong questions.

Marigold

(193 posts)
9. Tom Nichols said no one hates white uneducated voters more than the Republicans
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:16 PM
Nov 9

And that every Republican knows this. Why do you think those carpetbaggers do everything they can not to live in the districts they represent? They just have mastered the art of feeding red meat to the base. And blatantly lie to them using code words and scare tactics to vilify the party that would actually help them.

Democrats always take the high road and try to be inclusive. I am sick of the elite blame. Maybe we need better education so that someone can understand more than a three word sentence. I also think we underestimate the power of the evangelical churches and the staunch Catholics. Aren't most of the current supreme court Catholics?

I have no answer, because I think Kamala tried it all in heels and dancing backwards. Perhaps these people need to drink the poison and actually suffer the consequences. It isn't until we reach bottom that we put up our hand for someone to pull us up.

kansasobama

(1,493 posts)
10. I agree
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:28 PM
Nov 9

What do they want? They will not train,will not fund training, but want the same old high paying jobs and live in the past? Then, they blame the educated?

Lonestarblue

(11,807 posts)
4. The media describes Democrats as elites yet ignores the Republican billionaires who are true elites.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:03 PM
Nov 9

Musk, Thiel, Trump, etc. Those are the true elites who are ruining the country.

Autumn

(46,280 posts)
8. Wealthy is not the only definition of elite. He is referring to the political elite
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:13 PM
Nov 9

the richest, most powerful, best-educated, or best-trained group in a society:
the country's educated elite
a member of the elite
disapproving A powerful and corrupt elite has bled this country dry.

*the political elite
*the intellectual elite
*the educated ruling elite
.

valleyrogue

(1,098 posts)
18. And the ONLY proposals the GOP stands for are giving taxpayer handouts to rich donors
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 11:39 AM
Nov 10

while finding ways to screw over everybody else.

THAT is "elitism."

onecaliberal

(35,787 posts)
7. This is upside down world. Let's put elites in charge and ask if they see us now.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:04 PM
Nov 9

Who is this god damn stupid?

Stargleamer

(2,205 posts)
11. David Brooks has been spouting this garbage for years. . .
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:37 PM
Nov 9

Trump is not the president of the “common man”, but the president of the super-rich, and also the president of the resentful. Sometimes I wonder if David Brooks ever acknowledges People of Color and who they vote for.

tulipsandroses

(6,211 posts)
12. Their slur of " Elite" when referring to democrats is not just about education
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:44 PM
Nov 9

They use it as code for everything they don't like about democrats.
It's about push back on their racist bullshit. On their religious bullshit. Their bullshit of trying to control women and anyone that does not think like them, or look like them.
I remember Chris Matthews, before he was kicked off MSNBC droning on about the same shit night after night. They are mad because Elites are looking down on them. He would go on and on about how we should respect their stance on abortion even if we disagree.
As if complete strangers wanting to control my body is something I should fucking respect.
They feel their way of life being taken away from them by elites - Which usually means they don't like pushback on trying to control everyone else.
Their resentment is not just about " education".

valleyrogue

(1,098 posts)
17. Funny how we keep electing Democrats to the presidency, Congress, and statehouses.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 11:37 AM
Nov 10

So the "elite" claim is just nonsense.

This election was about white males and their fearful female companions rejecting the idea women can lead. This despite the literally tens of thousands of cases to the contrary.

ancianita

(38,514 posts)
20. Exactly.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 11:23 PM
Nov 10

pro-Republican media promote the trumpian flip: "Elites, elites, we're not the elites YOU"RE the elites!"

Skittles

(159,240 posts)
14. LOL
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 10:41 PM
Nov 9

WHAT PART OF TRUMP IS AN ELITE DO THEY NOT FUCKING UNDERSTAND - HE IS A CORRUPT BILLIONAIRE PIECE OF SHIT WHO STIFFS WORKERS

valleyrogue

(1,098 posts)
16. That has nothing to do with this election.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 11:35 AM
Nov 10

No sane Democratic politician wants to cater to the sexist, racist vote, and that is what this election was about, especially the sexism.

NoSheep

(8,274 posts)
19. Coming back to this post to say what I've realized since I read the piece Brooks wrote
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 10:53 PM
Nov 10

He’s gaslighting liberals and progressives. He wants us to feel this is on us. I thought what he wrote was interesting because I fucking do NOT understand people who might vote for that maniac but I am certain this is not my fault. It is the first time I have ever thought anything the man had to say was at least interesting but right wing owned media and the psychotic voices it gives a platform to has nothing to do with my ideals and ethics. The lies it spouts are not mine. I had to get that off my chest. I read political analysis all day Saturday and today I read anger and sarcasm. It jerked me around and I realized conservatives are all to quick to blame liberals and progressives for something we’ve busted our asses to stand up to. Small rant over.

ancianita

(38,514 posts)
21. EXACTLY. We must never equate "sincerity" and ''authenticity" with honesty.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 11:32 PM
Nov 10

Brooks, deep down, probably sincerely believes his own authentic crap, and equates the two with honesty.

In the bigger picture, whatever content corporate media can profit from to get over on the public is what they'll print. Always take the NYT news fact, analysis and context with a grain of salt. They'll flay our psyches whether we're in the White House or not.

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