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NoSheep

(8,284 posts)
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:46 AM Nov 2024

Can anyone post the David Brooks opinion piece in NYT - Voters to Elites: Do You See Me Now?

I can't get past the paywall and a search of The Wayback Machine yielded no results. Thank you in advance.
Note: I don't like David Brooks, even though he might be right about this. Just want to discuss the article with a friend.

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Can anyone post the David Brooks opinion piece in NYT - Voters to Elites: Do You See Me Now? (Original Post) NoSheep Nov 2024 OP
See if this works Lulu KC Nov 2024 #1
Thank you for that. Some very good point in that article. Autumn Nov 2024 #6
Thank you. He has many great points. Stuff people don't like thinking about or talking about. NoSheep Nov 2024 #13
Brooks is a hack who should be ignored Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #2
To you maybe. Autumn Nov 2024 #5
Tired of this elite story kansasobama Nov 2024 #3
Tom Nichols said no one hates white uneducated voters more than the Republicans Marigold Nov 2024 #9
I agree kansasobama Nov 2024 #10
The media describes Democrats as elites yet ignores the Republican billionaires who are true elites. Lonestarblue Nov 2024 #4
Wealthy is not the only definition of elite. He is referring to the political elite Autumn Nov 2024 #8
And the ONLY proposals the GOP stands for are giving taxpayer handouts to rich donors valleyrogue Nov 2024 #18
This is upside down world. Let's put elites in charge and ask if they see us now. onecaliberal Nov 2024 #7
it is mind boggling Skittles Nov 2024 #15
David Brooks has been spouting this garbage for years. . . Stargleamer Nov 2024 #11
Their slur of " Elite" when referring to democrats is not just about education tulipsandroses Nov 2024 #12
Funny how we keep electing Democrats to the presidency, Congress, and statehouses. valleyrogue Nov 2024 #17
Exactly. ancianita Nov 2024 #20
LOL Skittles Nov 2024 #14
That has nothing to do with this election. valleyrogue Nov 2024 #16
Coming back to this post to say what I've realized since I read the piece Brooks wrote NoSheep Nov 2024 #19
EXACTLY. We must never equate "sincerity" and ''authenticity" with honesty. ancianita Nov 2024 #21

NoSheep

(8,284 posts)
13. Thank you. He has many great points. Stuff people don't like thinking about or talking about.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 06:28 PM
Nov 2024

Like I said, I don't even like David Brooks. I do think he may have become more sensible and not just a shill for centrism

Fiendish Thingy

(19,023 posts)
2. Brooks is a hack who should be ignored
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:49 AM
Nov 2024

Brooks is the Chuck Todd of print media- always wrong, always asks the wrong questions.

Marigold

(230 posts)
9. Tom Nichols said no one hates white uneducated voters more than the Republicans
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:16 PM
Nov 2024

And that every Republican knows this. Why do you think those carpetbaggers do everything they can not to live in the districts they represent? They just have mastered the art of feeding red meat to the base. And blatantly lie to them using code words and scare tactics to vilify the party that would actually help them.

Democrats always take the high road and try to be inclusive. I am sick of the elite blame. Maybe we need better education so that someone can understand more than a three word sentence. I also think we underestimate the power of the evangelical churches and the staunch Catholics. Aren't most of the current supreme court Catholics?

I have no answer, because I think Kamala tried it all in heels and dancing backwards. Perhaps these people need to drink the poison and actually suffer the consequences. It isn't until we reach bottom that we put up our hand for someone to pull us up.

kansasobama

(1,662 posts)
10. I agree
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:28 PM
Nov 2024

What do they want? They will not train,will not fund training, but want the same old high paying jobs and live in the past? Then, they blame the educated?

Lonestarblue

(12,353 posts)
4. The media describes Democrats as elites yet ignores the Republican billionaires who are true elites.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:03 PM
Nov 2024

Musk, Thiel, Trump, etc. Those are the true elites who are ruining the country.

Autumn

(47,396 posts)
8. Wealthy is not the only definition of elite. He is referring to the political elite
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:13 PM
Nov 2024

the richest, most powerful, best-educated, or best-trained group in a society:
the country's educated elite
a member of the elite
disapproving A powerful and corrupt elite has bled this country dry.

*the political elite
*the intellectual elite
*the educated ruling elite
.

valleyrogue

(1,776 posts)
18. And the ONLY proposals the GOP stands for are giving taxpayer handouts to rich donors
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 11:39 AM
Nov 2024

while finding ways to screw over everybody else.

THAT is "elitism."

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
7. This is upside down world. Let's put elites in charge and ask if they see us now.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:04 PM
Nov 2024

Who is this god damn stupid?

Stargleamer

(2,340 posts)
11. David Brooks has been spouting this garbage for years. . .
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:37 PM
Nov 2024

Trump is not the president of the “common man”, but the president of the super-rich, and also the president of the resentful. Sometimes I wonder if David Brooks ever acknowledges People of Color and who they vote for.

tulipsandroses

(6,886 posts)
12. Their slur of " Elite" when referring to democrats is not just about education
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:44 PM
Nov 2024

They use it as code for everything they don't like about democrats.
It's about push back on their racist bullshit. On their religious bullshit. Their bullshit of trying to control women and anyone that does not think like them, or look like them.
I remember Chris Matthews, before he was kicked off MSNBC droning on about the same shit night after night. They are mad because Elites are looking down on them. He would go on and on about how we should respect their stance on abortion even if we disagree.
As if complete strangers wanting to control my body is something I should fucking respect.
They feel their way of life being taken away from them by elites - Which usually means they don't like pushback on trying to control everyone else.
Their resentment is not just about " education".

valleyrogue

(1,776 posts)
17. Funny how we keep electing Democrats to the presidency, Congress, and statehouses.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 11:37 AM
Nov 2024

So the "elite" claim is just nonsense.

This election was about white males and their fearful female companions rejecting the idea women can lead. This despite the literally tens of thousands of cases to the contrary.

ancianita

(39,862 posts)
20. Exactly.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 11:23 PM
Nov 2024

pro-Republican media promote the trumpian flip: "Elites, elites, we're not the elites YOU"RE the elites!"

Skittles

(162,229 posts)
14. LOL
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 10:41 PM
Nov 2024

WHAT PART OF TRUMP IS AN ELITE DO THEY NOT FUCKING UNDERSTAND - HE IS A CORRUPT BILLIONAIRE PIECE OF SHIT WHO STIFFS WORKERS

valleyrogue

(1,776 posts)
16. That has nothing to do with this election.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 11:35 AM
Nov 2024

No sane Democratic politician wants to cater to the sexist, racist vote, and that is what this election was about, especially the sexism.

NoSheep

(8,284 posts)
19. Coming back to this post to say what I've realized since I read the piece Brooks wrote
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 10:53 PM
Nov 2024

He’s gaslighting liberals and progressives. He wants us to feel this is on us. I thought what he wrote was interesting because I fucking do NOT understand people who might vote for that maniac but I am certain this is not my fault. It is the first time I have ever thought anything the man had to say was at least interesting but right wing owned media and the psychotic voices it gives a platform to has nothing to do with my ideals and ethics. The lies it spouts are not mine. I had to get that off my chest. I read political analysis all day Saturday and today I read anger and sarcasm. It jerked me around and I realized conservatives are all to quick to blame liberals and progressives for something we’ve busted our asses to stand up to. Small rant over.

ancianita

(39,862 posts)
21. EXACTLY. We must never equate "sincerity" and ''authenticity" with honesty.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 11:32 PM
Nov 2024

Brooks, deep down, probably sincerely believes his own authentic crap, and equates the two with honesty.

In the bigger picture, whatever content corporate media can profit from to get over on the public is what they'll print. Always take the NYT news fact, analysis and context with a grain of salt. They'll flay our psyches whether we're in the White House or not.

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