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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(116,480 posts)
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 02:53 PM Dec 3

Jeff Tiedrich - Hunter Biden's pardon has broken the media's brains

here’s a fun double standard to which the worthless scribblers of the corporate-controlled press hold our political parties:

Democrats must walk a narrow ethical path, and never stray one inch from it. they’re expected to kowtow to every demand the media makes. Joe Biden is expected to run a letter-perfect presidency. Kamala Harris was expected to run a flawless campaign. the slightest deviation, and the media will blow it up into a weeks-long scandal.

Republicans, on the other hand, are given a free pass to do whatever the fuck they want. lie? no problem. cheat? go for it, homies. protect a sex-trafficking predator within their midst? hey, we wrote one strongly-worded editorial. what more can we do?

and then there’s that Very Special Boy himself, Little Donny Convict. he could literally tear the Constitution in pieces and use the shreds to wipe his ass, and the press would just shrug their shoulders. look, that’s just Donny being Donny. it’s just the way it is.

https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/hunter-bidens-pardon-has-broken-the

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patphil

(7,111 posts)
1. Seems to me that much of the media's brains were already broken.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 02:57 PM
Dec 3

There's not a lot of ethics in their establishment of two widely divergent, different standards of conduct for Democrats and Republicans.

ificandream

(10,745 posts)
2. You look like an absolute fool with this comment, Tiedrich.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 02:57 PM
Dec 3

Learn what journalism is. And learn the difference between news and opinion.

ificandream

(10,745 posts)
9. No, he's not.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 05:41 PM
Dec 3

There's a big difference between news stories and opinion pieces. All the pearl clutching is being done on the op-ed page. The facts are in the news stories. No pearl clutching there. People need to get the difference between news stories and opinion pieces. They are not one and the same, even if Fox makes you think they are by equating them so often.

MerrilyMerrily

(193 posts)
12. Well, news stories and op-eds are not the same
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 09:34 PM
Dec 3

That's true. But the headlines that go with the stories, and the way the paragraphs of the story are ordered - somehow the most relevant facts are further down in the story than most people read - that's up to the reporters' editors. Far too often in the WaPo and NYT, the editors write slanted headlines, so people who choose not to read a particular story will never know the facts reported don't match the headline. Thus certain themes - Dems are in disarray, something positive could pose problems for Biden, Harris, Obama, etc. - are pushed in news articles as well as op-eds. NYT Pitchbot covers this aspect very well.

Let's not forget all the factual news stories that are covered on the 24/7 news channels by endless panel discussions, which turn news stories into 2 or 3 differing opinions.


ificandream

(10,745 posts)
14. It's not exactly that way ... at least it wasn't when I wrote headlines.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 01:58 PM
Dec 4

I worked for a metro daily paper (a Pulitzer winner) for 37 years. I worked on the copy desk the last decade or so when I was there. It was EXTREMELY important that headlines be accurate. Anything we edited (the stories, the headlines) were run by our copy desk chief. The headlines weren't accepted automatically and would get turned back to you to rewrite if the copy chief thought they were inaccurate. Now I don't know how it works at those two papers now, but I suspect there is a mode of accuracy on headlines now. But I have to say there are stories that are run now that I as an editor would have never approved. As far as the way stories are edited, that's subjective. But I have to say that there were criteria we would follow when editing. I still believe much of that is still followed today. And I'll say again that news stories and opinion stories are two different animals. If you read an opinion story you don't agree with, don't lose any sleep over it. Opinion pieces have been in newspapers for centuries and have been causing controversy forever. As Walter Cronkite used to day, "That's the way it is."

Paladin

(28,973 posts)
5. Truer words were never before printed.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 03:38 PM
Dec 3

Tiedrich is correct, as usual. To any of you who are foolish enough to still be harboring doubts about this: Go hang out in the NY Times opinion section for a week. trump is getting a walk---the meat cleaver treatment is reserved for Biden and Harris and the Democratic Party.

ificandream

(10,745 posts)
10. You said it yourself ...the New York Times OPINION section.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 05:46 PM
Dec 3

The op-ed page is not the same as news pages. They are opinion. Some you will like, some you won't. People are too hung up on pundits these days and have forgotten that news and opinion are separate things. Very separate things. Ignore the pundits like Tiedrich, who I pay little attention to. They should not be your principal source of information no matter how much you agree with them. And the NY Times isn't going to bash anyone in news stories. Now opinion stories are a different matter. That's where a writer can say what he wants.

Paladin

(28,973 posts)
13. If you want to pimp for the NYT, be my guest.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 07:16 AM
Dec 4

If you want to pretend that the NYT opinion section had no impact on the losses that Democrats suffered, have at it. I know better.

ificandream

(10,745 posts)
15. Opinion sections are just that. Opinon.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 03:14 PM
Dec 5

Ignore them if you want to. But don't tell the NY Times or any other newspaper they can't print an OPINION because some people disagree with it. Op-eds have been around long before any of us were born. They are part of the life blood of a free press. If we start limiting them, you limit freedom of the press. We're going to have enough trouble with Trump and his dingbat magamaniacs putting clamps on the press in America and our freedoms over the next four years. We don't need Democrats doing it too.

Clouds Passing

(2,697 posts)
6. Easy explanation: media is the bullhorn of the criminal class. Crime is equivalent to godliness.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 03:43 PM
Dec 3

Being good, moral, ethical is equivalent to evil bad

ificandream

(10,745 posts)
16. Absolute hogwash.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 03:19 PM
Dec 5

Anyone who knows the real workings of the media (and not the social media version) knows this. For example, the media barreled down hard on Trump's crap and by reporting it helped bring him to justice (even though the Supreme Court insisted on giving him a get of jail free card). That the kind of thing Trump tells his magats. We shouldn't be agreeing with Trump on anything.

Clouds Passing

(2,697 posts)
18. The recent relentless beatdown of President Biden for pardoning Hunter. The constant sane washing of dump & assoc.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 04:58 PM
Dec 5

I rest my case.

ificandream

(10,745 posts)
19. You mean in opinion pieces?
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 09:57 PM
Dec 7

That means nothing. Opinion pieces ar just that. Some lunkhead's opinion. If there's one big problem in the media, it's the overmixing of news and opinion. They are not the same. Zero.

dlk

(12,468 posts)
8. Most of the press is too young to remember Neil Bush
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 04:59 PM
Dec 3

They could always do a little research, though.

ificandream

(10,745 posts)
17. Funny that you hear Repugs saying the same thing about Democrats.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 03:26 PM
Dec 5

It's bad when we start using their bullshit.

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