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sop

(12,978 posts)
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 03:02 PM Feb 1

'Who Can Stop Elon's 'Team' Wilding Its Way Through the Federal Government?'

"Over the course of the last two weeks, I’ve tried to drive home the point that the Democrats in Congress mostly can’t do anything to stop what the Trump administration is doing. That’s not a matter of weakness or bad strategy. Voters decided in November to put all federal power in the hands of Republicans. That’s done. It already happened. Many of the cries for Democrats to 'do something' amount to thinking that if Democrats get energized and forceful enough they can undo the consequences of that election, as though there’s some 'off' lever that if you reach really high you can grab ahold of and make all of this stop. You might as well demand Kamala Harris show some gumption and start issuing her own executive orders."

"This emphatically does not mean Democrats are doing all they can or that there’s nothing they can do. But it is critical at every level to understand what the menu of actions includes. As much as this might seem pedantic, it’s critical to think very clearly about what an opposition does and what its tools are. Otherwise you’re just getting riled up demanding your fighters run at full speed, head first into the castle wall."

"Fundamentally this is a battle over public opinion. And there are three areas of action to engage that battle."

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/who-can-stop-elons-team-wilding-its-way-throuhg-the-federal-government

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PortTack

(35,352 posts)
1. Thx for posting. This article is spot on! Running around ranting does nothing other than make us look weak
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 03:07 PM
Feb 1

And helpless. That’s what they want!

Start acting and stop REACTING! Do something no matter how small!

For starters
Call your congress ppl
Post what they are doing to all SM sites you might be on
Don’t engage maga, it’s useless and aggravating as hell!
And…most importantly STOP SPENDING ANY MONEY on anything except absolute necessities!

in2herbs

(3,572 posts)
7. That is not true. see below
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 03:28 PM
Feb 1

In certain situations, the ICC has jurisdiction over the US and its citizens even though the US has not joined the Rome Statute. Some of these situations include when a citizen of a non-member country is connected with war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide on the territory of an ICC member country.

DavidDvorkin

(20,079 posts)
9. Interesting!
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 03:39 PM
Feb 1

But we know what would happen if the ICC convicted Trump or any of his minions of anything.

in2herbs

(3,572 posts)
11. I think it is less likely the Trumplicans would negatively react to convictions rendered outside of the US court's
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 03:48 PM
Feb 1

jurisdiction. And that is why I think AG Garland went all the way to The Hague and hired Jack Smith instead of an attorney within the US to be special counsel. I also think, when Garland looked at the stolen documents, he realized F47s crimes went beyond US borders and involved other national and international actors.

Watch what NATO is doing and read foreign news sources. BBC is not foreign news.

Only recently have some countries amended their laws to include cyber crimes and election interference.

sop

(12,978 posts)
8. The Executive branch is the problem. The Legislative branch won't do anything. Our only hope is the Judiciary.
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 03:30 PM
Feb 1

I guess we'll find out if Separation of Powers and that Checks and Balances stuff in the U.S. Constitution is still working. If the courts won't do anything, things look bleak for the country.

DavidDvorkin

(20,079 posts)
10. The Legislative Branch is now completely subordinate to the Executive
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 03:42 PM
Feb 1

That's been true for quite a while when Republicans control both. They love groveling to what they perceive as a strongman.

During Trump's first term, some GOP congressman said, "We serve at the pleasure of the president." I guess he skipped civics class in high school.

Trump is clearly trying to reshape the judicial branch to be subordinate to him as well.

J_William_Ryan

(2,495 posts)
3. "This emphatically does not mean Democrats are doing all they can or that there's nothing they can do."
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 03:14 PM
Feb 1

Actually, it does as a matter of the mechanics of governance.

Otherwise, the article is spot-on: “Voters decided in November to put all federal power in the hands of Republicans. That’s done."

In fact, other than the courts, Democrats’ sole recourse is a battle over public opinion, which at best will realize minimal, marginal success, if any.

ancianita

(39,908 posts)
15. Remember that America is really big.
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 03:43 PM
Feb 2
"... other than the courts, Democrats’ sole recourse is a battle over public opinion, which at best will realize minimal, marginal success, if any."


Thing is, over 70% of the voting electorate (259,454,702 (as of 11/04/24) ) did not vote for Republicans
(iow, 75,017,626 for Harris plus the rest who could vote but didn't).
Note:
many of the current 74,000,000 minors will be of voting age by the midterms and 2028. Which means that if they have time to pay attention to their own lives but not politics, they'll still feel the negative effects of this 4 year period's politics, and during that time they'll start looking to those with answers/solutions for their lives.
We have to make sure the Democrats and the youth in the DNC (David Hogg's demographic) are out there offering what new voters need for hope in the future.

D. Spaulding

(147 posts)
4. Think about this, and despair
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 03:14 PM
Feb 1

The richest person in the world just bought himself into our government and is running rough shod over it. And yet it seems there is less outrage and push back against Trump now, than there was in his first term, which is going to seem positively mild and boring after this one.

intheflow

(29,404 posts)
12. I am not a fan of shadow governments,
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 05:27 PM
Feb 1

but that would be one way to resist. In particular, Democrats on armed forces and national security committees need to recruit sympathetic generals and other high ranking service people. And work out a way to save the Constitution by force if needed.

C0RI0LANUS

(3,015 posts)
13. One fictional, one real solution to the dilemma, but the US may be too late.
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 05:50 PM
Feb 1

Fictional:

A cabal of generals plan a coup against the POTUS. Written by Rod Serling.



Non-fictional:

In 1919, the French secret services established a secret multi-million dollar war chest overseas in case France lost a war and needed to fund a "government-in-exile." Our side probably didn't do this thinking the Kremlin would never win. The US did have a stay-behind-agent (SBA) program for Alaska in case the USSR occupied it, as did some NATO countries under the "Gladio" program.



Source:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/nov/11/france.mainsection

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