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BlueWavePsych

(3,446 posts)
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 06:31 PM Apr 16

Trump Voters Are Over It

Tomas Montoya has sold festival foods—funnel cakes, burgers, hot dogs—across the American Southwest for years. But lately, business has been rough. Costs are up, so he’s increased his prices. Employees are begging for hours he can’t give them. In Arizona, where he lives, Montoya pays $6 a gallon to fill up his food trucks with diesel. This summer, he may have to skip the California leg of his festival route because fuel is even more expensive there.

“It’s Trump,” Montoya told us outside a popular Hispanic grocery store in Casa Grande, Arizona, much of which sits in one of the most evenly divided House districts in the country. Montoya voted for President Trump in 2024, but now, well, frustrated doesn’t begin to cover how he’s feeling. The president is bragging about the economy, even though everyone Montoya knows is hurting; he promised to stop wars, but started one in Iran. “When Trump opens his mouth, three-quarters of what he says is stories, lies,” Montoya said. He’s planning to vote in the midterm elections this fall. But he may not choose a Republican.

You can’t flip a funnel cake in this part of Arizona without spattering someone who sounds just like Montoya—anxious, and a little regretful about how they voted two Novembers ago. These days, a shocking number of the president’s supporters have turned against him. Some of Trump’s fanboys in the libertarian-leaning manosphere have spent the past year baffled by his actions on the Epstein files, immigration, and now Iran. And in the past week, religious conservatives have been criticizing their once-unassailable leader after he posted a photo on social media of himself as Jesus and attacked the pope, calling the first American pontiff “WEAK on Crime.” Some Republican operatives in battleground states told us that they’d rather Trump not campaign too hard for their candidate; others have seen their small-dollar donations plummet.

Midterm elections are typically rough for an incumbent president’s party. But this year threatens to be brutal. Trump’s approval is lower right now than it was at this point ahead of the 2018 midterm elections, when Democrats won back the House in a historic blue wave. Almost every new poll is a red flag for Republicans: Independents, young voters, and Latinos—groups that were crucial to Trump’s win in 2024—aren’t in the bag anymore. Even non-college-educated white Americans, once the president’s strongest group, have turned on him, according to a CNN polling average. Democratic-leaning voters are 17 points more likely than GOP-aligned voters to say they’re “extremely motivated” to vote in November.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/04/trump-pope-leo-iran-gas-prices/686819/

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Trump Voters Are Over It (Original Post) BlueWavePsych Apr 16 OP
Nah. Fuck 'em. Orrex Apr 16 #1
From a recent YouGov survey: Wiz Imp Apr 16 #10
LOL. Sure. Orrex Apr 16 #12
Not every person who voted for Trump is a cultist... Wiz Imp Apr 16 #13
I don't know which post you're replying to, because you clearly didn't read mine Orrex Apr 16 #14
Wow. Just Wow. Wiz Imp Apr 16 #16
A cultist who gets de-programmed is still a cultist. Aristus Apr 16 #22
Excellent post Orrex Apr 24 #32
Oooh! So much fiery bluster! Orrex Apr 24 #31
You don't want to give racists and sexists warm fuzzy feelings!? You monster! ck4829 Apr 25 #43
The only sympathy I have for them is found in the pages of a dictionary. mwmisses4289 Apr 16 #2
I suspect that the next few months are where Trump-publicans are forced to deal Vogon_Glory Apr 16 #3
I agree. The daily drama is wearing on even them. underpants Apr 16 #9
A. People are tired of him and the drama. B. Iran is an obvious disaster C. Simmering , I think, is.... underpants Apr 16 #4
"When Trump opens his mouth, three-quarters of what he says is stories, lies," Montoya said. BlueWaveNeverEnd Apr 16 #5
They're just embarrassed. They'll vote for the same shit with Vance, who might get more votes than trump. LuvLoogie Apr 16 #6
6 times???? Wiz Imp Apr 16 #7
If you count the primaries. LuvLoogie Apr 16 #8
There was effectively no primary in 2020 and not much of one in 2024. Wiz Imp Apr 16 #11
Trust me. The ones who still defend or make excuses for him LuvLoogie Apr 16 #15
If they don't deny voting for him 6 times, then why would they tell a pollster they Wiz Imp Apr 16 #17
Because they're embarrassed about it. LuvLoogie Apr 16 #19
So they proudly admit to voting for him 6 times but are embarrassed to admit they Wiz Imp Apr 16 #20
The ones you personally know are going to vote for Vance LuvLoogie Apr 16 #21
Amen. I don't want their vote at all. A Trump voter's vote is pretty much an injection of manure ck4829 Apr 16 #23
Apparently, you don't realize or understand that if it weren't for the votes of some Trump voters Eve Of Destruction Apr 24 #33
That's really adorable... I would like to see some charts and graphs on this. ck4829 Apr 25 #34
Proof Eve Of Destruction Apr 25 #40
I think I'll hold off on appealing to the racists and sexists who voted for Trump, thanks. ck4829 Apr 25 #42
Ironic that you chose to use insults to make your point. Scrivener7 Apr 25 #35
I'm grateful for it. It tells me I'm doing something right ck4829 Apr 25 #36
To you, though, I'd say that not seeking their approval is fine, but people like you and me have to Scrivener7 Apr 25 #37
It's going to have to be more than a vote. ck4829 Apr 25 #38
OK, but for all of that, we have to wait till after the election. Scrivener7 Apr 25 #39
I've said this before, we can't keep cleaning up messes ck4829 Apr 25 #41
Post removed Post removed Apr 16 #24
Right? They can really help us out too! Scott Alan Swaggerty Apr 16 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Apr 17 #28
can we just say ONE FUCKING TIME WAS TOO FUCKING MANY??? Skittles Apr 17 #29
It ain't just tRump luv2fly Apr 16 #18
He "May not vote for a Republican".. Permanut Apr 16 #26
He will Stuckinthebush Apr 17 #30
with all due respect to Mr. Montoya (NONE), he can go FUCK HIMSELF Skittles Apr 17 #27

Orrex

(67,431 posts)
1. Nah. Fuck 'em.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 06:37 PM
Apr 16

Until they pledge never to vote Republican again, they don't regret shit. They're just tired of justifying their decade-plus worship of a child rapist.

If the election were held again tomorrow, better than 99% of them would still vote for him, even knowing what they know now.


Fuck every last one of them.

Wiz Imp

(10,522 posts)
10. From a recent YouGov survey:
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:15 PM
Apr 16
https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/04/politics/voter-regret-trump-2024

When given a chance to recast their 2024 votes, in fact, just 84% of Trump voters said they would vote for him again — compared to 91% for Harris voters.


That number may be understated, but it is nowhere near 99%.

Orrex

(67,431 posts)
12. LOL. Sure.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:39 PM
Apr 16

I'd be interested to hear what people actually think, as contrasted with how they responded in that poll.

Trump kkkultists are worthless fuckheads, sure, but even those worthless fuckheads are dimly aware that they might be called upon to justify their three votes for the child rapist, if they admit that they still support him. It doesn't seem like a stretch to say that 15% in that small poll could have answered with that in mind.

Put them in a voting booth, and let's see what those 15% do.

Fuck 'em. Even this semi-mythical 15% for getting us into this shituation.

Wiz Imp

(10,522 posts)
13. Not every person who voted for Trump is a cultist...
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:51 PM
Apr 16

Besides, your "logic" is ridiculous. If people don't want to justify why they voted for Trump, then why would they admit to voting for him in the first place.

By your logic, these people have no problem admitting to voting for Trump, but "justifying" that vote is just too much for them to bear. Sure.

Orrex

(67,431 posts)
14. I don't know which post you're replying to, because you clearly didn't read mine
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:56 PM
Apr 16
If people don't want to justify why they voted for Trump, then why would they admit to voting for him in the first place.
One can only infer from this that you haven't actually met or spoken with any Trump voters. What else can explain a question so directly at odds with reality?

And, yes, every Trump voter is a kkkultist. They took a good look at the rapist, felon, and lifelong criminal who shits on the military and who mocks the disabled, and they say "Yes, that's the leader we need." Three times.

Fuck them. And fuck any attempt to sanitize their fuckheaded kkkult bullshit.

Wiz Imp

(10,522 posts)
16. Wow. Just Wow.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 08:47 PM
Apr 16

So sure of yourself and so wrong. I personally know numerous people who voted for Trump who are not MAGA cultists as evidenced by the fact that they hate the guy now. They freely admit they made a huge mistake. There's a hell of a lot more of those people than you will allow yourself to admit. For some reason, it apparently makes you feel better to believe that no Trump voters ever have or ever will change their mind. So fine, you go on believing that. (The Blue Tsunami coming in November will prove you wrong, though I'm sure even then you won't admit it.)

Aristus

(72,610 posts)
22. A cultist who gets de-programmed is still a cultist.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:56 PM
Apr 16

They still willingly placed their brains in someone else’s hands, and said “Here. Do my thinking for me. I’ll obey your every wish.”

I’d bet a month’s salary that these ham hocks will still vote R in the next election. People who have never been accustomed to thinking aren’t suddenly going to start now.

Orrex

(67,431 posts)
32. Excellent post
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 09:12 PM
Apr 24

They're oh-so-remorseful, but when push comes to shove, they'll still find it within their shrunken, desiccated hearts to vote Republican again and again and again, despite the pollyanna fantasies of their truebelievers.

Orrex

(67,431 posts)
31. Oooh! So much fiery bluster!
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 09:11 PM
Apr 24

I have a decades-long history of admitting when I'm wrong, so your petty insults mean nothing to me.

I'm glad to hear that you've convinced yourself that your anecdotal sampling is representative of the larger whole, but regardless of how your "numerous people" feel about Trump, until they pledge never again to vote Republican, they're still fuckhead KKKultists, and I encourage you to tell them that I said so.

ck4829

(38,113 posts)
43. You don't want to give racists and sexists warm fuzzy feelings!? You monster!
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 05:25 PM
Apr 25

This is by the way, but I'm sure Orrex already knows that.

But the below isn't...

"They hate the guy now", whatever.



Their vote is not enough.

* How many immigrants have they apologized to for believing lies about them?
* How many mosques have they visited?
* Are they donating to the ACLU, SPLC, People for the American Way, etc.?
* Have they turned off Fox News and other right-wing outlets?
* Can they say "Protect your mental health, turn off conservative media"?
* Are they having a change of heart in conversations, and now showing hostility to the administration and conservative media... no, just them being silent now is not acceptable.

Vogon_Glory

(10,393 posts)
3. I suspect that the next few months are where Trump-publicans are forced to deal
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 06:45 PM
Apr 16

with reality. Cognitive dissonance can only go so far to maintain the illusions that kept the Trump movement going. The high is ending, the bills are coming due, and the train-wreck is spilling not just over the rails but also all over the right-of-way and well onto either side.

I find myself wondering if I have any compassion for the people who deluded themselves into voting for Trump in 2024 or told themselves that staying home and not voting Democratic wouldn’t have any negative consequences. Right now I don’t: they brought this on themselves as well as on the rest of us. I think they need to go through the painful consequences. The burned hand teaches best.

underpants

(197,344 posts)
9. I agree. The daily drama is wearing on even them.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:14 PM
Apr 16

See my post below.

He craves the attention more than the grift and power. His best hope is that everyone takes a Trump vacation through the summer. Actual vacation, World Cup and Olympics (aren’t his people’s thing at all), baseball, USA 250, anything that takes attention off himself.

underpants

(197,344 posts)
4. A. People are tired of him and the drama. B. Iran is an obvious disaster C. Simmering , I think, is....
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 06:49 PM
Apr 16

destruction of the East Wing. I think that hit everyone with some level of shock. He destroyed 1/3 of the White House. Even if they don’t follow the news ( anywhere like we do ) and don’t see the private donations as bribes, the idea of a ballroom A BALLROOM isn’t just not Americana farmer purple mountains majesty stuff. I really think that’s sticking to people.

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(15,097 posts)
5. "When Trump opens his mouth, three-quarters of what he says is stories, lies," Montoya said.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 06:52 PM
Apr 16

"Three quarters"??? 95%!!!

LuvLoogie

(8,949 posts)
6. They're just embarrassed. They'll vote for the same shit with Vance, who might get more votes than trump.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 06:54 PM
Apr 16

They voted for this shit 6 times. They aren't over it. They just need a bigger fix of nihilist bigotry with more concentration camps and disappearings to soothe their consciouses.

Wiz Imp

(10,522 posts)
11. There was effectively no primary in 2020 and not much of one in 2024.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:24 PM
Apr 16

Over 30 million people voted in the Republican primary in 2016, compared to less than 19 million in 2020 and 21 million in 2024.

LuvLoogie

(8,949 posts)
15. Trust me. The ones who still defend or make excuses for him
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 08:02 PM
Apr 16

Last edited Thu Apr 16, 2026, 08:58 PM - Edit history (1)

are six-timers. They never deny it when I call them that.

Wiz Imp

(10,522 posts)
17. If they don't deny voting for him 6 times, then why would they tell a pollster they
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 08:51 PM
Apr 16

would never vote for him again if they still support him?

LuvLoogie

(8,949 posts)
19. Because they're embarrassed about it.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:08 PM
Apr 16

They're fucking up relationships. But they would still vote for him because he mirrors their bigotries and grievances. The national security, economy, no wars thong was just cover for their true motivations. As long as he shits on the other, their cool. They just don't like having to defend him in public.

Does this guy say he'll vote for a Democrat? No. Because he has the same world view. He's just looking for a new quarterback to drive the same bigotries to policy. He has no problem with the advertised targets of trump's policies. Just what it costs for gas. He still has shitty motives where his fellow citizens are concerned. That is true of EVERY trump voter. No matter how many flags and bibles they wave.

Wiz Imp

(10,522 posts)
20. So they proudly admit to voting for him 6 times but are embarrassed to admit they
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:16 PM
Apr 16

would vote for him a 7th? Sorry, but that is complete nonsense. And sorry, there are legitimately hundreds of thousands (probably millions) of Trump voters who absolutely would never vote for him again. I personally know a bunch.

LuvLoogie

(8,949 posts)
21. The ones you personally know are going to vote for Vance
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:40 PM
Apr 16

Who freely defends his lies about immigrants in order to promote trump's agenda.

The ones you know personally are still cool with the cuts to healthcare. They were good with DOGE. They out there protesting the kidnappings of immigrants the incarcerations?

Voting for trump in 2024 was not a vote for good governance. It was a malicious act.

ck4829

(38,113 posts)
23. Amen. I don't want their vote at all. A Trump voter's vote is pretty much an injection of manure
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:57 PM
Apr 16

No thanks. Repentant Trump voters: don't vote at all, you've caused enough damage. Whoever you vote for, I know that's going to be the worst person.

33. Apparently, you don't realize or understand that if it weren't for the votes of some Trump voters
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 10:36 PM
Apr 24

Democrats would have at least 3 fewer Senators. Given that Trump won Arizona, Nevada and Michigan , the only way Democrats won the Senate races in those states was some Trump voters voted for the Democrat. Unlike you, I'm extremely thankful for those Trump voters, because without them, Democrats would be in much worrse shape in the Senate now, and have virtualy zero chance of winning the Senate in November.

I want as many Trump voters as possible to vote for Democrats in November. The more Trump voters we get, the more seats we win. I would think most people would view that as a priority. Instead, I see childish posts like this who care more about expressing their hatred of Trump than actually winning elections and being able to do something about him.

ck4829

(38,113 posts)
34. That's really adorable... I would like to see some charts and graphs on this.
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 07:59 AM
Apr 25

It could have easily been people who didn't vote for president at all and just voted for everyone else on the ballot instead.

The Trump voter has shown how racist, sexist, gullible, bigoted, xenophobic, and sadistic they are when they stepped into the voting booth. If they suddenly approved of me as a person, it would make me realize I was doing something very, very wrong.

If it makes me a horrible person for not seeking their approval, then I guess I'm going to have to be a horrible person.

ck4829

(38,113 posts)
42. I think I'll hold off on appealing to the racists and sexists who voted for Trump, thanks.
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 04:57 PM
Apr 25

"such voting behavior was not enough to save Democratic incumbents in Ohio and Pennsylvania and defeat a Republican incumbent in Texas"

They're not even all that great of a voting group if they couldn't save Sherrod Brown.

They may not like Trump because they wanted to be racist again and not poor too, so whatever option they do select, they do like, it tells me it is the worst possible choice.

Scrivener7

(60,118 posts)
37. To you, though, I'd say that not seeking their approval is fine, but people like you and me have to
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 08:23 AM
Apr 25

not shoot ourselves in the foot. If I come upon a maga who is expressing a change of heart, though I want to throttle them, I'll hold my tongue and smile and nod.

ck4829

(38,113 posts)
38. It's going to have to be more than a vote.
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 08:29 AM
Apr 25

I need to know how many immigrants they apologized to, how many mosques they have visited, are there still claims of Haitians eating cats and dogs on their social media, have they donated to the ACLU, or People for the American Way, the Southern Poverty Law Center, Institute for Social Policy and Understanding, etc., do they still joke about Kamala Harris or are they sorry for that. That will show me a genuine change of heart and they can earn a little bit of my respect.

The poster(s) above have not made that clear at all. It's just "Trump voters who absolutely would never vote for him again", well A, they shouldn't because he can't run again and B, it needs to be more than that to show a change of heart I think.

Scrivener7

(60,118 posts)
39. OK, but for all of that, we have to wait till after the election.
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 08:41 AM
Apr 25

Until then, we just need their votes.

We are going to need every vote we can get if we are going to clean up this mess. We always have to clean up their messes, but this is the biggest one yet.

ck4829

(38,113 posts)
41. I've said this before, we can't keep cleaning up messes
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 04:47 PM
Apr 25

People are going to turn 18 and register to vote, do they really want to be the party locked into the cycle of cleaning up messes?

There's got to be some sort of lasting discrediting consequence for this... not just status quo.

Response to LuvLoogie (Reply #21)

25. Right? They can really help us out too!
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 10:43 PM
Apr 16

These people you know can form a group called "I'm a dumb piece of shit who saw a felon that brought our country to its knees in 2020 and still willingly voted for him in 2024 and here are our ideas and thoughts on OTHER things" so we would already know what things to support based on what they don't like.

Response to Wiz Imp (Reply #11)

luv2fly

(2,724 posts)
18. It ain't just tRump
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:02 PM
Apr 16

It's all the tRump ass kissers they have to shun. Problem is, while they might be over him, when it's an R and a D on the ballot, they will still vote for the R.

F*ck 'em all.

Stuckinthebush

(11,221 posts)
30. He will
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 11:03 AM
Apr 17

Because the republicans will gin up fear and say, "I'm not like Trump - I'll get things done and remove all the scary things from your life!" Then they will vote R because they just can't vote for those evil Dems.

Rinse. Repeat.

Skittles

(173,095 posts)
27. with all due respect to Mr. Montoya (NONE), he can go FUCK HIMSELF
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:38 AM
Apr 17

FUCK EVERY FUCKING ASSHOLE WHO DISGRACED AMERICA BY VOTING FOR THAT FASCIST POS, FUCK THEM ALL

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