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Rhiannon12866

(222,250 posts)
Sat Sep 23, 2023, 05:31 PM Sep 2023

Fmr. GOP Rep says McCarthy should tell Freedom Caucus 'where to stick it' - Velshi - MSNBC



Fmr. Gov. Mark Sanford and Fmr. Rep. Charlie Dent join Ali Velshi to discuss the looming government shutdown and what Speaker Kevin McCarthy should do to avert it, including working with Democrats despite the consequences for his speakership.

“They could pass a CR in five minutes if they wanted to,” Dent tells Velshi. “But they have to be willing to stand up to that fringe and tell them where to stick it. And they should stick it to them right now.” - Aired on 09/23/2023.



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Fmr. GOP Rep says McCarthy should tell Freedom Caucus 'where to stick it' - Velshi - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Sep 2023 OP
Why not? There won't be a budget next Friday anyway, anyhow. no_hypocrisy Sep 2023 #1
We've also heard that the order for a shutdown came from TFG, hoping it will reflect badly on Biden Rhiannon12866 Sep 2023 #2
I've wanted stuff too in the past, but not enough to sell my soul and integrity for it. no_hypocrisy Sep 2023 #3
As was said in the interview, he wants his portrait on the wall Rhiannon12866 Sep 2023 #4
It seems so Shakespearean or Homeric. no_hypocrisy Sep 2023 #5
He should, but he's too chickenshit Warpy Sep 2023 #6
Exactly, well said. Rhiannon12866 Sep 2023 #8
He already HAS told them where to stick it. LuvLoogie Sep 2023 #7

no_hypocrisy

(48,813 posts)
1. Why not? There won't be a budget next Friday anyway, anyhow.
Sat Sep 23, 2023, 05:42 PM
Sep 2023

Having McCarthy do it on camera would make him a nominee for the annual Profiles in Courage Award.

Tear up that Faustian Contract Kevin! (And I don't mean Anthony Fauci, Marge!)

Rhiannon12866

(222,250 posts)
2. We've also heard that the order for a shutdown came from TFG, hoping it will reflect badly on Biden
Sat Sep 23, 2023, 05:47 PM
Sep 2023

And I wouldn't put anything past him - or from McCarthy for following his orders.

no_hypocrisy

(48,813 posts)
3. I've wanted stuff too in the past, but not enough to sell my soul and integrity for it.
Sat Sep 23, 2023, 05:53 PM
Sep 2023

McCarthy needs to free himself. He's had 18+ months as SOTH. Go home. Retire. Write a book. Get a job on CNN.

Rhiannon12866

(222,250 posts)
4. As was said in the interview, he wants his portrait on the wall
Sat Sep 23, 2023, 05:58 PM
Sep 2023

And he was persuaded to do TFG's bidding - which puts him in conflict even with his own members.

Warpy

(113,130 posts)
6. He should, but he's too chickenshit
Sat Sep 23, 2023, 06:30 PM
Sep 2023

He needed their votes to becoem Speaker and is terrified to cross them by refusing to deliver on their harebrained demands.

A strong leader would just stare them down and say "I lied." McCarthy is not a strong leader, he's a jellyfish who sacrificed his entire spine to get a title. Now he has no idea what to do with it.

Rhiannon12866

(222,250 posts)
8. Exactly, well said.
Sat Sep 23, 2023, 07:53 PM
Sep 2023

He's out of his depth, stuck between Congressional demands and what's good for the American people - and his allegiance and demands from TFG and the MAGAts in Congress. He's said there will be no shutdown but has done nothing to prevent it.

LuvLoogie

(7,545 posts)
7. He already HAS told them where to stick it.
Sat Sep 23, 2023, 07:45 PM
Sep 2023

He even dropped his pants and grabbed the counter.
"Here. Here! Take my gavel..."

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