Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Fresh Water Falling

(237 posts)
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 05:39 AM Oct 2023

Israel & The Myth of 'Self Defence'



For the record, I do believe Israel has a right to defend itself. But, far too often, Jerusalem's response to incidents of violence has been vastly disproportionate. In this particular case, Israel is justified in taking strong retaliatory action. Against Hamas. Not innocent civilians!
4 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Israel & The Myth of 'Self Defence' (Original Post) Fresh Water Falling Oct 2023 OP
Hamas uses their own people as human shield while they hide safely in underground bunkers. nycbos Oct 2023 #1
How is what the OP said antisemitism? USAFRetired_Liberal Oct 2023 #2
Indeed. nycbos Oct 2023 #3
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2023 #4

nycbos

(6,365 posts)
1. Hamas uses their own people as human shield while they hide safely in underground bunkers.
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 07:20 AM
Oct 2023

Hamas not only doesn't Israel's right to exist they call for the killing of all Jews. They attacked on one of the holiest days in Judaism murdering Jews for kidnapping people and shouting "God is great"



Every day coming here since the terrorist attack, I am reminded of the horseshoe nature of the political spectrum. Antisemitism is a cause that unites the far right on the far left.

nycbos

(6,365 posts)
3. Indeed.
Sun Oct 15, 2023, 07:52 AM
Oct 2023

I am Jewish and I am often VERY critical of Israel. One of the reasons why I hate Hamas so much is because they make me sound like I am pro-Bibi and I hate the SOB with a passion. The OP said Israel is "targeting civilians" This ignores the fact that Hamas uses civilian areas to launch its attacks. Any nation that has terrorists shooting rockets at them has a right to respond. Hamas arranged a situation where Israel can't protect its citizens, without sadly having innocent civilians as collateral damage. while the leadership hides safely underground.

The original poster was saying Israel is intentionally targeting innocent civilians. However, I will modify my statement to allow for the possibility to say he or she might be speaking out of ignorance because they are unaware of how Hamas operates.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Video & Multimedia»Israel & The Myth of 'Sel...