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Upthevibe

(8,754 posts)
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:26 PM Jul 24

My best friend's 17 year old

son died by suicide on 1/2/21. He was adopted when he was six months old from Napal.

My friend met her life partner (then later her wife) when he (I'll just use the name Logan) was 18 months old. They were the BEST parents I've ever seen.

They have been absolutely extraordinary in their handling of this horrific situation. I've been with them to many, many of the support group gatherings, walks, conferences, YouTube zooms, and other activities.

I'm now house sitting for them while they're on a vacation they've been planning a long time (out of the country). There are pictures of Logan all over because...... of course there would be. My problem....When I walk into the kitchen there's a bigger than average picture of him cooking. I feel like a knife cuts through my heart when I see it.

His G.P.A. was 4.6 and he wasn't sure what he wanted to do but being a chef was on his list. This happened during his Junior year of high school and in the middle of COVID. There were NO red flags...No drugs, alcohol, etc. We feel it must have been a depression no one knew he even had. Also, he was really sick of his classes on Zoom.

When I see the pictures of him, I wish I could think of the happy times but I just feel intense sadness. I think I'll turn the one picture over.......the one in the kitchen. I just need to remember to turn it back before they get home..

I'm wondering if there will come a time when I can look at his photos and not feel sad....

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My best friend's 17 year old (Original Post) Upthevibe Jul 24 OP
I totally understand. 1978, my younger brother (and only sibling) died during... 3catwoman3 Jul 24 #1
3catwoman3..... Upthevibe Jul 24 #3
You are right that we never get "over" a life changing experience like this. 3catwoman3 Jul 24 #4
3catwoman3....... Upthevibe Jul 24 #9
I'm.... JoeOtterbein Jul 24 #2
JoeOtterbein ........ Upthevibe Jul 24 #10
Teens had a difficult time with the covid isolation. Irish_Dem Jul 24 #5
Irish_Dem........... Upthevibe Jul 24 #11
I have friends who work adolescent psych inpatient and day treatment. Irish_Dem Jul 24 #16
Yes turn the picture over if it is too intense for you right now. Irish_Dem Jul 24 #17
I wish there were magic words. LoisB Jul 24 #6
LoisB.......... Upthevibe Jul 24 #12
That's so sad. Emile Jul 24 #7
Emile...... Upthevibe Jul 24 #13
i hate that word closure . AllaN01Bear Jul 24 #8
AllaN01Bear ............ Upthevibe Jul 24 #14
Grieving is never wrapped up in a neat bow. Irish_Dem Jul 24 #18
Irish_Dem........ Upthevibe Jul 25 #20
Sad Story ProfessorGAC Jul 24 #15
ProfessorGAC Upthevibe Jul 25 #21
Very Sad. Stuart G Jul 24 #19
Stuart G Upthevibe Jul 25 #22
"I'm wondering if there will come a time when I can look at his photos and not feel sad.." soldierant Jul 25 #23
soldierant.. Upthevibe Jul 25 #24

3catwoman3

(24,935 posts)
1. I totally understand. 1978, my younger brother (and only sibling) died during...
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 03:38 PM
Jul 24

...a scuba diving adventure gone awry. He was only 23.

He was studying photography at the time. For many, many years, I could look at pictures taken by him, but not at pictures of him. Eventually, I did put out one photo of the 2 of us, taken in Trafalgar Square while we were feeding the pigeons. It's still difficult to look at that picture, and pretty much all of the family photos that show him.

Wishing you and your friends strength and serenity.

Upthevibe

(8,754 posts)
3. 3catwoman3.....
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:14 PM
Jul 24

I'm so sorry to hear about your only sibling. .

I don't think we get "over" these things or even get "through" them (IMHO). But time does help. I lost my beloved father in a car wreck when I was 12 ( 54 years ago) and I truly feel happy and loving thoughts. His pictures don't make me cry....

3catwoman3

(24,935 posts)
4. You are right that we never get "over" a life changing experience like this.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:25 PM
Jul 24

The sharp edges of the initial agony soften, but the awareness is always there, to varying degrees.

An odd question. My brother has been gone so long, altho not as long as your dad, that I sometimes feel as if I imagined him. Both parents are now gone, as well, so there is no one with whom I can look back at my childhood or early adulthood with and have any of those, "Remember when we..." conversations. Do you ever feel that way?

Upthevibe

(8,754 posts)
9. 3catwoman3.......
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 06:24 PM
Jul 24

I'm so sorry that you don't have others' to share memories with. That's got to be really hard....

I'm very fortunate that I have one sibling left (the other two have passed) and she and I still talk about our Dad, the wonder that he was, and how lucky we were to have had him while we did.

She's eight years older than I so our memories are different. We remember our parents were against the Vietnam War and very progressive. My brother was 10 years older than I and was draft age. My parents along with my brother figured out the best way for him not to get drafted (he was a full-time college student and was in the Army Reserves - which for some reason prevented him from getting drafted at the time).

He was the kind of dad you see on T.V. shows and don't believe they actually exist. He wasn't a lawyer but I think of him as an Atticus Finch....

Irish_Dem

(55,272 posts)
5. Teens had a difficult time with the covid isolation.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 04:27 PM
Jul 24

Staff in mental health treatment centers are dealing with the fallout every day.

Irish_Dem

(55,272 posts)
16. I have friends who work adolescent psych inpatient and day treatment.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 09:10 PM
Jul 24

People do not realize how much the pandemic did to the teen population.
They were hit the hardest. The isolation, learning problems with computer education,
lack of social interaction, boredom, family dynamics magnified, etc etc.

Friends are saying it is going to take some time for the kids to get back on track.

Upthevibe

(8,754 posts)
12. LoisB..........
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 06:31 PM
Jul 24

Me too.

We've met some of the most beautiful people who are suicide survivors as well. As they say, it's a club one doesn't want and never planned to join...

AllaN01Bear

(22,149 posts)
8. i hate that word closure .
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 05:24 PM
Jul 24

how can you close on someone u love . grrr.
i lost my mom in 2003 and i miss her still. gah.
fir thee.

Irish_Dem

(55,272 posts)
18. Grieving is never wrapped up in a neat bow.
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 09:15 PM
Jul 24

People may think that, but we know it is not true.

We may come to some acceptance and peace, but something will happen and
there is a return to the grieving process/ feelings.

We revisit our loss at various times in our lives.

ProfessorGAC

(68,109 posts)
15. Sad Story
Wed Jul 24, 2024, 08:47 PM
Jul 24

I can understand why you have difficulty.
Our neighbor's son did that at around 28 years old. His mom (our neighbor) never really got over it.
Hang in there.

Upthevibe

(8,754 posts)
21. ProfessorGAC
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 09:24 AM
Jul 25

I'm sorry to hear about your neighbor's son. Suicide is so tragically layered. I've learned more about it than I could ever have imagined - so have they.

Upthevibe

(8,754 posts)
22. Stuart G
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 09:29 AM
Jul 25


I ended up putting a really large roll of paper towels in front of the big photo so I don't see it every time I walk into the kitchen. It's REALLY helping....

soldierant

(7,613 posts)
23. "I'm wondering if there will come a time when I can look at his photos and not feel sad.."
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 03:24 PM
Jul 25

Quote from a guy named Joe Biden:

"I promise you, the time will come that what's going to happen is six months will go by and everybody is going to think, well, it's passed. But you are going to ride by that field or smell that fragrance or see that flashing image. You are going to feel like you did the day you got the news. But you know you are going to make it. The image of your dad, your husband, your friend. It crosses your mind and a smile comes to your lips before a tear to your eye. That's how you know. I promise you, I give you my word, I promise you, this I know. The day will come. That day will come."

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