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LPBBEAR

(626 posts)
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 05:45 AM Feb 2025

Playing with AI

Lately I've been exploring using AI to create AI versions of political cartoons. This time around I though I would try using it to recreate a fond memory of a friend from High School. The result isn't a perfect match for my memory but it got the basic elements of the scene right and the hair color is spot on.

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LPBBEAR

(626 posts)
2. This one
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 10:33 AM
Feb 2025

doesn't look exactly like the friend from my memory. The real friend was a stunning beauty too though. She used to wear a black fur coat like that also. The hair is perfect though. Exactly the right color, length, and cut. The scene is meant to be a local park where we kids from the High School hung out after school.

highplainsdem

(59,647 posts)
3. Generative AI models aren't playthings. They're illegally trained on stolen intellectual property, and
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 02:07 PM
Feb 2025

that's the only reason they work.

And unless the political cartoons you're using those tools to create AI versions of are cartoons YOU did, you're ripping off those cartoonists. Please don't. Please respect their work, and the work of all the artists and other creators whose work was stolen to train AI, and don't use generative AI.

If you want to do something creative in terms of a political cartoon, all you need is pencil or pen and paper, or an art app.

LPBBEAR

(626 posts)
4. Nope
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 02:32 PM
Feb 2025

I will continue to use any available tool I can to ridicule the Trump regime.

"If you want to do something creative in terms of a political cartoon, all you need is pencil or pen and paper, or an art app."

You forgot talent. I can dream up political cartoons but when it comes to actually drawing them.....well I may create one worth looking at sometime next decade.

I'll keep doing what I'm doing until Trump goes to prison. Then we can talk about regulating AI.

highplainsdem

(59,647 posts)
5. Your using AI on someone else's cartoons in no way helps their messaging or hurts Trump more. Just
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 02:46 PM
Feb 2025

help their messages - the actual cartoons - to go viral by posting them, and give them the credit they deserve. Using AI to rip off their work takes attention from them for yourself.

It's unethical, and it's pointless, except to show off your use of AI.

You wouldn't think it was OK to steal or borrow someone's car to get to a rally to protest Trump.

highplainsdem

(59,647 posts)
10. Stealing cartoonists' work to generate something with AI does nothing to help us against Trump.
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 09:23 PM
Feb 2025

Maybe you think your use of AI somehow makes their message more effective - I can't imagine why you'd be doing it otherwise - but I doubt they'd agree.

Especially since your believing that indicates some degree of contempt/condescension toward their cartoons. Their work you're misappropriating.

It's THEIR WORK. Not yours to play with.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
12. Is it really stealing intellectual property?
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 09:49 PM
Feb 2025

If I learn how to play the piano by learning Beatles songs and then I go on to create my own music, did I really steal from the Beatles? If I used their music directly, then yes, but if I train myself using their music, is that stealing?

If I watch old movies and create new movies using themes from the old movies, am I stealing?

highplainsdem

(59,647 posts)
11. They're not "your" attempts. You gave a short prompt to an AI trained on countless stolen images,
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 09:34 PM
Feb 2025

got a selection of options to choose from in seconds - options you had next to nothing to do with; it's quite possible those two options resulted from the same prompt - and posted them to add to the AI slop flooding the internet.

highplainsdem

(59,647 posts)
14. You know, the artists whose work was stolen to train AI are fighting for their existence, and for art to
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 09:55 PM
Feb 2025

be valued. I've met some in such despair over what the AI companies have done that they're nearly suicidal.

Using genAI to amuse yourself is in a way like trampling all over those artists.

It doesn't make you an artist. It can't.

Real artists would like there to be more real artists. They're usually generous with advice, as helpful as possible. They want people to experience real creativity and acquire real skills, not have an AI trained on the world's stolen art spit something out for them.

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