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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsGuess what movie I am thinking of based on my super vague 3 point assessment of it
1. Decently talented cast
2. Absolutely atrocious screenwriting and character development
3. Phenomenal cinematography
Winner gets 10 bucks or a Toyota
nocoincidences
(2,491 posts)Totally wild guess!
Could also be Dune
Tommy Carcetti
(44,566 posts)displacedvermoter
(4,763 posts)Tommy Carcetti
(44,566 posts)jmowreader
(53,283 posts)Some of the movie was shot in Wallace, Idaho. A lot of small towns that have movies shot in them will brag about this. Wallace has completely disowned the movie. There's no "Heaven's Gate Museum" up there, but there sure is a brothel museum.
John Hurt, who has an important role in Heaven's Gate, got so tired of Cimino's screwing around he flew to London, starred in The Elephant Man and flew back to finish Heaven's Gate without anyone noticing.
When he finally showed his 5 hour 25 minute workprint to United Artists' executives he told them the workprint was about 15 minutes longer than the release print would be. They told him it was at least two hours longer than the release print would be.
displacedvermoter
(4,763 posts)I bet the brothel museum in Idaho would be cooler.
jmowreader
(53,283 posts)Wallace is an old-time mining community. The four biggest mines in the Silver Valley are the Lucky Friday, the Galena, the Sunshine and the Bunker Hill. Of the four, only the Bunker Hill Mine, which is in Kellogg, is not close enough to Wallace that you'd live in Wallace if you worked there. Lucky Friday is east of Wallace in Mullan, and the other two are west of Wallace. Before the Hunt Brothers tried cornering the silver market, Wallace was a busy place. (Wallace is also the reason the Idaho High School Activities Association banned high school sports recruiting in the public schools...the mine companies would scout other schools' athletic teams for quality players, and if they found one they'd make their family an offer they can't refuse - we'll buy your house at fair market value, sell you one in Wallace at a good price and give the father a job that pays twice what the one you now have (not out of line - Idaho mines have paid really well for a long time) if you enroll your children in the Wallace school system. Now it's only the religious schools that can do that.)
Where mining goes prostitution is soon to follow. The city tried to get rid of it a lot of times, only to see the houses turned into "rooms." You know, supposedly hotels but you couldn't stay there long. There were five of these businesses before Reagan became president, and one of the things he did that few talk about was send the US Marshals to Wallace to raid the houses.
The one that's now a museum was the Oasis Rooms. Apparently this was the house you wanted to work at because the proprietor paid really well (most houses did a 50-50 split between the woman and the proprietor; the Oasis gave 60 percent to the woman) and protected them against bad actors. When the Marshals kicked in the door, the women working there fled out the back door without any of their stuff. You go in there and, except for the perishables in the grocery sacks they abandoned, everything is just as it was the morning of the raid. All their clothes are where they were, their dressing tables are still laid out, anything you'd need if you were in that line of work is ready for you to get right back to it. In St. Maries we used to joke that their sports teams were so hard to beat because all the sex they got at the houses bulked the players up.
displacedvermoter
(4,763 posts)Dave Bowman
(7,304 posts)Tommy Carcetti
(44,566 posts)jls4561
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(44,566 posts)3catwoman3
(29,588 posts)Wicked.
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(44,566 posts)dgauss
(1,560 posts)Tommy Carcetti
(44,566 posts)dgauss
(1,560 posts)red dog 1
(33,269 posts)Perhaps about one of the actors?
Tommy Carcetti
(44,566 posts)One that is pretty much synonymous in its identity with the movie.
Yes, thats still vague but at least its one more clue.
hlthe2b
(114,201 posts)John Barry), but I guess some might criticize the screenwriting and character development.
It is a favorite film for me for all the positive features, but that might be the film you reference.
BTW, if it is a old movie, you should give the time period of release.
Tommy Carcetti
(44,566 posts)Although I actually did like Dances with Wolves myself.
I guess some people now might criticize it for being a little too White Savior complex, but still an overall good movie.
Anyways the movie Im describing the lead actors are still alive and not eligible for Social Security yet.
oasis
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(44,566 posts)pamela
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(44,566 posts)lastlib
(28,403 posts)could it?
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(44,566 posts)Midnight Writer
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(44,566 posts)hedda_foil
(16,996 posts)I watched about half an hour of it this year and was gobsmacked by how utterly terrible the bogusly biblical dialog was and how little the perfectly decent cast could do with it in terms of character development. But the cinematography was fantastic.
dweller
(28,506 posts)✌🏻
Tommy Carcetti
(44,566 posts)dgauss
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(44,566 posts)applegrove
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(44,566 posts)dgauss
(1,560 posts)Likely to hit all three criteria.
Jupiter Rising,
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(67,232 posts)Dave Bowman
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(44,566 posts)MIButterfly
(2,892 posts)betsuni
(29,154 posts)Tommy Carcetti
(44,566 posts)A nice pat on the head is yours.
ProfessorGAC
(76,979 posts)That movie is dreadful!
My wife & I walked out of the theater because we couldn't stop laughing at the treacly script, the egregious overacting, etc.
We knew we were making other patrons mad, so we just left.
We gave it another shot when it came on HBO.
We were right the first time.
Tommy Carcetti
(44,566 posts)When you see Rose getting lowered into the lifeboat while looking up at Jack as flares go off in the background, or when you see Rose looking at the Statue of Liberty after being rescued, it's just aesthetically great to look at.
But good lord, they must have blown all their budget on special effects and camera work because the dialogue is just so forced and wooden, and not even DiCaprio, Winslet, Bates or multiple other skilled actors can save it (unlike, say, Forrest Gump where I think skilled acting did manage to effectively save an otherwise underwhelming script.)
And Billy Zane's Cal has to be one of the most preposterously one-dimensional characters in modern cinema. He might as well have just had a moustache to twirl throughout the movie.
But because it's always on HBO, my wife and I have actually found a good use for the movie. When we go to channel guide and see that it's on HBO, we play this game where we try to pinpoint exactly where in the story the movie is based on how far the guide says is left in the movie. If we're good, we'll get it down to the exact scene.
ProfessorGAC
(76,979 posts)I feel the movie has no redeeming qualities, despite it's massive box office success.
Doodley
(11,988 posts)ProfessorGAC
(76,979 posts)About 40 minutes in. We knew that others near us were getting annoyed by our derisive laughter, which became increasingly uncontrollable.
To this day, I can't believe what a piece of garbage that was.
Doodley
(11,988 posts)ProfessorGAC
(76,979 posts)Treacly, overly long, Romeo & Juliet on a boat.
Wholly uninteresting.
Doodley
(11,988 posts)betsuni
(29,154 posts)Last edited Thu Apr 16, 2026, 01:02 PM - Edit history (1)
Tommy Carcetti
(44,566 posts)The ten bucks or Toyota is yours!
MIButterfly
(2,892 posts)I was thinking maybe Titanic but the "memorable earworm in the soundtrack" really sealed the deal!
What fun! Thank you, Tommy Carcetti!
StoolPigeon
(266 posts)Tommy Carcetti
(44,566 posts)Doodley
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(44,566 posts)displacedvermoter
(4,763 posts)I believe everyone deserves a participation prize.
Tommy Carcetti
(44,566 posts)You all win a french fry.
displacedvermoter
(4,763 posts)marked50
(1,590 posts)Tommy Carcetti
(44,566 posts)Spoiler alert: The answer to that will also be Titanic.
Harker
(17,915 posts)I could use ten bucks.
miyazaki
(2,663 posts)and wouldn't shut up. I got a free pass to come back.
As for the cinematography, it's fake and doesn't count in my book. Though it can look pretty cool.
boonecreek
(1,545 posts)Tommy Carcetti
(44,566 posts)Does that make me a bad person?
Maybe.
NNadir
(38,264 posts)JT45242
(4,066 posts)Added the alternative name I saw from a critic