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DFW

(60,840 posts)
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 06:18 AM Jun 5

Ummm, well, crap!

Last edited Fri Jun 5, 2026, 02:08 PM - Edit history (3)

I had a rare call with my best friend and immediate superior in Texas two days ago, and asked if things were going well "back there." He said, yeah, great, "it's a pretty good time to be us (present company included)." Well, I know for how many people that is NOT the case, so that put me in a good mood until I got a call from my cardiologist, and he said a routine 24-hour EKG showed up some serious extra heartbeats, and I needed to schedule an angiogram, possibly get an additional stent, or more serious intervention to correct the problem. He said it shouldn't be anything overly drastic, but the extra beats would continue weakening the heart muscle the longer I let it go untreated. I never let things like this drag on. In Germany, a cardiologist has no financial incentive to send me to a cardiac clinic to get procedures done, so I take such diagnoses seriously.

I don't mean to involve the DU board in my own little medical battles, but there are a few people that could conceivably ask what became of me if I should drop off the radar suddenly, and I don't want them badgering my wife about it. If I can get this done soon, and it goes well, I shouldn't be gone long anyway. If something goes wrong and I'm gone longer than expected, at least you will all know why. It will NOT be due to my disgust at some post or seeing some idiot primary result that I think shouldn't have happened, or whatever. Shit happens. If it should turn out NOT to happen to me this time, well, you'll hear no complaints from my end!

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Ummm, well, crap! (Original Post) DFW Jun 5 OP
I do follow the medical literature--including European journals and so my assessment of hlthe2b Jun 5 #1
Wishing you well. mwmisses4289 Jun 5 #2
Best of luck, DFW. piddyprints Jun 5 #3
All the best to you, DFW. We love you. Stay encouraged. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Jun 5 #4
Thanks for that !! DFW Jun 7 #65
Keeping you in my thoughts & prayers. KS Toronado Jun 5 #5
Hugs iluvtennis Jun 5 #6
Sending positive vibes your way, DFW Niagara Jun 5 #7
Healing vibes on the way to you SheltieLover Jun 5 #8
Positive thoughts coming your way DFW that this livetohike Jun 5 #9
Wishing you well, DFW. gademocrat7 Jun 5 #10
With you. cachukis Jun 5 #11
Hang in there. We'll be thinking about you and Ilsa Jun 5 #12
positive thoughts to you markie Jun 5 #13
Best wishes to you, DFW. LuckyCharms Jun 5 #14
Wishing you... 2naSalit Jun 5 #15
Oh mate, I wish you the best róisín_dubh Jun 5 #16
All the best hopes DFW irisblue Jun 5 #17
Your health matters. bottomofthehill Jun 5 #18
My best to you. Hope22 Jun 5 #19
Sending you good wishes. Hope all goes well. Lonestarblue Jun 5 #20
Well, crap !!!! Hope the condition can be controlled..... Karadeniz Jun 5 #21
Yup. Cardio trouble is annoying ThreeNoSeep Jun 5 #22
All the best to you DFW mountain grammy Jun 5 #23
Thanks for the heads-up, DFW! nuxvomica Jun 5 #24
Sending healing vibes your way! Klondike Kat Jun 5 #25
Sending healing vibes Marthe48 Jun 5 #26
Wishing you all the best, DFW! Diamond_Dog Jun 5 #27
cashews ? Tetrachloride Jun 5 #28
Holding you and your wife in light and love. Vibes for easy, niyad Jun 5 #29
Precisely! fierywoman Jun 5 #45
All the best to you sir! rubbersole Jun 5 #30
I wish you every good result possible DFW JMCKUSICK Jun 5 #31
Healing vibes and prayers for you, DFW! I'm sorry you need more treatment because of the extra heartbeats, highplainsdem Jun 5 #32
As I'm involved in heart disease concerns of my own, it strikes me that the tech is rather amazing. NNadir Jun 5 #33
Best wishes on your procedure and recovery DFW! Hey Joe Jun 5 #34
You're a fighter so I expect nothing more than success with the procedure and full recovery! Fla Dem Jun 5 #35
Smart move Dear_Prudence Jun 5 #36
DFW, much love and prayers going out for your speedy recovery FakeNoose Jun 5 #37
Positive vibes!! -nt CrispyQ Jun 5 #38
We are sending our most heart-felt well wishes that the procedure is a success. Big hugs for alwaysinasnit Jun 5 #39
Good luck! Hope to hear back soon. Never ignore the "check engine" light, except on your car. Duct tape fixes that. surfered Jun 5 #40
The cardiologist suspected that something stronger than duct tape would probably be needed in my case DFW Jun 7 #66
Good luck. question everything Jun 5 #41
Good luck! Kid Berwyn Jun 5 #42
Germany has a great healthcare reputation BaronChocula Jun 5 #43
Not always deserved! DFW Jun 5 #47
Glad to hear you have confidence in them BaronChocula Jun 5 #49
Not compared to the States DFW Jun 6 #56
I hope you get in soon BaronChocula Jun 6 #59
Thanks! So do I. DFW Jun 7 #62
Sounds like you have a full dance card BaronChocula Jun 7 #63
It is, very perceptive of you DFW Jun 7 #64
That's a jaw-dropper BaronChocula Jun 7 #71
I have relatively low blood pressure DFW Jun 7 #73
Good luck Figarosmom Jun 5 #44
Wishing you all the best for a great outcome! biophile Jun 5 #46
Good call. mahina Jun 5 #48
Healing light to one our brightest lights. Boomerproud Jun 5 #50
I hope everything goes well and your doctors are able to fix this. I am glad you LoisB Jun 5 #51
That is something I have NEVER done. DFW Jun 7 #67
Yes! LoisB Jun 7 #70
Wishing for you the best Old-8643 Jun 5 #52
Best of luck DFW! LNM Jun 5 #53
Best of luck to you, DFW. red dog 1 Jun 5 #54
Wishing you luck 🤞🍀 MustLoveBeagles Jun 5 #55
I hope we hear from you again very soon! liberalla Jun 6 #57
Beterschap! Laurelin Jun 6 #58
Inderdaad! DFW Jun 6 #60
All my very best vibes from me and Lionel! May all go well and you return to us! CaliforniaPeggy Jun 7 #61
Nor am I!!!!! DFW Jun 7 #68
My deepest and humblest gratitude to all who responded DFW Jun 7 #69
This is of interest to me in two ways. Iggo Jun 7 #72
Sending good vibes your way. Hurry back! You'll be missed. Totally Tunsie Jun 8 #74
Yikes! Here's to safe & successful surgey!! electric_blue68 Jun 8 #75

hlthe2b

(115,217 posts)
1. I do follow the medical literature--including European journals and so my assessment of
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 06:28 AM
Jun 5

German cardiology programs and cardiologists in general is that they are impressive (likewise many of their orthopedists, but that is an aside)...

So, I feel great confidence--as do you-- in the care you have and will receive. Catching it at this stage based on cautious screening of a continuous EKG monitoring, is optimal.

So, I wish you the best and all the healing thoughts and wishes possible. We will be waiting to hear back from you, but now must be YOU time, so concentrate on yourself. Be well and return to "tell the tale."




livetohike

(24,509 posts)
9. Positive thoughts coming your way DFW that this
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 07:22 AM
Jun 5

issue is easily treated and you can get back to your normal activities worry free .

Ilsa

(64,765 posts)
12. Hang in there. We'll be thinking about you and
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 07:25 AM
Jun 5

hoping for a good outcome if you need to be away for a spell.

róisín_dubh

(12,404 posts)
16. Oh mate, I wish you the best
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 07:48 AM
Jun 5

Good luck with the procedure and wishing you a quick recovery, from your friend from across the North Sea in England!

bottomofthehill

(9,455 posts)
18. Your health matters.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 07:58 AM
Jun 5

Get this taken care of so you can get to cape cod and recover! Please take care of yourself. Modern medicine is amazing.

Best wishes for a quick recovery from a successful procedure!

ThreeNoSeep

(333 posts)
22. Yup. Cardio trouble is annoying
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 08:23 AM
Jun 5

The heart bugaboo has only buzzed me once, so far. Empathy and sympathy, DFW.

niyad

(135,395 posts)
29. Holding you and your wife in light and love. Vibes for easy,
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 08:58 AM
Jun 5

successful procedure (s), and swift and complete recovery and healing. Then get your butt back here as quickly as you can!

highplainsdem

(63,745 posts)
32. Healing vibes and prayers for you, DFW! I'm sorry you need more treatment because of the extra heartbeats,
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 09:24 AM
Jun 5

but cardiac care is so amazing now, and it sounds like you have a great cardiologist there. I'm hoping you'll need only a minimal procedure, with a quick, easy recovery that will seem more like a mini-vacation from your incredibly busy schedule.

Sending hugs for you and your wife.

NNadir

(38,878 posts)
33. As I'm involved in heart disease concerns of my own, it strikes me that the tech is rather amazing.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 09:31 AM
Jun 5

I do hope your outcome is excellent as a function of this tech, giving the literal translation of Gesundheit.

In my own case, I'm frankly shocked at procedures available.

Be well.

Fla Dem

(27,865 posts)
35. You're a fighter so I expect nothing more than success with the procedure and full recovery!
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 11:01 AM
Jun 5

You're a good person DFW and we have you and your family in our thoughts. Peace.

FakeNoose

(43,090 posts)
37. DFW, much love and prayers going out for your speedy recovery
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 11:53 AM
Jun 5

Thanks for letting us know! I do look forward to reading your DU posts, so it's reassuring to know the reason why you might be offline for awhile. Take the time to get healthy, and enjoy your month of June.

We'll be thinking of you and waiting to hear of your return.



alwaysinasnit

(5,677 posts)
39. We are sending our most heart-felt well wishes that the procedure is a success. Big hugs for
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 01:03 PM
Jun 5

you and your family.

surfered

(15,128 posts)
40. Good luck! Hope to hear back soon. Never ignore the "check engine" light, except on your car. Duct tape fixes that.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 01:25 PM
Jun 5

DFW

(60,840 posts)
66. The cardiologist suspected that something stronger than duct tape would probably be needed in my case
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 06:42 AM
Jun 7

But you're right about the "check engine" light. I ALWAYS pay attention to the "check engine" light. It is being monitored!

DFW

(60,840 posts)
47. Not always deserved!
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 03:20 PM
Jun 5

But in this case I’m fairly confident. It’s the same combination of teams (new players) as the one that saved my life 22 years ago (I like that), and I’m paying cash upon getting the bill (they like that).

So, when the call comes, and there’s a slot for me, I’ll be there.

DFW

(60,840 posts)
56. Not compared to the States
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 12:37 AM
Jun 6

Last time I was confronted with this, it was 2011. Similar procedures, similar lengths of stay, and the bill for the German hospital was about $12000, where the Dallas bill was originally $36000, but reduced tp $26000 because it was billed to an insurance company instead of to an individual. I had to pay 10% plus the anesthetist. The German bill was way cheaper, but American insurers won’t pay for treatment outside of the country—at least mine didn’t. My official German residence didn’t start until late that year, anyway. Since my yearly premium if I had taken out German health insurance would have been around $35,000 (I asked), I’m better off just paying my bills outright. In the fifteen years since I moved my legal residence here, I don’t think my medical expenses have been a total of $35000 in that whole time, even if I include this upcoming hospitalization, which they will, I hope, schedule before I drop dead of heart failure.

DFW

(60,840 posts)
62. Thanks! So do I.
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 03:08 AM
Jun 7

I was hoping the call would come last week, but it didn´t.

I have to be in France tomorrow and Belgium the day after, and was hoping that maybe my cardiologist had the pull to get me in on Wednesday, but no such luck. That would have been too perfect.............

DFW

(60,840 posts)
64. It is, very perceptive of you
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 05:15 AM
Jun 7

Last edited Sun Jun 7, 2026, 05:50 AM - Edit history (1)

The alternative, especially not having a recording studio in the house, would be vegetating all day in front of a TV/video player, or on the phone. A fast track to my own funeral, in all likelihood, and Mother Nature has been doing her level best to accelerate that for over 2 decades now. I rant in rage at the inefficiencies of European public transportation (including trains and planes), but still, being in a different country every day for work beats sitting at home every day in retirement. Even my CEO, the guy who donated the $20+ million for that park in Dallas, and certainly has enough money to retire (he could probably cash in another $200 million after taxes if he and his partner sell the company), told me, "if I stop working, WTF else am I gonna do?" He will be 74 this fall, and is in excellent health.

If I can´t get a date this coming week, the daughter of DUer blm is stopping by for a 4 day visit starting next Sunday, so I won´t be free then, either. My wife and I promised her a visit to a few local sites, so I will be taking a few days off for her, weather permitting. The Neander Valley Museum is a 20 minute drive from our house. It also has a stop on a local commuter train line, but the line doesn´t run through our town:


The museum even has its own special receptionist:


He doesn´t talk much, but gets his point across nonetheless.

**edit--Germany has a complicated health insurance system, but it basically boils down to First Class, maybe 10% of the country, and Second Class, the rest, except for the completely uninsured. "First Class" is called "Privat," which means you get an expensive private insurance company that reimburses you after you pay up front. From what I hear, it usually works out, unless it´s elective, which gets decided (by them, of course) if they will pay it or not. Second Class, which, for example, is what my wife has, like most Germans, means that you´re covered, but they take you when they can and feel like it. If I had had that, I would have been dead in 2004. Here is what happened:

My wife and I took a long weekend in Italy, where I never go for work, and she had never been. I speak Italian, so she didn´t feel at a disadvantage because she didn't speak any Italian. But going up steep hills, I started get short of breath and felt twinges in my shoulder. I knew this to be a danger sign for heart trouble. Both my dad´s parents had died of heart attacks before they were 70, so I had read up on symptoms.

We flew back to Germany on a Saturday, and on Monday, I looked for a cardiologist in our town. There were five or so, so I picked one because it was on a street I knew. I called and asked for an appointment. They said they had an opening in two months. Feeling that my situation might be more imminent, and knowing the German health care insurance system, I then explained that I was from the USA, was passing through "visiting," and would pay cash. Oh, well in that case!! Could I stop by at 5:15 that afternoon? I said yes, and I did.

The cardiologist did an EKG, and said there was definitely something there. He said to come back on Wednesday for a stress-echo test. I did. Halfway through, he said OK, stop, in my office, please. He said he was calling up to the cardiac clinic in Essen (half an hour away by car). He said go home, pack a bag, and have your wife drive you up there. I said I was free in a couple of days. He said, no, you´re not. Go there. NOW. Like immediately. I´ll make sure you´re expected. I asked if it looked THAT bad, and he said it´s not a risk I could afford to take.

So I did as he asked, and my wife drove me to the clinic. They were waiting with a wheelchair. I said they were being dramatic, and I could walk and carry my own suitcase. They said, no, we can´t risk it, get in the wheelchair. I did. The next morning, the big professor came in, looked at my chart, and said clear my schedule, this guy comes on at noon. I was taken down to the OR, and, to spare you the gory details, after putting in the stents, the doc said, OK, NOW I can tell you, you will be alright, but another day, and you might not have survived. He played back the tape of the procedure, and I had two coronary arteries 99% blocked. Then he said the only thing in English I ever heard him say: "Just in time."

The next morning, my wife was called in, and told "the new rules." No red meat, no more cooking with butter, no red wine (I never did anyway), and no eggs (that was later modified to "not too many" ). I was told my new medication schedule, and ordered not to deviate or treat it lightly. I had seen the images of my 99% blocked arteries. He didn't have to tell me twice. My cardiologist of then has since retired, but this is his younger partner, whom he recommended. If he is not panicked, then nor am I. If he DOES start to panic, then I will, too.

BaronChocula

(4,990 posts)
71. That's a jaw-dropper
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 02:59 PM
Jun 7

99% blockage.
My father may have been done in by his congestive heart failure, and the cause may have been amyloidosis which my late aunt, his sister was diagnosed with.

DFW

(60,840 posts)
73. I have relatively low blood pressure
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 04:05 PM
Jun 7

I didn’t experience the warning chest pains that patients with arterial blockage usually do.

biophile

(1,692 posts)
46. Wishing you all the best for a great outcome!
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 02:46 PM
Jun 5

Take care and hope to have you posting here again soon and for a very long time!

LoisB

(13,771 posts)
51. I hope everything goes well and your doctors are able to fix this. I am glad you
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 06:33 PM
Jun 5

are not farting around about your health.

DFW

(60,840 posts)
67. That is something I have NEVER done.
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 06:46 AM
Jun 7

It has been a macho thing with many men I have known. Not all have survived that attitude.

You don't get a second chance with serious heart issues. I don't intend to fart around.

LNM

(1,273 posts)
53. Best of luck DFW!
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 08:16 PM
Jun 5

You’re right to have it taken care of now. So many of us don’t and then suffer the consequences. It makes me upset with my friends.

liberalla

(11,300 posts)
57. I hope we hear from you again very soon!
Sat Jun 6, 2026, 01:21 AM
Jun 6

I wish you well! With a speedy recovery and a successful result!

CaliforniaPeggy

(157,266 posts)
61. All my very best vibes from me and Lionel! May all go well and you return to us!
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 12:25 AM
Jun 7

We are nowhere near ready to have you vanish!

DFW

(60,840 posts)
68. Nor am I!!!!!
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 06:49 AM
Jun 7

And Mrs. DFW has the same attitude. You and Lionel are two of the VERY few DUers who have ever met her, so you know from first-hand experience what I am talking about when I say that I will do anything the doctors recommend to make it possible for us to have another 20+ years together.

DFW

(60,840 posts)
69. My deepest and humblest gratitude to all who responded
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 07:02 AM
Jun 7

As well as to those who were thinking about it!

I am not sure I merit that kind of out pouring. The situation is such that despite the local cardiologist's efforts so far, I have not yet been given a date for the cardiac clinic in Essen. This is frustrating, but it's not my place to tell them their schedule. I just keep hoping they'll call, and soon. According to the local cardiologist, I should not expect to keel over due to heart failure in the immediate future, but nor should I let this drag on, either. I did want to let the board know, in case of a worst case scenario. I don't plan on it, I don't hope for it, but just in case Mother Nature overrules me, and all. She didn't get her way 22 years ago, and as the TV ad of 50 years ago reminded everyone, "it's not nice to fool Mother Nature."




Iggo

(50,135 posts)
72. This is of interest to me in two ways.
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 03:25 PM
Jun 7

1. I’m also a cardiac patient.
2. You’re one of us.

So don’t worry about posting this stuff. That’s what we’re here for.

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